Rick Nash destroyed

[Donaldjr2448 43]

I think that both of the hits were ok in my book!! I understand that the NHL has its set of rules, which Mickey Redmond and I do not like! I see nothing wrong with hitting a guy that has his head down and not paying attention, Nash is a great talent, but you still need to play the game with your head up!

Someone else stated what if it were Pavs or Z, well I'll tell ya, Pavs and Z are for one, hard to hit and two, they play with there head up!!

I'm getting a little sick and tired of these teams and players taking exception for getting hit clean! If you don't want to get hit, then go play womens hockey where checking and hitting is against the rules!! Sorry, I guess I'm old school!!

Way to go Oshie!!!

Oh yeah the BJ's announcers SUCK!! Big Time!! and there color guy Danny Gare is a former Redwing!!

Someone mentioned the Boston Announce team, I think his name is Jack Edwards, I think he is decent, but he crossed the line yesterday in the Philly game! Lucic hit a Philly player , that I thought was close to a boarding call, and there was no call, and Jack Edwards started saying, What the Philly fans want a call for a boarding call, HA HA HA HA HA HA, keep whining!! I wish I could find it on youtube, because the call was classic, but not called for, no pun intened!!

Here is the youtube link for the Jack Edwards call:

Hope it works!!

Edited March 30, 2009 by Donaldjr2448

[blues_demitra38 11]

This thread shows that there are 3 types of Red Wings fans that post here:

1. The Pansy: This guy talks a big game but hides behind his rule book when asked to bring it. While the men are hittin' and scrappin' and playing good, clean hockey, The Pansy will not only hide behind his rule book but begin splitting hairs in it. His blind hate for any other team/player/organization besides his own may be the cause behind the Pansy's demeanor but it could simply be a case of nature winning over nurture. The Pansy does not have a girlfriend (because he doesn't "have time for one") and spends obscene amounts of time playing Warcraft. He may know the rule book from cover to cover but it often times doesn't compensate for his lack of self confidence and propensity to get owned by either The Level Headed Guy, The Throwback or both.

2. The Level Headed Guy: This fan sees situations from all angles. Should a call have been made? Maybe, maybe not. The Level Headed guy understands the game of hockey to be universally equivocal. Sometimes you get the breaks and sometimes you don't. Sometimes you get the call, other times it's missed. What's important to the Level Headed Guy is that good, clean hockey is played which means he doesn't sweat the small stuff. He embraces good plays/players/teams from around the league and is a hockey fan first, team fan second.

3. The Throwback: Knock 'em down, drag 'em out, The Throwback is all about Olde Tyme Hockey. Not only does he feel the whistles should be swallowed but believes that physical play is what makes the game of hockey so great. The Throwback can often be found in bars and at the game, most probably dominating The Pansy in all facets of life. The Throwback is, beneath it all, a good-hearted soul who would stick up for his buddies without a thought. He hates the opposing team but, unlike The Pansy, doesn't have a problem giving credit where credit is due.

Seems to me that we got a little too many #1's in this boi. You know who you are.

[ComradeWasabi 109]

This thread shows that there are 3 types of Red Wings fans that post here:

1. The Pansy: This guy talks a big game but hides behind his rule book when asked to bring it. While the men are hittin' and scrappin' and playing good, clean hockey, The Pansy will not only hide behind his rule book but begin splitting hairs in it. His blind hate for any other team/player/organization besides his own may be the cause behind the Pansy's demeanor but it could simply be a case of nature winning over nurture. The Pansy does not have a girlfriend (because he doesn't "have time for one") and spends obscene amounts of time playing Warcraft. He may know the rule book from cover to cover but it often times doesn't compensate for his lack of self confidence and propensity to get owned by either The Level Headed Guy, The Throwback or both.

2. The Level Headed Guy: This fan sees situations from all angles. Should a call have been made? Maybe, maybe not. The Level Headed guy understands the game of hockey to be universally equivocal. Sometimes you get the breaks and sometimes you don't. Sometimes you get the call, other times it's missed. What's important to the Level Headed Guy is that good, clean hockey is played which means he doesn't sweat the small stuff. He embraces good plays/players/teams from around the league and is a hockey fan first, team fan second.

3. The Throwback: Knock 'em down, drag 'em out, The Throwback is all about Olde Tyme Hockey. Not only does he feel the whistles should be swallowed but believes that physical play is what makes the game of hockey so great. The Throwback can often be found in bars and at the game, most probably dominating The Pansy in all facets of life. The Throwback is, beneath it all, a good-hearted soul who would stick up for his buddies without a thought. He hates the opposing team but, unlike The Pansy, doesn't have a problem giving credit where credit is due.

Seems to me that we got a little too many #1's in this boi. You know who you are.

Should I bother to classify Blues fans? Or just lump them all into the "troll" group?

[Cajanek_Spielmacher 47]

Should I bother to classify Blues fans? Or just lump them all into the "troll" group?

We do not need your sarcasm and uncivility. Nor do we anticipate your unbiased classification skills beimg forthcoming. The hits were exciting and depending on perspective, either the greatest thing since sliced bread or the greatest evil the world of Ohio has even seen. I see Oshie, Perron, Berglund, Johnson and Pieterangelo as the best starting lineup in the history of the St. Louis Blues. They remind me of Zetterberg and Datsyuk during their 1st 2 years in Detroit when the media was labeling them as only soft Euro's who could score but little else. I think we can agree that that assessment has been proven obsolete. LET'S GO BLUES!! SEE YOU THURSDAY>>>>>>>>>AND MAYBE THE 1ST ROUND!!

[BuckeyeWingsfan80 209]

I see Oshie, Perron, Berglund, Johnson and Pieterangelo as the best starting lineup in the history of the St. Louis Blues.

I know it's sucked to be a Blues fan for about the past well, forever, but damn has it really been THAT bad?

[HOCKEY MATTERS 167]

I am one of those "Old Tyme Hockey" guys. I am older than dirt. (just ask the LGWr's that have met me at Cheli's) ....................................blah, blah, blah.

I ranted on and on about how folks should treat each other around here, then decided to delete it all. It just doesn't matter. ( i did like the finger painting bit, and the reply to it. lol.) I should not try to post when I'm this tired.

Edited March 31, 2009 by HOCKEY MATTERS

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

If he didnt play for St Lou, I'd love the kid. For right now, I admire the guy, and envy St Louis for finding a great kid like him. Great Hits! F-U Rick Nash!

[ComradeWasabi 109]

We do not need your sarcasm and uncivility. Nor do we anticipate your unbiased classification skills beimg forthcoming.

Obviously not. Don't come into our house, troll us, and then accuse us of being uncivil.

And I wasn't being sarcastic.

Edited March 31, 2009 by ComradeWasabi

[blues_demitra38 11]

Whoa there, Cajanek. I like the young guns as much as you but let's keep things in perspective. Also, the Blues DO NOT want to see Detroit in Round 1. It would be a quick and painless series.

[elriqo28 2]

the blue jackets announcers have got to be the worst around maybe tied with nashviles guys

i live in columbus so unfourtunetly its blacked out on center ice when red wings play the jackets

they are terrible homers tho

they were telling a story and the red wings scored a goal and they didnt even stop to say "red wigns score" they continued the story and ignored the goal

least ken would aknowledge the other teams goal and comment on it

or something

they ***** and whine as much as crosby. both clean hits in my opinion...

[eva unit zero 271]

We do not need your sarcasm and uncivility. Nor do we anticipate your unbiased classification skills beimg forthcoming. The hits were exciting and depending on perspective, either the greatest thing since sliced bread or the greatest evil the world of Ohio has even seen. I see Oshie, Perron, Berglund, Johnson and Pieterangelo as the best starting lineup in the history of the St. Louis Blues. They remind me of Zetterberg and Datsyuk during their 1st 2 years in Detroit when the media was labeling them as only soft Euro's who could score but little else. I think we can agree that that assessment has been proven obsolete. LET'S GO BLUES!! SEE YOU THURSDAY>>>>>>>>>AND MAYBE THE 1ST ROUND!!

And I see any Blues lineup that featured Red Berenson as better.

[eva unit zero 271]

This thread shows that there are 3 types of Red Wings fans that post here:

1. The Pansy: This guy talks a big game but hides behind his rule book when asked to bring it. While the men are hittin' and scrappin' and playing good, clean hockey, The Pansy will not only hide behind his rule book but begin splitting hairs in it. His blind hate for any other team/player/organization besides his own may be the cause behind the Pansy's demeanor but it could simply be a case of nature winning over nurture. The Pansy does not have a girlfriend (because he doesn't "have time for one") and spends obscene amounts of time playing Warcraft. He may know the rule book from cover to cover but it often times doesn't compensate for his lack of self confidence and propensity to get owned by either The Level Headed Guy, The Throwback or both.

