RedWingAbner 13 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Did you miss the part where he said it was ok to be critical of the player? No, but did you miss the point where I pointed out that I was doing nothing outside of the norm per non-Wings? What happens if Tootoo was traded to the Wings? Would those posts be retroactively removed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Nice to see the Wings winning defensive zone battles behind the goal line. If they've been consciously holding back from the physical play for self-preservation purposes only, then all will be forgiven if they bring that kind of play in the playoffs. Physicality behind the net has been absent all season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrSandMan Report post Posted April 5, 2009 What? I thought Osgood is a proven and capable playoff starting goaltender? Now the fact that he doesn't make as much money as some of the other goalies, we should all lower our expectations? If that's the case, then please, overpay for Luongo et al. He's still being paid millions and is still expected to play like an NHL goaltender. Osgood's numbers aren't even good enough for the ECHL. Funny how you cut out the part about buying a $18,000 Chevy Cavalier and expecting it to be a $55,000 Cadillac. I wish life really worked like that. I'd buy me a Ford Fusion, but it'd really be as good as a Mustang Cobra GT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 I'm not getting into this with you just to start something. But that argument is stupid. It's something the Chinese government would say...."it's ok to criticize the US, but not us." Hell, there were doctored photos of Manny Legace with a noose around his neck when he was waived. You're right. This isn't Let's Go Preds. Let's be a bit more intelligent than them and not filter material just because it is negative about (suspected) favorite players. You may notice a significant amount of negative posting regarding Osgood in this thread. Don't paint it as "censorship" or removal of material "just because it is negative." This isn't Communist China where nobody is allowed to criticize. You had it right earlier: it was the phrasing I didn't like, because it was inappropriate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 5, 2009 I actually thought they were gonna penalize Homer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Wahh Ozzie, wahh enforcers. Cry, cry, *****, moan, complain, whine. At least pull for another team for one season and you'll find yourself surrounded by people who would be happy if their team was in this team's position every season. It's obvious there is no pleasing you unless everything is perfect and flawless. I.e. NOT REALITY. Oh noes look at how great the opposing goaltender's stats are! Oh noes.. look are where their ******* team is in the standings. 10th place. Just what I thought. I could care less about the regular season. And the Wings have a great record in spite of Ozzie, not because of him. BTW, you need some help "internet tough guy". Just because you have Ozzie's face tattooed on your ass doesn't make you a better fan than me. Just more self-righteousness from you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Sammy is really holding onto the puck too long today. He's gotten so much better at that over the past few seasons, but today eerily reminds me of 06/07. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McCartyFanForLife 17 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 wow, refs are definitely swallowing the whistles right now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Wahh Ozzie, wahh enforcers. Cry, cry, *****, moan, complain, whine. At least pull for another team for one season and you'll find yourself surrounded by people who would be happy if their team was in this team's position every season. It's obvious there is no pleasing you unless everything is perfect and flawless. I.e. NOT REALITY. Oh noes look at how great the opposing goaltender's stats are! Oh noes.. look are where their ******* team is in the standings. 10th place. Just what I thought. How many times have we been bounced early in the playoffs yet being very high in the standings? Conclusion, who gives a f*** about the standings? We're worried about the playoffs, not the regular season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EuroTwin 240 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Wow, I'm surprised we didn't get goalie interference for that. Not because I think we should have, but Homer was on the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 It seems like Zetterberg has had to work his ass off for every point hes gotten this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Did you miss the part where he said it was ok to be critical of the player? To be fair, that was an edit after the original. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 If they've been consciously holding back from the physical play for self-preservation purposes only, then all will be forgiven if they bring that kind of play in the playoffs. Physicality behind the net has been absent all season. I was thinking the exact same thing. I can understand laying off for the majority of the season given the fact that their talent has carried them, but that physical play (which they've done well today) will absolutely be necessary after this coming week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Ohhh, it had to be Stuart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McCartyFanForLife 17 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Stuart with the weakest shot ever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTU_Huskies963 398 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 He's starting because coaches don't pay attention to stats in the NHL or ECHL. But since all you can do are look at stats, rather than look at the team losing as a whole, which greatly affects a goalie's "stats" (particularly on this team when they give up so many great opportunities on few shots), it's easy to dismiss you just like last season when all you can do is complain. I am not going to lie and say the defense has been up to par this year. Lets take a gander at the stats 3.18 GAA for Osgood. Everyone says that GAA has to do with the D which I can agree with, then people say the true way to measure a goalie is SV%. This is where ozzy has .884 WHERE OZZY IS DEAD LAST. Manny legace has a higher SV% than ozzy.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingAbner 13 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 You may notice a significant amount of negative posting regarding Osgood in this thread. Don't paint it as "censorship" or removal of material "just because it is negative." This isn't Communist China where nobody is allowed to criticize. You had it right earlier: it was the phrasing I didn't like, because it was inappropriate. This argument is going nowhere. My point is, it's stupid to allow (on the boards and not just the GDT) people to wish/joke about death or permanent injury for players on other teams and then freak out when it's said about one of our players. I'm just pointing out the double-standard. As I said, people in China can and do criticize the US. Where the similarity lies here is that China won't allow for self-criticism in the same manner. What makes it inappropriate to say it about Osgood but fine with Tootoo? Therein lies the hypocrisy. I'm not trying to be a pain in the ass. Just pointing out it's a bit of a foolish double-standard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidMichSteve 1,115 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Lol, Stuart was handcuffed on that play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Pretty stuff from Hudler and Stuart "waffles" on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Seriously, dude, you're quickly becoming the worst poster here with you accusations and constant misquotes. Well past that already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 I wonder if Babs emphasized treating this game like a playoff game. They haven't let up the offense all game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrSandMan Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Wonder if it would make some of the Red Wing's fans happy if Holland could find a way to trade Datsyuk and Ericsson straight across for Backstrom? Maybe that would make posters happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 5, 2009 I could care less about the regular season. And the Wings have a great record in spite of Ozzie, not because of him. BTW, you need some help "internet tough guy". Just because you have Ozzie's face tattooed on your ass doesn't make you a better fan than me. Just more self-righteousness from you. You couldn't care less about the regular season, but you're whining about the Wild goalie being so good, and obviously their goaltending isn't pushing their team into the playoffs, so hard to talk about the playoffs with this MVP goalie in the same sentence isn't it? Brilliant. Maybe you should try just being happy your team is going into the playoffs and bitching when the team falters and loses out in the playoffs because of whatever. I mean, I have a feeling logic is well beyond your scope of wisdom here, but I'm sure you're going to feel rather weird when people actually start bitching if the Wings lose out of the playoffs and rightfully so. Maybe there's a such thing is not being a pissy and whiny malcontent the entire season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EuroTwin 240 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Whooo. Sammy looks angry. I'm not sure if it's hilarious or awesome. Probably Awesomlarious. Or Hilawesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 I wonder if Babs emphasized treating this game like a playoff game. They haven't let up the offense all game. Given the play in the last three, I think he'd settle for treating it like an NHL game at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites