NvrFrgtRussian5 85 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) This makes no sense. If Crosby were a Wing you'd be loving the "unfair" attention. If he would've started his career as a wing and brought on the attention he has with the Pens, then no I wouldn't be complaining but simply seeing his face everywhere as if they've won the stanley cup 3523552356 times is enough for me not to want him on the team now. I just don't like the guy, it goes way beyond his whining and cheap shots and poster effect. I just think he is overrated. Sid the kid Crosby is not the best NHL player to step on the ice as some are inferring. He is not a hockey god. Yeah, hes good but so are plenty of other skilled players. Hossa, Malkin, Ovie, Dats, Zetta keep the names coming, they are all better than Crosby (and i dont give two s***s about stats, stats isn't the only thing that makes a player). If the NHL didn't paint this picture for him, we wouldn't be talking about this right now. And this is all about opinions, if you love Crosby so much good for you, but not everyone does. Obviously. Edited April 25, 2009 by NvrFrgtRussian5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 An opinion is an opinion but anyone who thinks Malkin is the best player on Pittsburgh doesn't watch enough Penguins games. Crosby is the Yzerman to Malkin's Fedorov Never said he was the best player on Pittsburgh, I just don't think Malkin gets nearly enough credit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 I know. It's really funny when people get worked up and start insulting each other's intelligence because they gave the incorrect opinion...and on the internet on top of it because apparently it really matters whether someone you don't know in real life agrees with you. The internet is very serious business. Just being honest. Taking out Crosby's talent, I'd rather scrape my forehead against a cheese grater than find out he's on our team. Just bein' honest. I understand this. I do not like Chara and if he got traded to the Wings I would not be happy. However, as a Wings fan one of my ultimate goals is for the team to be successful. If Chara was on the Wings, he would definitely make the team better. Would I want him on the team to make me like the team more? Most definitely not. Would I want him on the team so that we had a better chance of winning? f*** ya. I think where all the no responses are coming from are because everyone here hates Crosby. I actually like Crosby so I would definitely say yes to this. I guess each fan has their criteria for wanting certain players on their team. If you are the type of fan that wants your top 25 favorite guys in the league on the Wings and we finish last every year then I definitely understand your response and have no arguement against. Sidenote: I'm pretty sure this is how most non-Detroit area fans become Red Wings fans. If it wasn't for Stevie Y. I would not be a Red Wings fan. 15+ years of being a die-hard Red Wings fan will not make me switch teams regardless of who puts on the winged wheel (unless it was something really drastic) If you are like me, you like having guys that are your favorite players, but ultimately the end goal is for the team to win. If you guys agree to this point and still say no to Crosby on the Wings because you think Crosby wouldn't make the team better than......... LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 25, 2009 If he would've started his career as a wing and brought on the attention he has with the Pens, then no I wouldn't be complaining but simply seeing his face everywhere as if they've won the stanley cup 3523552356 times is enough for me not to want him on the team now. I just don't like the guy, it goes way beyond his whining and cheap shots and poster effect. I just think he is overrated. Sid the kid Crosby is not the best NHL player to step on the ice as some are inferring. He is not a hockey god. Yeah, hes good but so are plenty of other skilled players. Hossa, Malkin, Ovie, Dats, Zetta keep the names coming, they are all better than Crosby (and i dont give two s***s about stats, stats isn't the only thing that makes a player). If the NHL didn't paint this picture for him, we wouldn't be talking about this right now. And this is all about opinions, if you love Crosby so much good for you, but not everyone does. Obviously. I can't help but laugh at the vitriol one gets merely for getting attention. I hope you realize that your post comes off as utterly jealous. And I'm sure if there's one thing Penguins fans relish in is they can obviously tell Wings fans are jealous of the attention Crosby and the Penguins get. Highly confusing as to why so many Wings fans are, but it's obvious as day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 I understand this. I do not like Chara and if he got traded to the Wings I would not be happy. However, as a Wings fan one of my ultimate goals is for the team to be successful. If Chara was on the Wings, he would definitely make the team better. Would I want him on the team to make me like the team more? Most definitely not. Would I want him on the team so that we had a better chance of winning? f*** ya. I think where all the no responses are coming from are because everyone here hates Crosby. I actually like Crosby so I would definitely say yes to this. I guess each fan has their criteria for wanting certain players on their team. If you are the type of fan that wants your top 25 favorite guys in the league on the Wings and we finish last every year then I definitely understand your response and have no arguement against. Sidenote: I'm pretty sure this is how most non-Detroit area fans become Red Wings fans. If it wasn't for Stevie Y. I would not be a Red Wings fan. 15+ years of being a die-hard Red Wings fan will not make me switch teams regardless of who puts on the winged wheel (unless it was something really drastic) If you are like me, you like having guys that are your favorite players, but ultimately the end goal is for the team to win. If you guys agree to this point and still say no to Crosby on the Wings because you think Crosby wouldn't make the team better than......... LOL Seriously... watch that logic thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 Once again, your hate is blinding you.....Crosby is a better player than Zetterburg hands down end of story. Show some impartiality and use your head before you type things. The hockey experts that voted for the Conn Smyth trophy and the Selke trophies last year do not agree with you. Z won the Conn Smyth and was a finalist for the Selke. Crosby got neither. You are the one that isn't using your head. Crosby is a better goal scorer but there is a hell of a lot more to the game that goals and assists. someday Sid may be better than Z, but he isn't right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 Of course I'd want Crosby on the Wings. We'd have our own damn channel if that were to happen. Versus would rename itself FSWings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 We're talking about a guy who has played 4 seasons, and his career stats are 290 games, 132 goals, 265 assists, 397 points. He plays the PP and PK, and is the captain of a team that went to the Stanley Cup Finals last year. And oh yeah, he's 21. Why