BewareThePenguin 1 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Where's the outrage when Hossa got laid out at center ice when the puck was not even near him? Where's the outrage when Malkin tripped up Kronwall.. or the trip on Helm? Or holding on Lidstrom... where's the outrage? See how this works, junior? We can ALL find s*** to throw. ***-for-tat. STOP CRYING!!!!! If that above stuff is as bad as you say then, let's get it all called, sparky. But please, no whining about some conspiracy as an insurance excuse to break open in case of loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McCartyFanForLife 17 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 wow, and you guys talk about OTHERS' lack of rules knowledge? It's called body position -- the Pens player had it when he went THROUGH Hossa. I've already called out things on Malkin, sorry your straw man argument won't cut it. Heck, I wanted Malkin sitting out this game -- how's THAT for objectivity, chum? Difference is, I admit things -- haven't heard a single instance of a Wings fan here admitting their team ever committed a rules infraction. Hmmm. When we commit rules infractions, we will be sitting in the box. Very simple. You guys had more than enough 5 on 3's last year, don't get pissy because you haven't gotten them this year. If you expect each Wings fan to watch every game and point every single judgment call infraction, you are delusional. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerman#19 17 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 game 3 vs. washington after going down 2-0 in the series Penalty Summary 1st Period Pittsburgh interference - 2 min 9:38, S. Gonchar Washington interference - 2 min 12:47, M. Nylander Washington delay of game - 2 min 19:34, M. Jurcina 2nd Period Washington slashing - 2 min 10:05, M. Green Washington slashing - 2 min 19:16, S. Varlamov served by V. Kozlov 3rd Period Washington interference - 2 min 4:54, A. Ovechkin Washington hooking - 2 min 14:10, A. Semin Pittsburgh interference - 2 min 17:32, P. Dupuis OT Period Washington delay of game - 2 min 2:15, B. Pothier Replace Washington with Detroit and this looks about right for tonight. Just like in game 7 against Was, ZERO penalties on Pitt. I saw this coming a mile down the road. In Pitts, on Versus (fewer witnesses), Wings up 2-0. I expect at least two 5 on 3's for Pitt in the 1st alone. Gary has to make sure it's not a sweep. He can't have the Stanley Cup presentation broadcasted on Versus. What a Joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdavis 28 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Like this? http://www.latimes.com/sports/lat-redwings...0,5726880.photo You know, you are quite annoying... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BewareThePenguin 1 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Okay, got it. It's called "It's called body position" if it's the Pens and "obstruction" if it is the Wings. K, now I see your reasoning No, you don't. The Pens player hit Hossa squared-up and forward. That's call establishing body position. He then skated on, in the same path. Samuellson didn't have the same established position when he blocked Malkin -- he only picked him to keep him from preventing him from blocking the other Wings' players shot. That's otherwise known as a "screen" and a big fat no-no. See the diff? Imagine how you'd be howling if say, Guerin nudged Zetterberg away to free Crosby for a slap shot. Wow do I have to teach everybody the rules here? And just in case you think it's just me blowing smoke -- go back to the game replay. Even the announcer said Samuellson got away with interference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taylorov 37 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Like this? http://www.latimes.com/sports/lat-redwings...0,5726880.photo Looks like 11 is trying to hold Samuelsson back after being hit by Ericsson? If the BS is called both ways its all good. Let them play. However, with all of the inconsistencies and agendas, I doubt it will be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 No, you don't. The Pens player hit Hossa squared-up and forward. That's call establishing body position. He then skated on, in the same path. Samuellson didn't have the same established position when he blocked Malkin -- he only picked him to keep him from preventing him from blocking the other Wings' players shot. That's otherwise known as a "screen" and a big fat no-no. See the diff? Imagine how you'd be howling if say, Guerin nudged Zetterberg away to free Crosby for a slap shot. Wow do I have to teach everybody the rules here? And just in case you think it's just me blowing smoke -- go back to the game replay. Even the announcer said Samuellson got away with interference. Start by teaching yourself. Stop listing all the things the Wings got away with and start listing all the things the Pens got away with. Until then, zip it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BewareThePenguin 1 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Looks