cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted March 1, 2009 is this the worst loss in history or there's even worst? This was the third 0-8 in franchise history. Three games have been worse: 0-9: October 25, 1952, road vs. Montreal 0-10: January 15, 1981, road vs. Calgary 0-13: January 2, 1971, road vs. Toronto. But don't worry; everything will be fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted March 1, 2009 Not true. There are sometimes back-to-backs in the playoffs but it is unusual and games 6 and 7 are rarely back to back. In fact I don't remeber there ever was a game 6-7 back-to-back because there is always travel between them. And as far as the Wings I don't remeber them ever playing back-to-back in the playoffs, The DRW have played 23 pairs of games on consecutive days; the last was April 21 & 22, 2007, Conference Quarterfinal vs. Calgary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted March 1, 2009 also say they do play back to back in the playoffs, they will be playing the same team. So both would be tired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted March 1, 2009 Stuart is killing me. Other than that, this stuff doesn't bother me as much as it used to. Fortunately, the Wings are done in Nashville. Both games with them are at the Joe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzersyukstromberg 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2009 That's fair enough. I can respect that. In my defense, I've grown really tired of a lot of the drivel that's associated with the ever-running goalie debates around here and in my opinion, I think people demonstrate their lack of understanding of the big picture when they start harping on the goalies and making outlandish claims. Sometimes I point it out in a more refined manner. Sometimes I just get annoyed by it and write the people off. I did that in this case because I just didn't feel like getting into it because it's just such a tired subject. The same stuff gets rehashed all the time around here and honestly, it's hard for me to value people's opinions when they start making these grand sweeping statements every day as if it's some landmark in original ideas. I don't understand how you can follow hockey for even a short period of time and not recognize that there are always off games that don't follow conventional rules per se and that the goalies can't be blamed for everything. It just blows my mind that people who have taken the time to find a message board for a hockey team don't understand those simple concepts. Sometimes it gets old and I snap out of constructive mode a bit. I'm truly sorry it offended you. Trust me, I understand completely how annoying it is when fans continually harp on the 'tending situation in Detroit. I'm not usually one of them...in fact, I'd consider myself to be on the same page as you in that regard. I mean, I'm not a hockey slappy or a fly-by-night fan by any means...I'm a season ticket holder, I go to every single home game, and never miss a road game, I play hockey 3 days a week even. There's no illusion for me when it comes to understanding the game of hockey. But even fans with the best grasp of the game and the nuances of it sometimes get flustered. That's where I was at last night. Just when I thought the door was opening for us to grab a couple points in the standings on San Jose, bam!, we get what we saw last night. For me, that equals frustration. Like you said, and I completely agree, goalies cannot be blamed for everything, and I don't pretend to do so. Last night was a collectively abominable effort. Forwards had no jump, the defense seemed to be a step behind, and unfortunately, the goalies were subjected to high quality chances, which they weren't able to corral. I totally get where you're coming from. The goalie debate is a hot topic for many, many fans. But I wouldn't write me off...most of what I have to say is very subjective and well thought out. Occasionally, just like anyone, I might look to the stats page or the box score to get 'answers' and that isn't always going to work....ie; last night. Long story short, I respect your opinion, and to be honest I agree with you. But I definitely wouldn't lump myself into that category of fans who don't 'understand'. I appreciate your seeing where I am coming from in regards to the personal remarks. I always try to make sure and keep things very straight forward on here, and never want to offend everyone, because, first, I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings or offend them, and second, because I realize that hockey fans aren't all going to have the same level of knowledge...but we're all hockey fans, and this board is all about sharing opinions and information. Either way, it's water under the bridge now. I apologize for taking such strong exception to your first retort. I definitely overreacted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted March 1, 2009 We can also hope it's a Come-to-Jesus-game for the team. Of course they were tired after the schedule they've played. But with any luck at all it'll also be the 2x4 between the eyes for any and all players who may have become a little complacent or apathetic. Let's hope it's all the embarrassment they need to git 'er goin' again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted March 1, 2009 You're right. This was one game that will definately have Holland's eyes open about acquiring a defenseman. If there was any doubt in his mind about making a movie, it's gone now no doubt. But in the end it was one game. Even though the defensive lapses have been there all year, they've never been this bad so obviously it's an outlier. I don't think it says anything about what'll happen for the rest of the year. It's just damn embarrassing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingedKitten 9 Report post Posted March 1, 2009 Medicine tastes like s***. We had no spoon full of suger either. Remember last year, when we had a bad record against the Central, and a great record against the rest of the NHL? Is it like that this year too? (honest question) It seems like the Wings get up for big games like SJ, CHI, and PIT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
