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Sharks TV Color Analyst Drew Remenda posted these comments today:

http://boards.sjsharks.com/index.php?autom...p;blogid=1&

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You know what puzzles me? All this “whoa you don’t want to play St. Louis (or Calgary or Anaheim or insert whatever team) in the first round†talk. What about… You don’t want to play the First place since the start of the year, 53 wins and counting NHL Leading San Jose friggin Sharks. I hope there are teams out there that are thinking yeah we really want to play them. We really want to play a team that has a Superstar centre that can dominate games. A Captain having a career year. A puck moving cool as ice smooth skating D-Man. 4 defenceman with 30+ assists. A goalie that is one of the best in the game a team that has the best second line in hockey-a kick ass powerplay and a stingy penalty kill. Doesn’t that sound like fun? I’d just like the “experts†to recognize the Sharks are like Joe Thornton said†the best team in hockeyâ€.

I agree with his thoughts. It strikes me odd that Wings fans are nervous about a possible match-up with the Ducks.

Thoughts on Remenda's comments...

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Sharks TV Color Analyst Drew Remenda posted these comments today:

http://boards.sjsharks.com/index.php?autom...p;blogid=1&

Portion of his blog:

You know what puzzles me? All this “whoa you don’t want to play St. Louis (or Calgary or Anaheim or insert whatever team) in the first round†talk. What about… You don’t want to play the First place since the start of the year, 53 wins and counting NHL Leading San Jose friggin Sharks. I hope there are teams out there that are thinking yeah we really want to play them. We really want to play a team that has a Superstar centre that can dominate games. A Captain having a career year. A puck moving cool as ice smooth skating D-Man. 4 defenceman with 30+ assists. A goalie that is one of the best in the game a team that has the best second line in hockey-a kick ass powerplay and a stingy penalty kill. Doesn’t that sound like fun? I’d just like the “experts†to recognize the Sharks are like Joe Thornton said†the best team in hockeyâ€.

I agree with his thoughts. It strikes me odd that Wings fans are nervous about a possible match-up with the Ducks.

Thoughts on Remenda's comments...

Big words from a guy who covers a team that has done nothing but get bounced early in the playoffs. Nobody wants to play those 7-8 seeded teams because they are hot and dangerous. They bounce team, just ask the Red Wings.

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All the Sharks talk aside, Remenda was spot on about Maurice and how the Leafs can't even handle a decent coach.

But I also have to agree with this part:

The Avs\Sharks game was televised by Versus so I had the night off. For a period I sat with Assistant Coach Jay Woodcroft. I marveled at his acute sense of the game and the instant feedback he gives to the bench from his video war room. Sitting with Jay reinforced my belief that this staff is a well oiled machine that has all the bases covered going into the postseason.

During the second and most of the third period I stood at ice level. I forgot how fast these guys are. As Jeff Norton used to tell me when I was an Assistant Coach; “its f&^%$in’ easy from up there, Drew.†He’s right. Everything looks easy from up top-I have to get a reality check more often.

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Big words from a guy who covers a team that has done nothing but get bounced early in the playoffs.

I agree. I've been a Sharks fan since day #1.

I do agree with his opinions, I feel the same way. This team has had a great season. But to get up on the stage and preach to the masses these thoughts just put an even BIGGER target on our backs!

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Sharks TV Color Analyst Drew Remenda posted these comments today:

http://boards.sjsharks.com/index.php?autom...p;blogid=1&

Portion of his blog:

You know what puzzles me? All this “whoa you don’t want to play St. Louis (or Calgary or Anaheim or insert whatever team) in the first round†talk. What about… You don’t want to play the First place since the start of the year, 53 wins and counting NHL Leading San Jose friggin Sharks. I hope there are teams out there that are thinking yeah we really want to play them. We really want to play a team that has a Superstar centre that can dominate games. A Captain having a career year. A puck moving cool as ice smooth skating D-Man. 4 defenceman with 30+ assists. A goalie that is one of the best in the game a team that has the best second line in hockey-a kick ass powerplay and a stingy penalty kill. Doesn’t that sound like fun? I’d just like the “experts†to recognize the Sharks are like Joe Thornton said†the best team in hockeyâ€.

