Wombat 26 Report post Posted May 8, 2009 The thing to remember with momentum from fighting is that in the same fight, one team gains momentum and the other loses it. Beauchemin was probably hoping he'd stir up his teammates, and Kopy knew that his teammates would approve of the trade-off in getting the Ducks D even more shorthanded. Excellent move by Kopy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted May 8, 2009 Great job by Kopy, wish he had know about the lefty but oh well. Great job, I like that they removed the helmets and squared up. You could tell he didn't know Beauchemin was left handed by the way he grabbed on to his jersey originally and after that he was never in a position to do much. Appearantly the are going to run tests on Kopy to make sure everything is ok: Detroit Red Wings forward Tomas Kopecky will undergo tests today to determine if he sustained any more damage Thursday during a third-period fight with Anaheim's Francois Beauchemin.Kopecky, his right cheek swollen, said he felt OK and his vision was good after Beauchemin battered him with a flurry of punches. Kopecky will have X-rays and a CT scan.The club will be cautious. Defenseman Andreas Lilja hasn't returned from a concussion after getting punched in the chin by Nashville's Shea Webber on Feb. 28. "When you take a punch to the head it's always scary, so we'll see,'' Kopecky said. "Right now I don't know (the damage). I feel all right.'' It looks like he was aware of the great exchange of getting Beauchemin off the ice as well : Kopecky viewed it as a good exchange, since Beauchemin is a top-four defenseman for an Anaheim team that already was missing its No. 5 defenseman, James Wisniewski, with an injury. The Ducks, who trailed 5-3 with 8:51 to play, could have used Beauchemin on the ice, but instead he was in the penalty box for five minutes. "He was cross-checking me in front of the net and then he asked me if I wanted to go. I didn't back off from the challenge,'' Kopecky said. "It was a good chance for me to take him (off), and that's what I did.'' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) "He was cross-checking me in front of the net and then he asked me if I wanted to go. I didn't back off from the challenge,'' Kopecky said. "It was a good chance for me to take him (off), and that's what I did.'' Ok, I am now a fan. Didn't back down from the challenge. Realized the opportunity. Did his best. EuroTwin is going to lose control of something major. Edited May 8, 2009 by 55fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted May 8, 2009 Remember kids, there's no fighting in the playoffs. It's useless and takes away from the game. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted May 8, 2009 This was perfect timing by Kopy. Momentum shmomentum - the Ducks just scored, they already had the mommentum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted May 8, 2009 Remember kids, there's no fighting in the playoffs. It's useless and takes away from the game. esteef LOL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2009 Remember kids, there's no fighting in the playoffs. It's useless and takes away from the game. esteef Who exactly says that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) That was a fight? No. Kopecky wanted to hug and Beauchemin didn't agree. Pathetic showing by Kopecky, he should be way tougher, not only in fights/hugs but he should be able to hit much harder. Kopecky sucks, but this might be the best thing he has ever done. Edited May 8, 2009 by Reds4Life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted May 8, 2009 This was perfect timing by Kopy. Momentum shmomentum - the Ducks just scored, they already had the mommentum. Is there ever perfect timing to get your ass kicked? Had he won (or had a fighting chance) it would have been good timing, but what happened last night could have very easily made things worse as far as momentum and crowd energy. Thankfully it turned out okay ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted May 8, 2009 I'm glad he took a d-man off the ice, but other than that, there is NOTHING good about the fight. Timing was horrible, and Kopecky has never won a fight. We all knew he was going down as soon as he lost his gloves. The only nice thing to see was two visor wearing players ditch the lids, but that is not a fight you take at that point of a hockey game (trying to preserve a lead on the road right after they have scored a goal). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted May 8, 2009 This was perfect timing by Kopy. Momentum shmomentum - the Ducks just scored, they already had the mommentum. exactly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted May 8, 2009 That was a fight? No. Kopecky wanted to hug and Beauchemin didn't agree. Pathetic showing by Kopecky, he should be way tougher, not only in fights/hugs but he should be able to hit much harder. Kopecky sucks, but this might be the best thing he has ever done. Thats a bit harsh. I gained some respect for Kopay for showing he didnt lose his testicles. He didnt want to hug Beauchemin, he just wasnt prepared for him to switch to southpaw so he grabbed his right arm but got beaten down with his left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-TownWing 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2009 I couldn't think of anything but Carcillo-Talbot when it was happening, and was POed at Kopy for handing them momentum, and right after they scored too. Turned out to be sound strategy that didn't burn us, so I won't complain! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted May 8, 2009 Remember kids, there's no fighting in the playoffs. It's useless and takes away from the game. esteef Seen Parros lately? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted May 8, 2009 (edited) He deserves some due. At least he didn't leave his visor on. And I think the fight that fired up the Pens did so because it was their teammate that got pummeled. I think it's a little different if it's your team that did the beating instead of receiving it. Edited May 8, 2009 by titanium2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted May 8, 2009 Seen Parros lately? Nope. The Ducks are in a series against a physically weak team. Parros isn't needed. The wings don't have anyone who would dare fight the guy, they're just too dainty. If the wings only had players who were afraid to shoot the puck, the Ducks wouldn't have to dress a Goalie either. I did see Eager and Hordichuk last night though.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted May 8, 2009 Blackhawks Just kiddin' - agree with the trade off concerning Beauchemin/Kopecky...Too bad Kopay didn't do better in the scrap; IMO it was brutal! My bad....I had Wisniewski (and his former team) on the brain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted May 8, 2009 Is there ever perfect timing to get your ass kicked? Had he won (or had a fighting chance) it would have been good timing, but what happened last night could have very easily made things worse as far as momentum and crowd energy. Thankfully it turned out okay ... Yes there is a perfect time to get your ass kicked - and that was it. If momentum and crowd energy are really gained by winning fights, Downey would be in. Kopecky did the absolute best thing he could have done in that situation. It would have been nice if he had won the fight, but I'm just happy he stood up for himself and did the team a favor. I hope it's contagious. LOL - the Wings are fighting more often in this series than they did in the reg. season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted May 8, 2009 Nope. The Ducks are in a series against a physically weak team. Parros isn't needed. The wings don't have anyone who would dare fight the guy, they're just too dainty. If the wings only had players who were afraid to shoot the puck, the Ducks wouldn't have to dress a Goalie either. I did see Eager and Hordichuk last night though.... So if all the Wings are scared of Parros, why don't the Ducks dress him so our bench is sitting there quaking in their skates? Sounds like it would be a tremendous advantage... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted May 8, 2009 Nope. The Ducks are in a series against a physically weak team. Parros isn't needed useful. The wings don't have anyone who would dare fight the guy, they're just too dainty. If the wings only had players who were afraid to shoot the puck, the Ducks wouldn't have to dress a Goalie either. I did see Eager and Hordichuk last night though.... Fixed it for you. It has nothing to do with the Wings being a "physically weak team" as you call it. It's that he would be more of a hindrance to his team than he would be helpful against this Red Wings club. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mors 201 Report post Posted May 8, 2009 Yes there is a perfect time to get your ass kicked - and that was it. If momentum and crowd energy are really gained by winning fights, Downey would be in. Kopecky did the absolute best thing he could have done in that situation. It would have been nice if he had won the fight, but I'm just happy he stood up for himself and did the team a favor. I hope it's contagious. LOL - the Wings are fighting more often in this series than they did in the reg. season. Momentum and crowd energy have often changed after a winning fight for the losing team, that's why these guys try to start a fight and give their team a jump... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted May 8, 2009 Yes there is a perfect time to get your ass kicked - and that was it. If momentum and crowd energy are really gained by winning fights, Downey would be in. Kopecky did the absolute best thing he could have done in that situation. It would have been nice if he had won the fight, but I'm just happy he stood up for himself and did the team a favor. I hope it's contagious. LOL - the Wings are fighting more often in this series than they did in the reg. season. The fact that Downey isn't in doesn't mean winning a fight doesn't boost momentum and crowd energy. I'm not knocking Kopecky, good for him for sticking up for himself. That doesn't make the timing right. Again, if the Ducks had fed off of the momentum and scored again there would ten Kopecky-bashing threads started this morning. Just because something works out well doesn't make it the right thing to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted May 8, 2009 So if all the Wings are scared of Parros, why don't the Ducks dress him so our bench is sitting there quaking in their skates? Sounds like it would be a tremendous advantage... You know why. It's because nobody on the Wings has the sack to fight him. Toughguys aren't allowed to pick fights with whoever they want anymore. The game has changed. It used to be, if you wanted to play hockey at the professional level, you better be able to take care of yourself, or your team will appoint a caretaker to you. Now, you can be a cowardly ***** all you want, and the refs take care of you. I'm not sure it's better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted May 8, 2009 Fixed it for you. It has nothing to do with the Wings being a "physically weak team" as you call it. It's that he would be more of a hindrance to his team than he would be helpful against this Red Wings club. ....because the Wings are a physically weak team - too weak to play the game that Parros plays. If Downey were dressed, Parros would be dressed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted May 8, 2009 Seen Parros lately? You mean the Parros that played all six games of the Sharks series and Game 1 of this one? Yes, I've seen him. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