like 11 is trying to hold Samuelsson back after being hit by Ericsson? Looks to me like the puck is nowhere in sight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Looks to me like the puck is nowhere in sight. You would be that dumb to think that Ericsson and Sammy are going after Staal when he didn't have the puck. The angle of the pic doesn't show the puck, the puck was passed away already, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BewareThePenguin 1 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 You know, you are quite annoying... I know, I know... now that I've demonstrated I know a shred about the rules, so you can't use the ol' "I question your rules knowledge" ploy that seems to be so popular around here... plus posting actual visual evidence, I imagine I could be rubbing a couple of you the wrong way. I see your point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 I know, I know... now that I've demonstrated I know a shred about the rules, so you can't use the ol' "I question your rules knowledge" ploy that seems to be so popular around here... plus posting actual visual evidence, I imagine I could be rubbing a couple of you the wrong way. I see your point. Your visual evidence is complete crap so I wouldn't be screaming about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 http://www.latimes.com/sports/lat-redwings...0,5726880.photo Did Staal get two for diving on this play? Jordan Staal: not doing enough. This is funny: I did a Google image search for "Jordan Staal" and at the top of the screen, it said: "Related searches: sidney crosby " Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BewareThePenguin 1 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 It's all total bulls***, the NHL we all knew and loved is basically now the WWF. Of course bettman and his minions will be hard at work giving the pen(i)s every advantage they can. Not only do they want their choad-licking golden boy and his whining, tantrum-throwing sideprick to win they don't want to miss the revenue of extra games by allowing the Wings to sweep. It's a joke and all part of the grand bettman soap opera. Just wait, you'll see. I wouldn't argue that it already started with allowing milkin' to play tonight, but we're sure to see some bulls*** along the lines of brad watsonry or o'halloranigans. It's ridiculous that anyone thinks the "new NHL" is anything but a big f***-job with buttman at the wheel. Every time I hear the words "the league" or "commisioner bettman" I have to choke back the rising puke in anticipation of whatever is about to follow. I wanted to buy my dad a Winter Classic jersey or something this year for Father's Day, but there is no way I will support the NHL with any money until buttman and his ilk are gone. http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/up...tinfoil-hat.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BewareThePenguin 1 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Did Staal get two for diving on this play? Jordan Staal: not doing enough. This is funny: I did a Google image search for "Jordan Staal" and at the top of the screen, it said: "Related searches: sidney crosby " Nah, think he's just trying to recover the stick whack to the head Osgood got away with. Or that other spear he took from the Detroit player. You know the Osgood play I'm talking about, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selke13 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 If they're going to call the penalties then it has to go both ways. I look forward to seeing Hal Gill in the box tonight. :thumbup: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Fan_In_Exile 3 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) I was pleasantly surprised with the amount of 5 on 5 hockey in the first two games. That's how playoff hockey should be in my book. And neither Babcock nor Blysma complained about the calls. I think the standard that’s been called in the game has been fair..as a coach, you can go through the game and say that was a penalty, that wasn’t a penalty. But if you’re honest, you can usually say that about both sides...So I think the standard on the ice has been pretty consistent for both teams-Bylsma Bylsma interview I think there were so many penalties in previous rounds they only called part of them anyway. So if you just think about - I don’t think it’s fallen off one bit. But maybe in the previous rounds there was 24 penalties every game, so they only called part of it.