I agree with his thoughts. It strikes me odd that Wings fans are nervous about a possible match-up with the Ducks.

Thoughts on Remenda's comments...

I can't speak for everyone but when it comes to a possible match up with the ducks I'm not scared that we'd lose to the ducks but rather the toll of the travel and physical play of the ducks on the Wings for the long run. Plus the Ducks are a dirty team that would be likely to throw in a few parting cheap shots on their way out the door.

On the other hand I would love to see the Ducks play the Sharks so they can beat each other up and wear each other down.

Sometimes getting to the cup is about the path you're given.

Edited by DatsMyWings13

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I can't speak for everyone but when it comes to a possible match up with the ducks I'm not scared that we'd lose to the ducks but rather the toll of the travel and physical play of the ducks on the Wings for the long run. Plus the Ducks are a dirty team that would be likely to throw in a few parting cheap shots on their way out the door.

On the other hand I would love to see the Ducks play the Sharks so they can beat each other up and wear each other down.

Sometimes getting to the cup is about the path you're given.

I think this is one of the common lines of thought on playing the Ducks. I think the Wings can match the physical play, but the Ducks like to take cheap shots. Last thing the Wings need is a player going down because Pronger hacks the hell out of him with a cross-check.

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There's no doubt this Sharks team has all the tools to make a deep run. TBH, there's no excuse not to this season.

Now that being said, the reason some Wings fans (myself included) don't want to play the Ducks is because not only are they playing their best hockey of the season, they reside on the other side of the country. Ideally, I'd like to see the Wings play someone no more than an hour flight away, just as I'm sure the Sharks wouldn't mind playing a team as close as Anaheim.

Just because some don't want the Wings to match up in the first round against the Ducks doesn't mean those same fans don't think the Wings will come out on top. It's about hopefully winning and keeping as much in the tank as possible. 2 months of playoff hockey isn't exactly a picnic...its a grind.

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the "best team in hockey" title is a slippery one. is it the team with the highest potential? i'd say that's us. is it the team that has the best regular season record? that's the sharks. is it the team that's playing the best RIGHT NOW? that's probably the blues or ducks, i'd guess.

i think ultimately, it's the team that wins the stanley cup--though even that can be brought into question, if one was so inclined. like others have said, i don't worry too much about beating the ducks in the first round (though no team should be taken for granted; confer with red wings vs. islanders) but that will definately take something out of us for future rounds. now if we win regardless, you haven't much of an argument, but if we win going through, say, st. louis and chicago to get to the WCFs, you can make that argument.

and even if that is the way to judge the best team, you're only the best team after you've won the cup, and as soon as you start playing again, everything's back to square one--so you never even really play any games as the "best team in the league."

the sharks are probably the most complete team and have played very near their potential all season. the same can't be said of the wings. i personally don't have any problems with the guy's comments. that's his opinion and it's pretty difficult to refute with anything other than our own opinion (second-line debate, for example-- their second line has 177 points, 77 goals and is +39; our second line has 167 points, 87 goals and is +60. you can debate which is better--and those numbers are subjective because the lines haven't been static all season...it's just a matter of opinion that cannot be easily refuted with stats).

edit: that's if you consider our second line as franzen-filppula-hossa with DHZ as the top line, which is not even what the lines have been as of late...i guess those would be our "standard" top two lines, if such a thing exists.

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The Sharks don't get mentioned in that conversation because it is obvious that you don't want to play them. The other teams mentioned are less obvious.

This.

I don't understand how Ramada thinks they're somehow the forgotten underdog in the playoffs that teams are lining up to play. I guess they're getting a little vertigo because they're just not used to being on top.

