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[Jake Ryan 1]

ok, guys. You're all right. I mean, Holmstrom is lighting it up offensively. I mean, once the Wings started to play some tough teams, he's just been a dynamo with his 0 points in 10 games. I mean, give the guy some credit. Pffffff

Excuse me for wanting good defense and backchecking instead of "net presence". I'd rather have someone who can skate and play 2 ways instead of Ninety-SUX.

[Ms_Hockey 0]

ok, guys. You're all right. I mean, Holmstrom is lighting it up offensively. I mean, once the Wings started to play some tough teams, he's just been a dynamo with his 0 points in 10 games. I mean, give the guy some credit. Pffffff

Excuse me for wanting good defense and backchecking instead of "net presence". I'd rather have someone who can skate and play 2 ways instead of Ninety-SUX.

Then become a fan of a different team.

I wouldn't trade Homer for anything. Other teams would kill to have this guy planted in front of the opposition's net for them. This is really just a case of being overly-spoiled.

[Jake Ryan 1]

Then become a fan of a different team.

I wouldn't trade Homer for anything. Other teams would kill to have this guy planted in front of the opposition's net for them. This is really just a case of being overly-spoiled.

Actually, it's not. The numbers don't lie, hockeymom. They tell you the story of an aging veteran who's only getting minutes on the team because of past accomplishments. Spend a couple games watching how out of place Holmstrom is 5 on 5. When they say guys have "lost a step", it's normally players that had one in the first place. Holmstrom never had a step, and he's lost 3 or 4 over the years. I won't disagree with you that he serves a valueable purpose on the power play and can serve as a "net presence" in that situation. I would STRONGLY DISAGREE with you that he's useful to the team during 5 on 5. *** on a man, if you ask me.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=84607...season=20082009

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Maybe you should watch again and see that the Wings collectively had an idiot moment by icing the puck twice in a row after being pinned in there zone. Homer was dead tired, he had no chance at Sharp who had just come off the bench.

[Jake Ryan 1]

Maybe you should watch again and see that the Wings collectively had an idiot moment by icing the puck twice in a row after being pinned in there zone. Homer was dead tired, he had no chance at Sharp who had just come off the bench.

Especially not from where the linesman normally stands. It's hard to play defense from the blueline up against the boards. I get that, brother.

[Rocket Queen 30 1]

Then become a fan of a different team.

I wouldn't trade Homer for anything. Other teams would kill to have this guy planted in front of the opposition's net for them. This is really just a case of being overly-spoiled.

agreed!

[Ms_Hockey 0]

Actually, it's not. The numbers don't lie, hockeymom. They tell you the story of an aging veteran who's only getting minutes on the team because of past accomplishments. Spend a couple games watching how out of place Holmstrom is 5 on 5. When they say guys have "lost a step", it's normally players that had one in the first place. Holmstrom never had a step, and he's lost 3 or 4 over the years. I won't disagree with you that he serves a valueable purpose on the power play and can serve as a "net presence" in that situation. I would STRONGLY DISAGREE with you that he's useful to the team during 5 on 5. *** on a man, if you ask me.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=84607...season=20082009

I'm 20 years old and don't even have kids.. so the "hockeymom" thing needs to end.

Holmstrom is the best in the league at what he does. He's not put on the ice to put up points and score goals. He's put on the ice to screen the goalie. He's made his entire career out of that one tiny aspect of the game.. and he's succeeded to a ridiculous degree at it. We have plenty of talent on this team to let Holmstrom do nothing other than screening.

Naturally, you can think whatever you like. But to blame the entire OT loss on Holmstrom is a bit ridiculous. The entire line broke down - not just him.

[HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878]

Actually, it's not. The numbers don't lie, hockeymom. They tell you the story of an aging veteran who's only getting minutes on the team because of past accomplishments. Spend a couple games watching how out of place Holmstrom is 5 on 5. When they say guys have "lost a step", it's normally players that had one in the first place. Holmstrom never had a step, and he's lost 3 or 4 over the years. I won't disagree with you that he serves a valueable purpose on the power play and can serve as a "net presence" in that situation. I would STRONGLY DISAGREE with you that he's useful to the team during 5 on 5. *** on a man, if you ask me.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=84607...season=20082009

Alright little buddy, then our power play would be s*** if we didn't have Holmstrom in front of the net. Most of our goals come from Holmstrom screening the goalie so he can't see the puck. Without Holmstorm our power play would be garbage, we will look like game 3. Lost out on the power play.

[Guest Shoreline]

I saw the same "numbers" BS used against Ozzie and pretty much everyone else Wings and to use to justify bashing players on this team.

Fact is, no numbers will show that when this team loses, all the knee-jerk s*** comes out of the woodwork, declaring some person responsible, and putting them on the guillotine.

Edited May 24, 2009 by Shoreline

[XxGoWingsxX 0]

This Homer hate fest you have going really needs to stop because it is getting old quick. If you think we lost that game because of Homer then you are an idiot. Lidstrom broke his stick and couldn't clear the puck. Flipper goes to give Lidstrom his stick and is out of position because of that. The Wings had their chances to clear the puck before that too and failed to do so. It was an unfortunate series of events that lead to the goal but in no way is it exclusively Homer's fault. It's the team's fault that they lost. Going down 3-0 before deciding to play is ridiculous. Are you going to blame Homer for the slow ass start they had? You win as a team and you lose as a team.

Best post of the thread right here!!!

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

Watch the replay of the game winner and watch who comes skating in to watch the blackhawks celebrate their overtime goal instead of backchecking to prevent the goal in the first place. Yep, Ninety-SUX. Blueline to Blueline players are worthless in OT. I still can't figure out why Babcock won't ditch his HHO and get someone who's willing to hustle out there. It's so frustrating to watch this guy cost us games.