-Babcock Babcock interview While I'd prefer the "let them play style", I will agree that I saw penalties on BOTH sides go uncalled... so hopefully, IF more calls happen, they go both ways. *edit for links* Edited June 2, 2009 by Wings_Fan_In_Exile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Nah, think he's just trying to recover the stick whack to the head Osgood got away with. Or that other spear he took from the Detroit player. You know the Osgood play I'm talking about, right? You mean the one where Osgood was clearing the puck around the back of the net and Staal cut sharp to head behind the net and skated right into Osgood's stick? You mean that one? How would you like to spin that one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) Did Staal get two for diving on this play? Jordan Staal: not doing enough. This is funny: I did a Google image search for "Jordan Staal" and at the top of the screen, it said: "Related searches: sidney crosby " I did one too and found this: Malkin is cheating on Crosby with Staal.. I bet this got Sid crying. Edited June 2, 2009 by Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjlegend 155 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 You mean the one where Osgood was clearing the puck around the back of the net and Staal cut sharp to head behind the net and skated right into Osgood's stick? You mean that one? How would you like to spin that one? Mike, Mike, Mike, when are we going to realize Bylsma, Babcock, independant observers and pundits don't know as much about hockey rules as BTP? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stiffy 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 F**k the NHL. Those first 2 games are exactly what the Cup Finals should be about. Up and down action, 5 on 5 play, and minimal whistles to interrupt the flow and speed of the game. I guess it only made sense that the league wanted to worsen all that. Of course this favors the Pens, because our great 5 on 5 team defense can't do much if Crosby and Malkin have more room on the ice for the PP. It'd be nice if our PK didn't suck all year, but fact is that it does. Come on, nothing would have made those games more exciting than a rash of holding and interference calls. You know, the ones where the replay has to be slowed way down in order to show how the players gloved index hand lightly brushed the opposing players thigh or elbow... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snazzy 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) No, you don't. The Pens player hit Hossa squared-up and forward. That's call establishing body position. He then skated on, in the same path. Samuellson didn't have the same established position when he blocked Malkin -- he only picked him to keep him from preventing him from blocking the other Wings' players shot. That's otherwise known as a "screen" and a big fat no-no. See the diff? Imagine how you'd be howling if say, Guerin nudged Zetterberg away to free Crosby for a slap shot. Wow do I have to teach everybody the rules here? And just in case you think it's just me blowing smoke -- go back to the game replay. Even the announcer said Samuellson got away with interference. I posted 5 different infractions, yet you keep coming back to this one. We get it, it's only a "legit" call if it's against the Wings, Pens don't ever "obstruct" or "interfere", ever! Please stop crying Edited June 2, 2009 by Snazzy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankZetty 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Why can't you just admit that you can't beat us 5 on 5. You need to have at least 4 pp per period with at least one 5 on 3 in there in order to beat us. Pitts NEVER does anything that they get away with they are angels...the best players that ALWAYS play by the book. We...well the Wings do EVERYTHING wrong...we get away with EVERYTHING. We can beat you 5 on 5 you can't beat us...so you need to complain on not having enough pp cuz you can't win without having at least on 5 on 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PenaltyShot 96 521 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) There's a place in the world for the angry young man With his working class ties and his radical plans He refuses to bend, he refuses to crawl and he's always at home with his back to the wall. He's proud of the scars and the battles he's lost He struggles and bleeds as he hangs on his cross And he likes to be known as the angry young man. Give a moment or two to the angry young man With his foot in his mouth and his heart in his hand He's been stabbed in the back, he's been misunderstood It's a comfort to know his intentions are good He sits in a room with a lock on the door with his maps and his medals laid out of the floor And he likes to be known as the angry young man. And there's always a place for the angry young man With his fist in the air and his head in the sand He's never been able to learn from mistakes So he can't understand why his heart always breaks His honor is pure, and his courage as well he's fair and he's true, and he's boring as hell And he'll go to his grave as an angry old man. Edited June 2, 2009 by PenaltyShot 96 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
58Miles2Joe 12 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 conspiracy? proof is in the pudding Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoDakWing 8 Report post Posted June 3, 2009 conspiracy? proof is in the pudding Nope the wings are Lazy and they SUCK /thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