2. The Level Headed Guy: This fan sees situations from all angles. Should a call have been made? Maybe, maybe not. The Level Headed guy understands the game of hockey to be universally equivocal. Sometimes you get the breaks and sometimes you don't. Sometimes you get the call, other times it's missed. What's important to the Level Headed Guy is that good, clean hockey is played which means he doesn't sweat the small stuff. He embraces good plays/players/teams from around the league and is a hockey fan first, team fan second.

3. The Throwback: Knock 'em down, drag 'em out, The Throwback is all about Olde Tyme Hockey. Not only does he feel the whistles should be swallowed but believes that physical play is what makes the game of hockey so great. The Throwback can often be found in bars and at the game, most probably dominating The Pansy in all facets of life. The Throwback is, beneath it all, a good-hearted soul who would stick up for his buddies without a thought. He hates the opposing team but, unlike The Pansy, doesn't have a problem giving credit where credit is due.

Seems to me that we got a little too many #1's in this boi. You know who you are.

This post still doesn't mean Oshie didn't charge Nash. Sorry.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

This post still doesn't mean Oshie didn't charge Nash. Sorry.

Score one for brevity.

[Cajanek_Spielmacher 47]

I know it's sucked to be a Blues fan for about the past well, forever, but damn has it really been THAT bad?

This is a peek into the future not as of right now! I am surmising that the potential is there to put Hull and Oates era into the backseat of Blues history. I know the Berenson/Ecclestone/St. Marseille line, the Unger/Plante/Thomson line and the Federko/Sutter/Bourbonnais later Babych line were all important stages of the Blues. I post here very infrequently so, "I resent being lumped in with all the other trolls !" Some of you know that I have popped over on this forum for the last 4-5 years. Wasabi - Who r u? I also want to face Detroit in the 1st round --- Something about 09' being revenge for 96' being revenge for 92' - Our turn this year and then face SJ for 2000 payback. My, it is fun to fantasize!! LOL

[T.Low 1,011]

This thread shows that there are 3 types of Red Wings fans that post here:

1. The Pansy: This guy talks a big game but hides behind his rule book when asked to bring it. While the men are hittin' and scrappin' and playing good, clean hockey, The Pansy will not only hide behind his rule book but begin splitting hairs in it. His blind hate for any other team/player/organization besides his own may be the cause behind the Pansy's demeanor but it could simply be a case of nature winning over nurture. The Pansy does not have a girlfriend (because he doesn't "have time for one") and spends obscene amounts of time playing Warcraft. He may know the rule book from cover to cover but it often times doesn't compensate for his lack of self confidence and propensity to get owned by either The Level Headed Guy, The Throwback or both.

2. The Level Headed Guy: This fan sees situations from all angles. Should a call have been made? Maybe, maybe not. The Level Headed guy understands the game of hockey to be universally equivocal. Sometimes you get the breaks and sometimes you don't. Sometimes you get the call, other times it's missed. What's important to the Level Headed Guy is that good, clean hockey is played which means he doesn't sweat the small stuff. He embraces good plays/players/teams from around the league and is a hockey fan first, team fan second.

3. The Throwback: Knock 'em down, drag 'em out, The Throwback is all about Olde Tyme Hockey. Not only does he feel the whistles should be swallowed but believes that physical play is what makes the game of hockey so great. The Throwback can often be found in bars and at the game, most probably dominating The Pansy in all facets of life. The Throwback is, beneath it all, a good-hearted soul who would stick up for his buddies without a thought. He hates the opposing team but, unlike The Pansy, doesn't have a problem giving credit where credit is due.

Seems to me that we got a little too many #1's in this boi. You know who you are.

What category are you?

LevelHeaded Guy would never say that the hit destroyed someone that got up and scored later in the same game, so obviously not a #3.

All they did was learn that you need to put a lot more than just a good hit on Nash to shut him down.

I was good with both hits. And agree with Good Observation Guy that posted earlier saying that Nash tried to hit Oshie on the second one but was totally off balance and lost on that one too.

And the announcers, holy crap, pathetically accurate example of homerism.

And the Blues haven't been the same since Garth Butcher left.

[cprice12 117]

A charge is defined by "distance traveled". Umm...wa...huh?

What the hell does that mean? Players are traveling all over the ice at every moment of the game.

The rule has to be interpreted as a long distance traveled with the sole intent to lay out a violent hit from the start of the "bee line" to the resulting check.

