kidish 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 Ever been knocked off balance? Ever tried to walk on a balance beam? You use your arms to stabilize yourself. Homer was surrounded, he tried to stay balanced and threw his arms out. I play a bit of ice hockey, so of course I know what you mean. This is NOT throwing your arms out for balance though. That's an elbow to someone's face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 Come on Detroit, you fans are usually far less blind than Anaheim. A human being got hit with a speeding puck at the chest, between the padding. Then he got elbowed -- hey, it had to hurt. Now HERE's where some manning-up was called for. That's not the first time Franzen's done that. He's a ***** sometimes. We've spoken about this before. But JW made it seem like he had a compound fracture or something. He was on the ground for what seemed like an eternity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chairman Maouth 97 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) yes.. what a pu$$y having to be taking away in a streather after his lungs where bruised and was coughing up blood and taking a elbow to the face... seriously? I gotta side with Duck Guy on this one. You guys are rationalizing by discrediting an injured player and attempting to mitigate in order to make your team look better. s*** happens, and it was an unintentional lung injury, and a questionable elbow. Move on. Edited May 7, 2009 by One of the Few Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtomicPunk 296 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) That is Homer trying to get away from Niedavacation's grip. Chill. Niedermeyer was called for holding on the play, remember, he had his stick holding Homer. Edited May 7, 2009 by AtomicPunk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrik40 76 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 Sure it's an elbow to someone's face I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that it wasn't intentional. If this is an intentional elbow, then high sticks are intentional the majority of the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrik40 76 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 I gotta side with Duck Guy on this one. You guys are rationalizing by discrediting an injured player and attempting to mitigate in order to make your team look better. s*** happens, and it was an unintentional lung injury, and a questionable elbow. Move on. there's a couple bad apples that said he was a female reproductive organ for going off on a stretcher. I feel like most people don't care that he went off on a stretcher. It was a precautionary, maybe necessary move by the trainers. That's fine with me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kidish 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 Sure it's an elbow to someone's face I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that it wasn't intentional. If this is an intentional elbow, then high sticks are intentional the majority of the time. I don't think it was intentional per se either, just that, hey, he DID throw one. It's cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kidish 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 That is Homer trying to get away from Niedavacation's grip. Chill. Scotty looks pretty fierce there, huh? (I so wish he wasn't a Duck.) Still...in this pose his hook doesn't seem to have much leverage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chairman Maouth 97 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) there's a couple bad apples that said he was a female reproductive organ for going off on a stretcher. I feel like most people don't care that he went off on a stretcher. It was a precautionary, maybe necessary move by the trainers. That's fine with me. Agreed. Athletes have been killed by shots to the chest before. Amateur Hockey Player Killed After Puck Strikes Chest Saturday, October 27, 2007 SHELTON, CT (AP) - An amateur hockey player died after a puck struck him in the chest and caused him to go into cardiac arrest late Thursday, officials said. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.obituar...067401c7caa9e9c Edited May 7, 2009 by One of the Few Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtomicPunk 296 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) Watch the VIDEO, not the screen capture, selected because it suits the argument. You can see he is trying to twist away from Niedermeyer and gets the elbow up. Ref already has his arm up. Then Holmstrom goes behind the net once he frees himself from Neidermeyer's holding. Edited May 7, 2009 by AtomicPunk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 His Mom is gutless!!!! esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 Wisniewski and the other Ducks that have called Holmstrom's elbow "dirty" and "gutless" are just trying to distract everyone from the fact that they got a HUGE call go their way from the refs. Thats all it is. Lets make the Red Wings look like the bad guys so that we can feel better about our hollow victory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Systemfel 33 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 What a fail thing to say when you have Chris Pronger on your team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chairman Maouth 97 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 Wisniewski and the other Ducks that have called Holmstrom's elbow "dirty" and "gutless" are just trying to distract everyone from the fact that they got a HUGE call go their way from the refs. Thats all it is. Lets make the Red Wings look like the bad guys so that we can feel better about our hollow victory. I don't think either team looks like a bad guy in this situation. However, some of the fans