Zetterberg denies report of rejecting 10yr, $75 million deal.

[Ms_Hockey 0]

I sometimes think he tries to do too much... maybe make an extra pass rather then shoot or vice versa, tries to fight through too many players... but he's really giving a hard effort. Watch him back check too. He really isn't the flashiest player but I really think he's digging in each and every game. IMHO, he seems like he is made for this team.

To me is sounds like the OP was started on rumour and has yet to be validated. However, if there is any truth too it, I think Zets is home grown and should be priority BUT if he wants too more then what we can give in order to keep competitive then I would LOVE Hossa to become a permanent fixture.

I agree also with you that to each his own. I just will encourage you to focus on hossa for a game or two and watch him closely without being tugged by what other say.... even if its your Dad. If you watch a game with me and listen to what I say you will soon discover that Samuelsson is the anti-christ's abandoned son, while others on LGW love him!

I have noticed he tries to do too much sometimes, although I never held that against him. I put it down to being with a new team and having to show himself all over again. We already knew what he was capable of watching him with the Pens - but it's different with every team. You have to find your niche. So yes - he does try to do too much sometimes.. but I don't blame him for it.

I agree with you.. Zetterberg should be given preference. But if he wants to break the bank, he can break someone else's.

I will watch tonight's game and look for POSITIVE Hossa things.

P.S. - You don't like Sammy?!?! You must explain.

[Ms_Hockey 0]

Yeah along with that terrible rumor that Hossa does not hustle.

Personal opinion. Give it up.

[RockyMountainWingGal 108]

10 years of job security? An obviously front loaded contract that brings in very big bucks that can be invested right from the get go? One of the biggest contracts in the league coming up on an offseason that's likely going to see a falling cap? And he doesn't take it?

There's no way. I smell BS from this 'blog'. No sources = fail. Rumor mill fodder.

Exactly all the reasons this is BS. When is the last time Kenny or the Wings handed out a 10 year contract? I cannot think of any.

While it is interesting to discuss all our off season signings and predicaments - it's only halfway through the season. I'll get more concerned when it's closer to the POs (about Hank at least) and when I see this in print somewhere...

[rage 24]

Yeah....this blogger. People (not you) really need to stop jumping to conclusions. My guess is if this offer was put on the table, Z would've inked it in a heartbeat.

Agreed.

But this thread is once again evidence that you don't really need reputable sources to get people to take it as "fact" and get all riled up.

Now I am sorry I even posted this.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Now I am sorry I even posted this.

No need to be sorry for posting something like this. The thing is, there are so many people on LGW that are so quick to jump to conclusions they don't even take a second to see if what they're stating is relevant. As far as I'm concerned, its also the OP's job to make sure they post as much relevant information *as needed* in order to make sure their thread goes in the right direction.

[#19=Legend 29]

I have noticed he tries to do too much sometimes, although I never held that against him. I put it down to being with a new team and having to show himself all over again. We already knew what he was capable of watching him with the Pens - but it's different with every team. You have to find your niche. So yes - he does try to do too much sometimes.. but I don't blame him for it.

I agree with you.. Zetterberg should be given preference. But if he wants to break the bank, he can break someone else's.

I will watch tonight's game and look for POSITIVE Hossa things.

P.S. - You don't like Sammy?!?! You must explain.

This part HAS to be a joke.

if it is then good one

if its not, then hell has frozen over. someone critisizing the things hossa does. but asking how someone dosent like sammy.... nevermind its a joke. i know it is.

PS i like sammy, im not bashing him. hes done good this year.

[ben_usmc 253]

Apples to oranges. Contracts signed at completely different times under completely different salary caps.

Keep in mind the salary cap is going to go down also. In Detroit we've been lucky enough to have Capt.s that have left money on the table in order to keep the team competitive. Now maybe times are starting to change but if Z isn't willing to take one for the team and he's the future C then screw him. Also for those that say Hossa would be asking for the same, the difference is Hossa doesn't have loyalty to us + he left money on the table already. If Z makes anything more then 7.2 I think it will be a mistake; regardless though the blog is probably buls***.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Keep in mind the salary cap is going to go down also. In Detroit we've been lucky enough to have Capt.s that have left money on the table in order to keep the team competitive. Now maybe times are starting to change but if Z isn't willing to take one for the team and he's the future C then screw him. Also for those that say Hossa would be asking for the same, the difference is Hossa doesn't have loyalty to us + he left money on the table already. If Z makes anything more then 7.2 I think it will be a mistake; regardless though the blog is probably buls***.