We get it. You don't like him.

[BuckeyeWingsfan80 209]

Actually, it's not. The numbers don't lie, hockeymom. They tell you the story of an aging veteran who's only getting minutes on the team because of past accomplishments. Spend a couple games watching how out of place Holmstrom is 5 on 5. When they say guys have "lost a step", it's normally players that had one in the first place. Holmstrom never had a step, and he's lost 3 or 4 over the years. I won't disagree with you that he serves a valueable purpose on the power play and can serve as a "net presence" in that situation. I would STRONGLY DISAGREE with you that he's useful to the team during 5 on 5. *** on a man, if you ask me.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=84607...season=20082009

I'd bet you really feel like a jackass today....well if you actually were a Red Wings fan in the first place.

[Jake Ryan 1]

I'd bet you really feel like a jackass today....well if you actually were a Red Wings fan in the first place.

And why is that again? Because he had zero points again? 0 in 11 now. ON THE ***** DETROIT RED WINGS!!! That's almost impossible to do. Do you realize that?

[Rivalred 630]

And why is that again? Because he had zero points again? 0 in 11 now. ON THE ***** DETROIT RED WINGS!!! That's almost impossible to do. Do you realize that?

Seriously... Top players have been too busy playing D and that is where the 2nd or 3rd trier lines have been scoring...

(was about to edit some of that out )

Edited May 25, 2009 by Rivalred

[stormboy 47]

ok, guys. You're all right. I mean, Holmstrom is lighting it up offensively. I mean, once the Wings started to play some tough teams, he's just been a dynamo with his 0 points in 10 games. I mean, give the guy some credit. Pffffff

Excuse me for wanting good defense and backchecking instead of "net presence". I'd rather have someone who can skate and play 2 ways instead of Ninety-SUX.

unless you can clone one or more of datsyuk, zetterberg, hossa, filppula, cleary, plus franzen, helm, hudler, and even sammy, you're occasionally going to get some players that have a pretty one- or two-dimensional game. homer is one of those, admittedly, but is great at his couple dimensions.

yesterday, a young, hungry team beat us on their home ice. nothing wrong with that. today, without two of our top four players, we beat them 6-1. are you now saying, "ZOMG WHERE WAS HOMER ON THAT PPG f*** WE SHOULD HAVE WON 10-0 IT'S ALL HOMER'S FAULT WE GOT SCORED ON AND DIDN'T SCORE FOUR MORE GOALS OMGWTFBBQ!!!!1!!!11ONE!!!!1ELEVEN!!"?

i mean, look, if one small part of homer's game was solely responsible for the entire game three loss, then he must clearly be the defining characteristic of our team. which means that despite his zero points today, by your own logic, jake ryan, holmstrom is responsible for this win. i'm sure he'll be flattered.

[David 2]

Holmstrom can probably take Jake Ryan's trash talk. After all, he takes 50 cross checks to the lower back every game in the name of getting to the front of the net and screening the goalie for the chance to score a garbage goal; or screen the goalie for a goal that would be completely stoppable if it weren't for his efforts.

[Jake Ryan 1]

unless you can clone one or more of datsyuk, zetterberg, hossa, filppula, cleary, plus franzen, helm, hudler, and even sammy, you're occasionally going to get some players that have a pretty one- or two-dimensional game. homer is one of those, admittedly, but is great at his couple dimensions.

yesterday, a young, hungry team beat us on their home ice. nothing wrong with that. today, without two of our top four players, we beat them 6-1. are you now saying, "ZOMG WHERE WAS HOMER ON THAT PPG f*** WE SHOULD HAVE WON 10-0 IT'S ALL HOMER'S FAULT WE GOT SCORED ON AND DIDN'T SCORE FOUR MORE GOALS OMGWTFBBQ!!!!1!!!11ONE!!!!1ELEVEN!!"?

i mean, look, if one small part of homer's game was solely responsible for the entire game three loss, then he must clearly be the defining characteristic of our team. which means that despite his zero points today, by your own logic, jake ryan, holmstrom is responsible for this win. i'm sure he'll be flattered.

[Rivalred 630]

That is a play out of my book!

Really though, that post by StormBoy is accurate compared to some you author.

Edited May 25, 2009 by Rivalred

[Jake Ryan 1]

That is a play out of my book!

Really though, that post by StormBoy makes is accurate compared to some you author.

You've always gotta have that one cued up, eh!!!

[Rivalred 630]

You've always gotta have that one cued up, eh!!!

I usually do not use the same one... StormBoy's post is solid compared to yours; just with sarcasm.

[TSM 0]

Jake needs to learn that statistics only tell part of the story. I've been watching Homer since he got to our team and there's an intangible respect that he brings to our team. The nature of his presence in front of opposing goalies is two fold in the sense that he's both effective at deflections and being an all around pest. In my mind, the man enjoys the punishment and there is no statistic that measures that degree of toughness. Homer is THE MAN in my book, no matter how many goals he scores or not.

[drfnr14 0]

lock we won game 4 in a blow-out status its history move on!!!!!!!!

/lockthread

[Jake Ryan 1]

Ninety-SUX is lucky he plays on the Red Wings. He'd get cut on other teams.

[maltbymaniac 13]

ok, guys. You're all right. I mean, Holmstrom is lighting it up offensively. I mean, once the Wings started to play some tough teams, he's just been a dynamo with his 0 points in 10 games. I mean, give the guy some credit. Pffffff

Excuse me for wanting good defense and backchecking instead of "net presence". I'd rather have someone who can skate and play 2 ways instead of Ninety-SUX.

boooooo

[maltbymaniac 13]

Ninety-SUX is lucky he plays on the Red Wings. He'd get cut on other teams.

im calling for a ban,for that 1. r u on drugs???