would anyone even think twice? All of the complaints against him - cry baby, gets too much attention, etc. - are things we ***** about because he's the enemy. They don't affect his performance or contributions to his team. No one in Pittsburgh seem to be concerned with his leadership, or his attention, no one there is clamoring to get rid of him. Obviously the salary cap presents problems with adding him to the current roster, but if the question is simply "is he a guy you'd want on your team?" it should be a no-brainer. That wasn't the question. It was would you take Sid over Hossa. And that is an entirely different question. Would I want Sid on my team? Hell yes Would I take Sid over Hossa? ah...no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 Seriously... watch that logic thing. Ya, it was post that.... OR.... :caution: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 I hate Crosby. But that has everything to do with his personality, not his talent. And considering I care a great deal about the talent that this team loads up with, of course I would want him on the team. He better stay the f*** away from our As and Cs though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieY'sguy 1 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 The hockey experts that voted for the Conn Smyth trophy and the Selke trophies last year do not agree with you. Z won the Conn Smyth and was a finalist for the Selke. Crosby got neither. You are the one that isn't using your head. Crosby is a better goal scorer but there is a hell of a lot more to the game that goals and assists. someday Sid may be better than Z, but he isn't right now. Crosby and Z tied for the playoff scoring lead last year, the wings had a better team and won the series, if you truly believe that had the Pens beat us that Z still would have won the Conn Smythe trophy over Crosby then i would suspect that you've taken some serious blows to the head in your time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electrophile 3,554 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 Sure. Right after we sign Claude Lemieux. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 That wasn't the question. It was would you take Sid over Hossa. And that is an entirely different question. Would I want Sid on my team? Hell yes Would I take Sid over Hossa? ah...no Fair enough, but most of the replies here saying "NO" to Crosby aren't addressing that either, they're just saying they don't want him here. That was really what my post was addressing. As for Crosby vs. Hossa, I think Hossa probably complements the existing roster better and cheaper than Crosby would, but if money were no issue Crosby's age would definitely make me think twice. If we're starting a team from scratch, with all bias aside, I would take Sid over Hossa without blinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McCartyFanForLife 17 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 No, I would not want Crosby on the team. I don't care if he ends up being better than Gretzky. He is a ***** that embodies everything that is wrong with the new NHL. He is an offensive machine and that is it. He has no idea how to play defense. If he was on the Ducks, he'd never see the ice because he can't kill a penalty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 Would he make the team better? Absolutely. That's good enough for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 Ya, it was post that.... OR.... :caution: Hahahaha. I don't know whether I should be insulted or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) Seriously... watch that logic thing. Crosby is a talented player yet he lacks discipline and composure. As others have pointed out, Malkin is more versatile. Edited April 25, 2009 by Rivalred Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 Hahahaha. I don't know whether I should be insulted or not. Not referring to you specifically, more to the thread in general Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Austin 5 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) Honestly.. no, I wouldn't. Not because I don't think he's good or because he's a diver or a whiner or anything, but because I just don't like him as a hockey player. He's got skills, no doubt about that, but I just don't like him, no matter what colors he's wearing. Be it because of the media bias towards him, or from what I've seen of him on and off the ice, I just don't like him. It'd be like if Sean Avery wanted to sign with the wings for $1. Most people would say you'd be crazy not to take that, because like him or not, he's a decent hockey player and he's got the grit we need and it'd only be $1. Not me. I won't root for Crosby no matter who he plays for. Same goes for Avery or Thornton or Lemuix, amongst a host of other players. If Terrelle Pryor got drafted by the Lions in a few years, I'd still hate him. If the Pistons got Anderson Varejao or Joakim Noah, I'd still hate them. To me it's not the colors a player wears, it's what he represents. Would Crosby make us a better team? Probably. But I'd still hate him, and wouldn't want him on our team. Until Z and Dats and Hossa are gone, I'm fine with our team the way it is. We're one of the classiest teams in the league, not too many players to hate if you look at the roster (Maltby, but what does he really do anymore? Homer maybe?) I love the Wings the way they are. Edited April 25, 2009 by Austin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 Crosby is a better player than Zetterburg hands down end of story. Crosby is a better goal scorer. Hank's all-around game is better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 Crosby is a better goal scorer. Hank's all-around game is better. 1. We have plenty of defensive forwards. 2. Crosby can learn from guys like Datsyuk and Hossa and become just as good as Zetterberg. 3. Crosby is 21. Right now he may not have the overall game Zetterberg has but he has plenty of time to do it. And his offense is only rivaled by three players, one of which is on the Wings already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsFan2008 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 I can't believe some of the retarded responses in here. Geez, he's only 21! His prime doesn't even start for another 6-7 years! Just imagine what a monster he'll be at 27. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) 1. We have plenty of defensive forwards. 2. Crosby can learn from guys like Datsyuk and Hossa and become just as good as Zetterberg. 3. Crosby is 21. Right now he may not have the overall game Zetterberg has but he has plenty of time to do it. And his offense is only rivaled by three players, one of which is on the Wings already. I was just responding to a point. Someone said Crosby's the better player right now. Which he's not. Edited April 25, 2009 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 I can't believe some of the retarded responses in here. Geez, he's only 21! His prime doesn't even start for another 6-7 years! Just imagine what a monster he'll be at 27. We already have our monster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted April 25, 2009 Crosby to Franzen would be a good connection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites