Holmstrom96 347 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 Watch how next year the NHL tries to implement a new rule: "Teams are not allowed to have Hossa for more than 2 seasons until every team has had a fair chance to have him on their team. Penalty: Entire team suspended 82 games plus 25 years in prison." Unless you're Sidney Crosby and participate in the Bettman Prolapse clause. Then you don't get penalized. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted March 23, 2009 (edited) Don't forget that that Zetterberg will get 7.75M for three seasons, 7.5 three seasons etc, its just that the caphit is low, his salary is still huge Edited March 23, 2009 by mindfly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 No real news here. Expect Hudler, Samuelsson, and Filppula to be playing elsewhere next season. Its a shame, but you can't just let talent of Hossa's caliber go. Hopefully our depth in the minors is all its cracked up to be, hard to replace the points lost tho. Tough decisions ahead. Ha! Chances of this happening, 0%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotty99 302 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 Man, I got my money all saved for an away 81 jersey. I just need Kenny to pull the trigger. Go go go, before the playoffs. Same here! Think i might take a home jersey though, still haven't made up my mind. Depends what jersey he is wearing when he scores the OT winner in game 7 of the SCF...ooo i really shouldn't say that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 Ha! Chances of this happening, 0%. Why? There is a chance Flip will be traded. And I hope he will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted March 23, 2009 (edited) Man, I got my money all saved for an away 81 jersey. I just need Kenny to pull the trigger. Go go go, before the playoffs. Just buy the jersey already, why does he have to be signed here, he still played here for one season and has been great, no one will laugh at you if hossa wouldnt be playing here next season and people saw you wear it Edited March 23, 2009 by mindfly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 This is great. I still worry about the Cap going down a ton in 2 years. All these contracts could come back to bite us in the ass. The NHL I think, would love for that to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
softshoes 83 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 Pre cap: OMG the Wings are over paying the best talent to win a cup. Post cap: OMG the Wings are underpaying the best talent to win a cup. My take: f*** them, meaning the league/players association. They can't have it both ways. Over paying for sub standard talent cancels out under paying for superb talent. I don't understand why more players don't have this attitude. Why wouldn't you want to play where you like for less? A $6million contract is just as life altering as a $8million contract. It's not like they're working for chump change here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maltbymaniac 13 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 (edited) Pre cap: OMG the Wings are over paying the best talent to win a cup. Post cap: OMG the Wings are underpaying the best talent to win a cup. My take: f*** them, meaning the league/players association. They can't have it both ways. Over paying for sub standard talent cancels out under paying for superb talent. I don't understand why more players don't have this attitude. Why wouldn't you want to play where you like for less? A $6million contract is just as life altering as a $8million contract. It's not like they're working for chump change here. spot on my man or woman Edited March 23, 2009 by maltbymaniac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinRedWing 172 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 Why? There is a chance Flip will be traded. And I hope he will. Sorry Aussie,I have to agree with R4L here (although he really should forgive & forget the Ruutu hit on Jagr,it's been 3 yrs man! Not to mention it was clean). There is a good chance they'll trade him,that is if someone is willing to take him and his $ 3 million contract. We'll still have Leino. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 Sorry Aussie,I have to agree with R4L here (although he really should forgive & forget the Ruutu hit on Jagr,it's been 3 yrs man! Not to mention it was clean). There is a good chance they'll trade him,that is if someone is willing to take him and his $ 3 million contract. We'll still have Leino. Flip has nothing to do with that, I just think he is not worth 3 million if Wings can keep Hossa and Mule. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antilles328 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 There are really only a few options. You can't have 1 or 2 overpaid superstars who take up 30% of you cap and then split the remaining 70% between the other 23 guys and still expect to win the cup. For the other 23 guys, you get what you pay for. No one is going to be willing to take a hit because the top guys get paid so much. The exception to this rule is the occassional year where your young stars are playing in the final year of their first contract and you have 7 mil/yr talent playing for 2.5/3. Keeping this team together is impossible for more than a year. The Wings, however, have instilled a culture of winning on their team. Every one of the top guys is playing at a discounted rate. Lidstrom, Dats, Z, Hossa, Rafalski, all are taking less money in exchange for winning and being a part of the Wings organization. If everyone is taking less money, do you want to be the guy that demands more? Or do you then realize that if everyone on the team takes an average of 250,000 less money then you can sign an extra 6 mil/year in players for which you can get a Hossa/Dats/Z type difference maker if they are willing to sacrifice for the good of the team. Federov wasn't willing to play that game which is why Federov stopped playing in Detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 Federov wasn't willing to play that game which is why Federov stopped playing in Detroit. wow..just wow. Get some info about Feds before posting things like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 Don't forget that that Zetterberg will get 7.75M for three seasons, 7.5 three seasons etc, its just that the caphit is low, his salary is still huge Which is absolutely irrelevant when you have an owner that would pay half again what he pays now or even more if it weren't for the cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 (edited) Keeping Franzen just to trade flip would be a stupid move, it's never going to happen. Ever. Who is going to center that second line? Helm? Plus, Hossa and Franzen just don't play well on the same line. Neither do Z and Hossa. After ZDH, the best line we can have is Hossa Flip Leino. That line was ripping it up when the were together. Guess who was centering Hossa when he had that 7 goal over 5 game streak? That was flip. Leino was on that line as well. Hossa will sign, Franzen won't, and flip is going to be wearing a wings uniform for the next 4 years, at least. Count on it. Edited March 23, 2009 by Z and D for the C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 Don't forget that that Zetterberg will get 7.75M for three seasons, 7.5 three seasons etc, its just that the caphit is low, his salary is still huge More to the point, Hank will still be bringing in a $6M cap hit when he's getting older and past his prime. That's basically the only downside to the otherwise tremendous deal the two sides worked out. Well worth it and, cap considerations aside (that s*** hurts my head) the same would apply to Hossa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
finalfilppula 2 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 exciting news, to say the least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 I actually wonder of Holland is going to sign anyone else before summer. It seems pretty clear that some guys are going to be gone, and if he starts signing people now it'll be pretty obvious who's not coming back. I realize they are all professionals, but I wonder how it would affect the lockerroom if some of our guys, whoever they might be, know they won't be back next year. Perhaps it would be better to deal with all of that after the playoffs? I'm thinking the same thing. Have everyone trying their best in the playoffs to prove they should be on the team. This whole situation might already be affecting Hudler negatively, he's not been playing great since the all-star break and maybe it has something to do with him becoming increasingly aware that he's unlikely to be a Red Wing next season? The Wings have to win the cup to ease the pain this off-season is going to cause us. We're going to lose good players. The question is only how many. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 I'm really excited to hear that he wants a longterm contract, and was implying that he wants to be a Wing for life. What has me worried is what the economy holds for the future of the nhl. I really don't want to invest 6M+ each into Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Hossa just to have the cap fall by four million three years from now and cripple the Wings. Anyway, I trust Holland, I'm sure he'll have some sort of trump card built into any signings that take place between now and then to protect the organization from a collapsed economy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzermania 156 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 If Hossa gets signed before playoffs, it'll make everyone push themselves even harder in the playoffs because all of the sudden it's possible they are all on the chopping block. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lovin Jiri Fischer 147 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 If Hossa gets signed before playoffs, it'll make everyone push themselves even harder in the playoffs because all of the sudden it's possible they are all on the chopping block. That could happen. Or players would expect to be gone and therefore feel tense in the locker room. I can see it going either way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 That could happen. Or players would expect to be gone and therefore feel tense in the locker room. I can see it going either way.Let's just assume they will be professional and play their hearts out, no matter what the situation! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 Ahhh, it's good to be back after a week in Boston. Missed you guys! Being around those Bruins fans almost killed me. This is great news to come back to. I know it's not final and nothing is for certain yet.. but it certainly gives me warm tingly feelings to know he'd be willing to take less. The real question is how MUCH less? I think Kenny can pull it off - Lord knows he's performed miracles before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XxGoWingsxX 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 (edited) To be honest...and don't get me wrong, I LOVE hossa playing here but, Look at what we'd lose to keep him. With just his salary (possible contract) alone we could keep franzen and Hudler, or right about there anyways. We'd be able to resign leino and still keep sammy who, takes a lot of crap from us fans but in his defense he happens to be in the right place at the right time more often than not and I see only him on a consistent basis willing to stick up for ozzy. I for one am sick and tired of having our goalies run at only for our guys to just cut back away from the net and shy away from it. Sammy on the otherhand always skates right into the scrum no matter who is in there and will get his shoves and jabs in. Personally, Franzen/huds/leino/sammy - greater than hossa. Hossa is great, don't get me wrong but I think having depth on a few lines is better than having that star on one line. ALSO if you look at it...I see franzen with 30 goals, huds with 21? , leino with like 5 and i'm not sure about sammy but to me that number outweighs hossa's 36 goals no matter how you look at it. Edited March 23, 2009 by XxGoWingsxX Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 If you have a chance to have Hossa on your team, and reasonably comfortably in terms of the cap, you pull the trigger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