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Sharks TV Color Analyst Drew Remenda posted these comments today:

http://boards.sjsharks.com/index.php?autom...p;blogid=1&

Portion of his blog:

You know what puzzles me? All this “whoa you don’t want to play St. Louis (or Calgary or Anaheim or insert whatever team) in the first round†talk. What about… You don’t want to play the First place since the start of the year, 53 wins and counting NHL Leading San Jose friggin Sharks. I hope there are teams out there that are thinking yeah we really want to play them. We really want to play a team that has a Superstar centre that can dominate games. A Captain having a career year. A puck moving cool as ice smooth skating D-Man. 4 defenceman with 30+ assists. A goalie that is one of the best in the game a team that has the best second line in hockey-a kick ass powerplay and a stingy penalty kill. Doesn’t that sound like fun? I’d just like the “experts†to recognize the Sharks are like Joe Thornton said†the best team in hockeyâ€.

I agree with his thoughts. It strikes me odd that Wings fans are nervous about a possible match-up with the Ducks.

Thoughts on Remenda's comments...

Interesting. First, I think everyone should be nervous about having to play the Ducks in any round, because if they start playing bad or losing, that means they'll start playing dirty and playing to injure, stomping on people and hitting high and elbowing and what have you. All this isn't helped by the four to five hour flight between LA and Detroit, not to mention the time zone difference.

Second I think that you don't want to get in the mindset that you shouldn't be worried or nervous about meeting up with a specific team in the playoffs. A number one seed can get ousted by a number eight seed that then goes on to Cup Finals (y hello thar Oilers). Especially a team that hasn't made the playoffs before (Columbus) or in a while (St Louis) and want to prove themselves so fiercely.

And thirdly, from the limited perspective of who the Wings do or do not want to play in the playoffs... well, I think that most people from fairly early on, knew that the Wings and the Sharks would most likely end up in the 1/2 positions in the Western Conference. So it wasn't really a matter of not mentioning the Sharks as someone you don't want to play, as really not needing to think about that until you get to the WCF, if both teams make it that far. Playoffs are all about the immediate. Thinking too far in advance, matchup-wise, often comes back to bite you in the ass come playoff time.

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This is a stupid post. Of course nobody wants to play any of the top teams in the league, however the teams that do end up playing #1, 2 or 3 are the teams that are just fighting to get into the playoffs and they for the most part aren't going to complain about who they play.

As far as the best team in hockey. The Sharks are limping to the finish. They have only scored 9 goals total in the last 5 games. Last night they won 1-0 in a shootout against the might Kings. The only goal was a shootout.

They aren't playing well right now so I'm not sure that I would be too confidant if I was one of their fans.

Regular season sucess means nothing. You would think that the Sharks fans would know that better than anyone.

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Now, I finally get to say this!!!!!!!!!! We would be better if we played in the weak Pacific division like the sharks do, we are the only division in all the NHL that has 5 teams that are all competitive and playoff worthy, the Pacific has 2, and the other 3 are fighting for last place. Next, I think anyone would take Detroit's second line that could either be Zetterberg or Hossa plus Franzen on it over the Shark's second line, its almost a no brainer. Will the sharks when the cup? Maybe, but I still like the wing's odds.

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Remenda I must admit, has become more homerish as time goes on. I think this is what he does to either pump himself up, or to stir the pot a little. It's already been touched on...of course teams don't want to play the #1 seed....or the #2 seed. It's so obvious it isn't really worth mentioning. I wouldn't think anyone would want to play the Wings or the Sharks given a choice. Anything less than a Cup is going to be a failure for either of these teams.

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the "best team in hockey" title is a slippery one. is it the team with the highest potential? i'd say that's us. is it the team that has the best regular season record? that's the sharks. is it the team that's playing the best RIGHT NOW? that's probably the blues or ducks, i'd guess.

Hurricanes.

On the orginal topic, whine fest why no one talks about not wanting to face the Sharks....this time of year the experts always talk about what team you wouldn't want to face in the first round of the playoffs. These discussions always come from the perspective of what "6-8 place team" would you not want to face. If you are 1st or 2nd overall in the league, I think it's pretty obvious that no one is going to want to face you, no need to discuss.