Oshie was coming out of the box and racing back into the play in the Blues zone, like everyone does when coming out of the box. He was not initially racing to check Nash. He then glided once he got into the zone. Once he saw Nash had the puck in the corner, he strided twice and glided for about 20 ft. again and hit Nash. You can really only count the two strides he took and then his coasting before he hit Nash when deciding if it was a charge...and based on that, it was definitely not a charge.

If Oshie was intent on hitting Nash as soon as he got out of the box (which would be a charging), he wouldn't have stopped skating once he got into the zone...he would have just kept on striding until he got to Nash...and then that could have been considered charging. But the fact he stopped skating and then started again once Nash got the puck, wipes out any charging theory. Besides..."distance traveled" and "violent check" is subjective and fuzzy. How far is too far to skate before it is charging?

And the crosscheck and elbowing comments from the BJ's announcers in the 2nd game is just retarded. That hit is as clean as they come. But hey, they're homer announcers and I am sure they didn't like their captain being put on his ass two games in a row by a much smaller and much lighter player.

[eva unit zero 271]

A charge is defined by "distance traveled". Umm...wa...huh?

What the hell does that mean? Players are traveling all over the ice at every moment of the game.

The rule has to be interpreted as a long distance traveled with the sole intent to lay out a violent hit from the start of the "bee line" to the resulting check.

Oshie was coming out of the box and racing back into the play in the Blues zone, like everyone does when coming out of the box. He was not initially racing to check Nash. He then glided once he got into the zone. Once he saw Nash had the puck in the corner, he strided twice and glided for about 20 ft. again and hit Nash. You can really only count the two strides he took and then his coasting before he hit Nash when deciding if it was a charge...and based on that, it was definitely not a charge.

If Oshie was intent on hitting Nash as soon as he got out of the box (which would be a charging), he wouldn't have stopped skating once he got into the zone...he would have just kept on striding until he got to Nash...and then that could have been considered charging. But the fact he stopped skating and then started again once Nash got the puck, wipes out any charging theory. Besides..."distance traveled" and "violent check" is subjective and fuzzy. How far is too far to skate before it is charging?

He was headed for Nash from the blueline, even before Nash had gotten the puck. His hit on Nash was arguably late. He wasn't headed to join the play in the first place, and he hit Nash after Nash dumped the puck off. That's a CLEAR charge. It would have been a charge had Nash delivered it to Oshie, too.

[Inultus 12]

Someone mentioned the Boston Announce team, I think his name is Jack Edwards, I think he is decent, but he crossed the line yesterday in the Philly game! Lucic hit a Philly player , that I thought was close to a boarding call, and there was no call, and Jack Edwards started saying, What the Philly fans want a call for a boarding call, HA HA HA HA HA HA, keep whining!! I wish I could find it on youtube, because the call was classic, but not called for, no pun intened!!

I kind of like that announcer. At least he tells it like it is, in his homeristic way.

[cprice12 117]

He was headed for Nash from the blueline, even before Nash had gotten the puck. His hit on Nash was arguably late. He wasn't headed to join the play in the first place, and he hit Nash after Nash dumped the puck off. That's a CLEAR charge. It would have been a charge had Nash delivered it to Oshie, too.

No, he wasn't. Are we watching the same video here?

It's clear in the video that Oshie stops striding once he gets to the top of the slot. Maybe, to you, it looked like he was going for Nash the whole time because of how hard he was skating out of the box and he happened to be going in Nash's direction... But that's just how Oshie plays. He skates his ass off when he's on the ice and he was skating hard out of the box to get back into the play and set up in the middle.

Then once Nash is passed the puck, Oshie takes two strides towards him, then coasts for about 20 ft. and hits Nash. It wasn't late. When Nash passed the puck, he did so because he was about to get hit. Oshie was maybe 10-15 ft. from him when he passed it...and then Oshie hit him. It wasn't even a full second after he passed the puck before Oshie hit him. I've seen guys get hit a full 2-3 seconds after they dump the puck in or pass it off and it not get called.

It wasn't charging...it wasn't a late hit...it's just good hockey.

I guess with all of the Europeans on the Red Wings roster, you aren't used to seeing this brand of hockey.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

I guess with all of the Europeans on the Red Wings roster, you aren't used to seeing this brand of hockey.

LOL THOSE SOFT EUROS AMIRITE

[uk_redwing 495]

Ima chargin my lazer nnnnnnnnn gggggggggg boom. Said Oshie.