I most certainly never let the fact that the salary cap is going to go down out of my mind. I understand that must be taken into consideration, but the situation is still apples to oranges given that the cap may fall to $55 million as opposed to Dats signing when it was *at the time* $44. I agree that Z should take a fair discount and replace it with length, but he's also due a sizable raise. Once again, the contracts between Datsyuk and Z are only loosely related, not directly like some people claim.

What gets me is that more than a couple people in this thread have made comments like yours stating "screw Z if he doesn't take $6.7 (or $7 or your suggestion $7.2)" without even the slightest shred of evidence that Z is playing hardball and rejected a contract offer. This is some blogger who probably had nothing but fluff to begin with and people are already jumping on Z for being greedy.

[40#1Fan 0]

Red Wings' Henrik Zetterberg denies report that he has turned down 10-year, $75 million contract offer

by Ansar Khan

Thursday January 15, 2009, 3:27 PM

Red Wings center Henrik Zetterberg denied a report by CBC's Elliotte Friedman claiming that he has turned down a 10-year, $75 million contract offer from the club.

"No, it's not (accurate). Usually I don't want to comment on that but that's not true,'' Zetterberg said Thursday. "I haven't turned down an offer of $75 million.''

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...terberg_de.html

[Shaman 713]

someone beat me to the Mlive article

Edited January 15, 2009 by Shaman464

[DatsMyWings13 4]

I most certainly never let the fact that the salary cap is going to go down out of my mind. I understand that must be taken into consideration, but the situation is still apples to oranges given that the cap may fall to $55 million as opposed to Dats signing when it was *at the time* $44. I agree that Z should take a fair discount and replace it with length, but he's also due a sizable raise. Once again, the contracts between Datsyuk and Z are only loosely related, not directly like some people claim.

What gets me is that more than a couple people in this thread have made comments like yours stating "screw Z if he doesn't take $6.7 (or $7 or your suggestion $7.2)" without even the slightest shred of evidence that Z is playing hardball and rejected a contract offer. This is some blogger who probably had nothing but fluff to begin with and people are already jumping on Z for being greedy.

Yes and we are all talking in a hypothetical sense. Most people have said if, if being the key word. It's good for debates.

[DatsMyWings13 4]

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...terberg_de.html

Good stuff, thanks for posting.

[ben_usmc 253]

I most certainly never let the fact that the salary cap is going to go down out of my mind. I understand that must be taken into consideration, but the situation is still apples to oranges given that the cap may fall to $55 million as opposed to Dats signing when it was *at the time* $44. I agree that Z should take a fair discount and replace it with length, but he's also due a sizable raise. Once again, the contracts between Datsyuk and Z are only loosely related, not directly like some people claim.

What gets me is that more than a couple people in this thread have made comments like yours stating "screw Z if he doesn't take $6.7 (or $7 or your suggestion $7.2)" without even the slightest shred of evidence that Z is playing hardball and rejected a contract offer. This is some blogger who probably had nothing but fluff to begin with and people are already jumping on Z for being greedy.

There doesn't need to be evidence, it's a statement that if he is asking for that much regardless to playing hardball or not let him walk. It really has nothing to do with the article as much as it does the players worth to me on the team. Just like screw the Mule if he asks for 6 million, doesn't mean he is, but if he does let him walk. I like Z a lot but I like the team much more. He is an entreupenur anyway and marrying a loaded chick so he has plenty of money. As someone who pointed out; he may look like a hobo with the beard. He still isn't playing for sandwichs. Although I'm going to turn that into a sign Z plays for sandwichs

Edited January 15, 2009 by ben_usmc

[DyingAlive 27]

It's funny how rumors hit the internet and they are spread like wild-fire

Here's to hoping we keep Zetterberg!

[Electrophile 3,554]

Red Wings' Henrik Zetterberg denies report that he has turned down 10-year, $75 million contract offer

by Ansar Khan

Thursday January 15, 2009, 3:27 PM

Red Wings center Henrik Zetterberg denied a report by CBC's Elliotte Friedman claiming that he has turned down a 10-year, $75 million contract offer from the club.

"No, it's not (accurate). Usually I don't want to comment on that but that's not true,'' Zetterberg said Thursday. "I haven't turned down an offer of $75 million.''

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...terberg_de.html

Excellent. So that's what, 5 pages of overreacting, ranting and what-if posturing?

[VM1138 1,921]

It's funny how everyone was all in love with Z, and now they want him to walk.

I agree, though, that that contract is too much for the team to afford. That is most unfortunate, because Zetterberg has led peopel to believe he wanted to play here for his entire career, and you'd think he could be willing to take a discount.

The source seems wrong, why would a player demand more than a player of his caliber is worth when he's not even having a record season?

[Datsyerberger 279]

As I figured, article = bulls***.

[DatsMyWings13 4]

Excellent. So that's what, 5 pages of overreacting, ranting and what-if posturing?

Really it was just fans discussing his worth. If you want to look at it as overreacting that's your choice.

[Grim 5]

ho hum.. what if in the end it took a $81.95M deal over eleven years? or perhaps $82.8M over twelve would that make everyone happy?? we're squabble over a few apples here. I'd be extremely estatic if it actually took these kinds of figures to keep Z long-term.

[chrisdetroit 189]

** If ** true, then its bye-bye Hank, hello Hossa and Mule.

The only thing I can think is that he/his agent wants more base salary and a shorter term. Maybe only one year and try and cash in on the $7.5M Lidstrom's retirement will free up.

Or maybe they think he deserves more than Lidstrom because he's been so underpaid the last few years?

Either way, I don't like giving a guy with back-problems a 10 year deal.

I think that neither Hank nor Hossa are going to sign for anything less than $8 mil / year. It's what the market will bear and if Sundin is worth more than $8 mil, certainly Hossa or Z are worth that.

How much you think Kevin Lowe would offer either to come to Edmonton? Or our friend Burke in Toronto?

We are not going to get either of these guys for less than 7.5.

[seeinred 1,488]

How convenient that this was buried in the middle of his blog when it (if it was confirmed) should be front page news. I don't buy this one bit.

This

Looks like I'm a few minutes after the confirmation from Ansar Khan though.

Edited January 15, 2009 by SeeinRed

[Ms_Hockey 0]

This part HAS to be a joke.

if it is then good one

if its not, then hell has frozen over. someone critisizing the things hossa does. but asking how someone dosent like sammy.... nevermind its a joke. i know it is.

PS i like sammy, im not bashing him. hes done good this year.

It was sarcasm.. so yes, pretty much a joke.

Sammy isn't as good of a player as Hossa is, though he is having a really good run this year. I've never been a big Sammuelson fan.. but he's having a good season (so far).

[esteef 2,679]

Now I am sorry I even posted this.

Are you kidding? This is the most fun some people here will have all day!

esteef

[dat's sick 1,002]

Not surprised it turned out to be false.

Everything about Zetterberg tells me that he is a guy who would rather take a paycut (or in this case a smaller pay-increase) in order to help the team than play hard-ball to get as much money as possible.

Still, Hank has been the biggest bargain in the league the last two or three years and the money he's gotten is almost a joke if you look at how much better he's been than guys with twice his paycheck. The dude deserves a lot of money, but I don't think he would decline an offer like that.

He'll probably take about what Datsyuk is making if it means they'll be able to keep Franzen and Huds.

[Broken 16 381]

My God... please don't give this man a 10 year contract.

I'm not dumping on Z. I think he is an outstanding player, but the more I watch this season unfold, the more it seems like Z depended on Datsyuk a little more than I originally thought. This is not to say that Z isn't a great player. But it looks more and more as if Z needs Datsyuk alot more than Datsyuk needs Z.