Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 The way you worded this post makes it one of the most idiotic posts I've read in my time on this forum. There isn't a single player in the NHL who doesn't make mistakes. If you're looking for mistakes, you're going to get them, from ANYBODY. Does that make the player in question any less of a skilled player? No, it does not. Watch Zetterberg tonight, and pick out all the little mistakes he mistakes. Try watching Hossa, but only recognizing all the good things he does with and without the puck. I love both players, but hockey is a two-way street, and if your dad is only watching to criticize tiny mistakes, your dad is an idiot. If all you're going to do is bash my family and myself for not thinking Hossa is worth all the money people are throwing at him, then there's really no point in responding to my posts. I'm not a child. And frankly, I don't have time for online fights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) How convenient that this was buried in the middle of his blog when it (if it was confirmed) should be front page news. I don't buy this one bit. Agreed. But this thread is once again evidence that you don't really need reputable sources to get people to take it as "fact" and get all riled up. Edited January 15, 2009 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 I think Z should make more than Lidstrom, but that's just me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Secret 304 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 Last night may have been the exception, but most games Hossa doesn't really hustle. At all. He's not worth anywhere near what people are shouting that he is. Man, I must be watching a completely different Marian Hossa on a totally different team. That guy busts his nuts every night. Obviously some nights work out better then others but him not hustling is completely not true. If I am not mistaken he has even been voted the #1 star of several games that his efforts had not produced any points... you don't get that by not hustling I will tell you that. I think he is worth every penny spent on him! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 Man, I must be watching a completely different Marian Hossa on a totally different team. That guy busts his nuts every night. Obviously some nights work out better then others but him not hustling is completely not true. If I am not mistaken he has even been voted the #1 star of several games that his efforts had not produced any points... you don't get that by not hustling I will tell you that. I think he is worth every penny spent on him! Yeah, I tend to be in the minority with my opinions, lol. But hey, to each their own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 10 year deal .. come on now i kno he wants to be a wing for life but s*** ... i hope thats why he rejected it .. cuz of the length n not the amount Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 I think we're all getting worked up over nothing ... at the moment, this is just some guy's unsubstantiated report. And there's not much sense in the "if that's not good enough for Z screw him let's sign Hossa instead" argument because Hossa's almost certainly going to cost more than 7.5 as well ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zata fan 40 6 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 Goes against everything he said he is wanting to do. Not a legitimate source either. I wouldn't waste more time on this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mule 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 If all you're going to do is bash my family and myself for not thinking Hossa is worth all the money people are throwing at him, then there's really no point in responding to my posts. I'm not a child. And frankly, I don't have time for online fights. I said if your father does the things I mentioned, then he is an idiot. If you're telling me I'm right, that's your problem. I'm only going off of the description you provided, which was awful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 This should definitely be moved to the rumor mill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rice 42 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 I don't buy it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 10 years of job security? An obviously front loaded contract that brings in very big bucks that can be invested right from the get go? One of the biggest contracts in the league coming up on an offseason that's likely going to see a falling cap? And he doesn't take it? There's no way. I smell BS from this 'blog'. No sources = fail. Rumor mill fodder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 I love Z as much as the next guy, but he DOES NOT deserve more money than Pavel. Apples to oranges. Contracts signed at completely different times under completely different salary caps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Secret 304 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 Yeah, I tend to be in the minority with my opinions, lol. But hey, to each their own. I sometimes think he tries to do too much... maybe make an extra pass rather then shoot or vice versa, tries to fight through too many players... but he's really giving a hard effort. Watch him back check too. He really isn't the flashiest player but I really think he's digging in each and every game. IMHO, he seems like he is made for this team. To me is sounds like the OP was started on rumour and has yet to be validated. However, if there is any truth too it, I think Zets is home grown and should be priority BUT if he wants too more then what we can give in order to keep competitive then I would LOVE Hossa to become a permanent fixture. I agree also with you that to each his own. I just will encourage you to focus on hossa for a game or two and watch him closely without being tugged by what other say.... even if its your Dad. If you watch a game with me and listen to what I say you will soon discover that Samuelsson is the anti-christ's abandoned son, while others on LGW love him! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yak19 303 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 and Eddie Curry "allegedly" told his limo driver to "come over here and touch it" i dont buy this either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datsyukismyfriend 4 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 i've considered hank indispensable for a while now, but if there's any truth to this report (which i seriously doubt), he can take a hike. no way does he deserve more money than lidstrom, let alone datsyuk. he's a great player, but that contract is over paying. 5 years at 7.4 would still be high for my taste, but it's reasonable. ten years is ridiculous at 7.5. especially since the cap's projected to go down the next few years. plus hank has back problems, and he's in his twenties. no way! maybe his fame's gone to his head. he has the trophy fiancee with the big extremely fakish looking boobs. he has his own clothing line. he likes to pretend he's a model. maybe the shoe fits. the source is completely unsubstantiated, but if it's true hank can take a hike. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 Apparently the sun rises in the west too. Don't shoot the messenger, that's what I heard from someone who pulled it out of his ass. I'm guessing six years - 42 million for Hank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 I question the credibility of this source. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datsyukismyfriend 4 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 I'm guessing six years - 42 million for Hank. that's more like it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 ** If ** true, then its bye-bye Hank, hello Hossa and Mule. The only thing I can think is that he/his agent wants more base salary and a shorter term. Maybe only one year and try and cash in on the $7.5M Lidstrom's retirement will free up. Or maybe they think he deserves more than Lidstrom because he's been so underpaid the last few years? Either way, I don't like giving a guy with back-problems a 10 year deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 This guy has 0 back up from Freep.com or Mlive.com or espn or even Ekland... Im still calling it BS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted January 15, 2009 If it's true, then Z can go, and it doesn't matter if our team keeps Hossa. Not sure, and we'll see how it goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reilly 24 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 Yeah, I don't see him turning that down, and I don't see another team out there offering him a better contract than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) Apples to oranges. Contracts signed at completely different times under completely different salary caps. Exactly. People keep saying this about how Hank shouldn't make more then Pavel, but honestly Dasyuk should even be making more than he does right now. When he signed the contract it was a risk but has turned into one that's paying off. It really isn't a standard by which they'll determine how much less Z should get. As you mentioned, different caps, but also could be different terms, and several other variables. It's not like a couple years ago when Datsyuk re-signed people should have been saying "no way Dats should get paid more than Zetterberg." Edited January 15, 2009 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTU_Huskies963 398 Report post Posted January 15, 2009 This should definitely be moved to the rumor mill. Yeah along with that terrible rumor that Hossa does not hustle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