talex 1 Report post Posted March 1, 2009 that is exactly what I was thinking when it was 5-0, we really needed this big time!! I think this game will be the kick in the cods we needed!! I'm just glad it didn't happen in the playoffs. Make no mistake, the Wings will circle the March 29th rematch with Nashville, this time at JLA!! I certainly hope they circle that game because I am going to be there, was at the last Nashville game at the Joe where the Wings smacked them 6-2. I particularly do not like Nashville because I am in Milwaukee and although I root for the Admirals, my main loyalty resides with GR and the wings. I have been concerned all year by the calls to bring up a ton of GR players to make room for this player or that player after watching the Admirals beat the Griffins every time they have played, those who only see our young guys brought up to the wings a couple times a year may not have the same insight or enough to realize that our young guys are no better and in some cases not even close to the other prospects in the AHL and brining up a bunch of Griffins will not solve the Wings D woes. Obviously our players have the raw talent to win the cup (last year is absolute proof), however for whatever reason they are not living up to that standard any longer and we need to seriously look at the D, if the Wings as a team are going to maintain the same type of system where a real solid goalie is not required because of outstanding D, then they need to shake the D up or it will be time to alter this and pick up a more solid goalie, I like both Conks and Ozzie but they are not going to steal a game for you, they play adequate when they have an excellent D in front of them. I have said this before and will say it again... for the most part the Wings are built on offense, a goalie can give up 2 and win 99% of the games because the wings have had a great D in front and you can count on the O getting 3 most of the time, right now that is not the case and there have been way to many close games, they are bordering being like a team in football I remember... the Chargers when they had Dan Fouts, Charlie Joiner and Kellen Winslow they would put up awesome points, but loose 90% of the time because the D stunk so bad... right now (reg season) the wings are sliding by with this system... it will not work in the playoffs, so something does need to be done, whether it be via roster changes or attitude changes I am not going to say and will leave that to all the pro's on here to speculate, but something needs to be done none the less... My 2 cents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tane 17 Report post Posted March 1, 2009 Every Team Gets Absolutely Spanked every now and then. I'm not worried about it in any way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McCartyFanForLife 17 Report post Posted March 1, 2009 I certainly hope they circle that game because I am going to be there, was at the last Nashville game at the Joe where the Wings smacked them 6-2. I particularly do not like Nashville because I am in Milwaukee and although I root for the Admirals, my main loyalty resides with GR and the wings. I have been concerned all year by the calls to bring up a ton of GR players to make room for this player or that player after watching the Admirals beat the Griffins every time they have played, those who only see our young guys brought up to the wings a couple times a year may not have the same insight or enough to realize that our young guys are no better and in some cases not even close to the other prospects in the AHL and brining up a bunch of Griffins will not solve the Wings D woes. Obviously our players have the raw talent to win the cup (last year is absolute proof), however for whatever reason they are not living up to that standard any longer and we need to seriously look at the D, if the Wings as a team are going to maintain the same type of system where a real solid goalie is not required because of outstanding D, then they need to shake the D up or it will be time to alter this and pick up a more solid goalie, I like both Conks and Ozzie but they are not going to steal a game for you, they play adequate when they have an excellent D in front of them. I have said this before and will say it again... for the most part the Wings are built on offense, a goalie can give up 2 and win 99% of the games because the wings have had a great D in front and you can count on the O getting 3 most of the time, right now that is not the case and there have been way to many close games, they are bordering being like a team in football I remember... the Chargers when they had Dan Fouts, Charlie Joiner and Kellen Winslow they would put up awesome points, but loose 90% of the time because the D stunk so bad... right now (reg season) the wings are sliding by with this system... it will not work in the playoffs, so something does need to be done, whether it be via roster changes or attitude changes I am not going to say and will leave that to all the pro's on here to speculate, but something needs to be done none the less... My 2 cents. They should circle it because Nashville will have played the night before against LA so it's basically the exact same situation reversed. Hopefully we can pad our offensive stats that game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted March 1, 2009 I didn't get to see the game. I was in the GDT getting my info from there and from the real time ticker. May I ask something of those of you who did witness it? IIRC, there were 27 shots on goal for the Wings. The ticker only puts up names when it feels like it. I saw a lot of Sammy and Flip, but not much of anyone else. How did the offense look? Were there good chances that just didn't go in or was the offense as big of a part of the problem as the defense? Thoughts? As far as positive things- the GDT was a riot! Edit: forgot a prepositional phrase. Most of the shots did seem to be from Sammy (so you can guess where those shots ended up). Everyone else was absolutely invisible, except for Lilja, Meech who were ******* brutal. The offense was terrible. Only shooting soft from really bad angles and outside. They were at fault, too. No good chances except for the one that their goalie caught INSIDE the net. I actually would say that Conklin and Ozzie did the best they could with what they had to work with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tweekvp 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2009 Many people are calling for new blood on D. I'm just curious if anyone thinks Ericsson will be able to step in and make a difference? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 In an 80+ game season, you're going to have a few retarded clunkers. It happens for pretty much every team. The Wings gave up 9 goals to the Sharks to seasons ago in a regular season game. Didn't seem to affect much as the Wings got all the way to the WCF. The Wings threw up a clunker game in the playoffs in 2002 against St. Louis but won that series in 5 games still and won it all. The Wings are still in the playoffs without difficulty despite this brainpoop of a game. While if they certainly played like they did Saturday they won't go far in the playoffs, usually games like these are few and far between, so nothing to get too antsy about in all likelihood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 Game 6 and game 7 is back to back Luckily we will only need the first 4 games of each round..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 I don't think there is anything to really learn from this game. But now that its a couple days behind us, I'm glad it happened. Its been a relatively lackadaisical season so far, despite the great record. This was a good old fashion we-played-our-worst, they-played-their-best embarrassment. We have a team of super elite players who now hopefully have a decent size chip on their shoulder. Hopefully we get to see some Red Wings playing pretty pissed off... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted March 2, 2009 This was the type of embarrasement the Lions faced on Thanksgiving day... Turned their whole effing season around to boot!!!! its a game nothing more, nothing less Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