are a different story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sixer 37 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 And too think I picked him in my hockey pool with my last pick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 which NHL player wouldn't take an elbow to their face in exchange for a disallowed goal in the final minute? if the wings had scored and then came back to win, then i can justify all of the complaining. the word "gutless" has to be thrown out there every other series, it's in the books. he's just trying to ruffle the wing's feathers, so to speak, and spark the ducks. there are nasty elbows being thrown around in every game, and i highly doubt holmstrom knew james was bleeding internally and decided to smash in his face. it was a nasty elbow, no doubt. i'm glad he's ok. but enough vilifying homer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Third Man In 2,091 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 I think Homer did mean to throw an elbow. He was being hooked by Niedermayer, felt Wisniewski make contact from behind and to the side, and he threw an elbow to get away. This happens many times during a game when battling for position in front of the net (along with crosschecks and holds that also don't get called). But Holmstrom wasn't trying to elbow an injured player in the face. He wasn't even looking at Wisniewski when he threw the elbow. Wisniewski was haunched over because he was hurt, so an elbow that would have normally caught him in the chest caught him in the face instead. But if you think Homer's thought process was "Wisniewski's lungs are bleeding! I'm gonna elbow him in the face now!", well, that's pretty callow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 do a youtube search of "pronger elbow" and compare it to a search of "holmstrom elbow". i know this doesn't prove anything, but geeeeez. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Wing 1,521 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 A bruised lung? Are you kidding me? Back in MY day....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 Well, not discrediting an injured player, nor making fun. But I am pretty sure Holmstrom didn't know he was already hurt, even it is was on purpose, which it could've been, BUT to call Holmstrom gutless because of it, then what do you call 90% of the Anaheim Ducks when they crosscheck, slash, punch, face wash, etc... AFTER EVERY ******* WHISTLE!?!?!?!?! I am so sick of players throwing rocks in glass houses! Oh, Holmstrom is so gutless for elbowing me! Oh Boo Hoo! Dude, sorry you got hurt with the puck, but even if you didn't you'd still be calling Homer gutless, so YOU man up. If Holmstrom is gutless, then you are spineless, yellow, and a c**ksucker, so is your entire goonery squad. Oh I am big bad Chris PRonger, I wo't drop the gloves with anybody over 6'2"! I would love to let Ericsson loose on Pronger or if Downey ever got in. Pronger would ***** away along with the rest of the team. If Datsyuk is there, oh sure he'll drop the gloves! Same goes with every other player on the cucks team. Talk about gutless! You see Corey Fairy don't f*** around with Ericsson anymore. Get well soon Wisneiwski, so we can see just how full of guts you are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mickey Redmond 15 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 whoever called him a puss for leaving the ice on a stretcher is an idiot. this series bringing a lot of our dumbass fans out of the woodwork. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chairman Maouth 97 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) Well, not discrediting an injured player, nor making fun. But I am pretty sure Holmstrom didn't know he was already hurt, even it is was on purpose, which it could've been, BUT to call Holmstrom gutless because of it, then what do you call 90% of the Anaheim Ducks when they crosscheck, slash, punch, face wash, etc... AFTER EVERY ******* WHISTLE!?!?!?!?! I am so sick of players throwing rocks in glass houses! Oh, Holmstrom is so gutless for elbowing me! Oh Boo Hoo! Dude, sorry you got hurt with the puck, but even if you didn't you'd still be calling Homer gutless, so YOU man up. If Holmstrom is gutless, then you are spineless, yellow, and a c**ksucker, so is your entire goonery squad. Oh I am big bad Chris PRonger, I wo't drop the gloves with anybody over 6'2"! I would love to let Ericsson loose on Pronger or if Downey ever got in. Pronger would ***** away along with the rest of the team. If Datsyuk is there, oh sure he'll drop the gloves! Same goes with every other player on the cucks team. Talk about gutless! You see Corey Fairy don't f*** around with Ericsson anymore. Get well soon Wisneiwski, so we can see just how full of guts you are. I see an anger management therapist in your future. Edited May 7, 2009 by One of the Few Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kidish 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 His Mom is gutless!!!! esteef This is my favorite post of the day. Haha. Wisniewski with the lame-duck (hey, like the pun?) comment. Holmstrom with the awkward explanation of cheap-shoting an injured guy. It's gravy. Of course Holmstrom didn't intend to elbow an injured dude! But throw an elbow in general? Oh yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 I see an anger management therapist in your future. haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kidish 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2009 whoever called him a puss for leaving the ice on a stretcher is an idiot. this series bringing a lot of our dumbass fans out of the woodwork. Brings them out in Anaheim too... ...wait, that's all of them, perhaps? Heh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