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A Captain having a career year.

Their captain is Marleau right? Last time I checked, his career year was a few years ago. Just because he has 3 more goals this year, doesn't make it a career year, he's 16 pts behind his total from 2006.

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Sharks TV Color Analyst Drew Remenda posted these comments today:

http://boards.sjsharks.com/index.php?autom...p;blogid=1&

Portion of his blog:

You know what puzzles me? All this “whoa you don’t want to play St. Louis (or Calgary or Anaheim or insert whatever team) in the first round†talk. What about… You don’t want to play the First place since the start of the year, 53 wins and counting NHL Leading San Jose friggin Sharks. I hope there are teams out there that are thinking yeah we really want to play them. We really want to play a team that has a Superstar centre that can dominate games. A Captain having a career year. A puck moving cool as ice smooth skating D-Man. 4 defenceman with 30+ assists. A goalie that is one of the best in the game a team that has the best second line in hockey-a kick ass powerplay and a stingy penalty kill. Doesn’t that sound like fun? I’d just like the “experts†to recognize the Sharks are like Joe Thornton said†the best team in hockeyâ€.

I agree with his thoughts. It strikes me odd that Wings fans are nervous about a possible match-up with the Ducks.

Thoughts on Remenda's comments...

A bit on the homer side, but his team has certainly staked their claim this season (SO FAR) as one of the best teams/the best team. Can they finally make a deep run when it counts though? We shall see.

In terms of not wanting to play certain teams, can't worry about that. You play who you are going to play and there can't be any fear or worry of who you play when it comes.

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Sharks TV Color Analyst Drew Remenda posted these comments today:

http://boards.sjsharks.com/index.php?autom...p;blogid=1&

Portion of his blog:

You know what puzzles me? All this “whoa you don’t want to play St. Louis (or Calgary or Anaheim or insert whatever team) in the first round†talk. What about… You don’t want to play the First place since the start of the year, 53 wins and counting NHL Leading San Jose friggin Sharks. I hope there are teams out there that are thinking yeah we really want to play them. We really want to play a team that has a Superstar centre that can dominate games. A Captain having a career year. A puck moving cool as ice smooth skating D-Man. 4 defenceman with 30+ assists. A goalie that is one of the best in the game a team that has the best second line in hockey-a kick ass powerplay and a stingy penalty kill. Doesn’t that sound like fun? I’d just like the “experts†to recognize the Sharks are like Joe Thornton said†the best team in hockeyâ€.

I agree with his thoughts. It strikes me odd that Wings fans are nervous about a possible match-up with the Ducks.

Thoughts on Remenda's comments...

The 8th place team would dearly love to play the Sharks because the alternative is not playing anyone.

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This is a stupid post. Of course nobody wants to play any of the top teams in the league, however the teams that do end up playing #1, 2 or 3 are the teams that are just fighting to get into the playoffs and they for the most part aren't going to complain about who they play.

As far as the best team in hockey. The Sharks are limping to the finish. They have only scored 9 goals total in the last 5 games. Last night they won 1-0 in a shootout against the might Kings. The only goal was a shootout.

They aren't playing well right now so I'm not sure that I would be too confidant if I was one of their fans.

Regular season sucess means nothing. You would think that the Sharks fans would know that better than anyone.

This is hopeful for the Wings. Our game seems to be picking up and theirs, right now, is not so hot. To play to a 0-0 tie in regulation with the Avs is not a good thing. Heh heh....Let's hope that scenario continues.

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This is hopeful for the Wings. Our game seems to be picking up and theirs, right now, is not so hot. To play to a 0-0 tie in regulation with the Avs is not a good thing. Heh heh....Let's hope that scenario continues.

We're not going to play them until the WCF, if at all. If we don't have to play them, great, one less really good team in the way, but we'll still have to play someone pretty darn good that's won two playoff series already. If we do play them, I'd venture that means their iffy regular season finish is behind them.

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