wingsownnhl43 14 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 I think we should take notice to what helped Pittsburgh win this series. I know they lost out on Hossa, but bringing in players like Fedotenko, Guerin, and Kunitz helped them big time. It was players like Fedotenko, Talbot, Staal, and Kunitz that helped them grind out a victory because it certainly wasnt Malkin or Crosby that won them this series. I say we follow suit. We need to let go of Hudler and Samuelsson. We already have highly skilled players on our top two lines such as Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Filppula, and Franzen. It was the third line matchup of Staal and Talbot that dominated Hudler and Samuelsson. Hudler and Sammy are very easy to play against. We need to insert high energy, defensive minded, physical players on our third and fourth lines. Helm, and Abdelkader will work nicely, but a player like Laperriere would be a great fit. Ian Laperriere is the type of player, when youre against him, gives you headaches. He is a physical player that has a lot of energy. He would be a great fit on the third line with Helm, and maybe another guy like them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 Grier, Moen, Neil... there is a plenty of choice... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canadian_Yzerman_Fan 7 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 I agree.... I think he'd do well here. He also has a knack for getting timely goals. What is his contract status? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsownnhl43 14 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 Todd Marchant would also be a nice choice. He played a nice series against us in the Anaheim series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsownnhl43 14 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 I agree.... I think he'd do well here. He also has a knack for getting timely goals. What is his contract status? http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_12573949 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 I agree.... I think he'd do well here. He also has a knack for getting timely goals. What is his contract status? 2009/2010 UFA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOwl 77 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 I really hope Holland gets some new blood in the roster, not just replacing Sammy, Hudler and Hossa with GR guys. Get some cheap UFA's. And really, I would be very happy if Holland got rid of one of the top 4 D guys. All 4 played pretty badly in the finals, and all 4 of huge cap hits. Hudler will be lost for sure since the Wings can't match any medium offer, Sammy could be replaced easily, as can Kopetsky. Goaltending will be another challenge. Conklin will probably get a starter position somewhere else, Osgood probably doesn't want to play more then 50 games in the regular season. Let Howard and Larrson rotate in for the first half, and keep the one who plays better. How the top 6 D comes together will also be interesting. Meech, Ericcson are probably ready to be rookies, Andreas improved but may not be ready. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mule 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 Get it done, Kenny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xBrave_Heartx 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 If we can find the cash, im all for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsownnhl43 14 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 I wholeheartedly agree with you, Owl. As long as we keep the core of Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Franzen, Filppula, Cleary, Lidstrom, Kronwall, Ericcson, Osgood... this roster can be toyed with without faltering. I would like to get bigger and more agressivie on D. I would not be opposed to trying to get either Rafalski or Stuart to waive their no trade clause and go after a Bouwmeester. Getting Lilja back in the lineup, and having Ericcson in his sophomore year will improve our D dramatically. We need to do a better job clearing the front of the net. I couldnt even count how many times our D was out muscled in front of the net. We need to inject some new energy into the lineup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selke13 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 Grier, Moen, Neil... there is a plenty of choice... id like to see grier, hes tough and has a bit o skill too. probably more than malty, draper, kopes, and _____. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 Lappy would be my first choice. Absolutely love the guy, even after he hurt Lids last year, if not him, Moen or Neil would be great here. No need for a Kopecky anymore, young blood and too many quality FA grinders this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 I really hope Holland gets some new blood in the roster, not just replacing Sammy, Hudler and Hossa with GR guys. Get some cheap UFA's. And really, I would be very happy if Holland got rid of one of the top 4 D guys. All 4 played pretty badly in the finals, and all 4 of huge cap hits. Hudler will be lost for sure since the Wings can't match any medium offer, Sammy could be replaced easily, as can Kopetsky. Goaltending will be another challenge. Conklin will probably get a starter position somewhere else, Osgood probably doesn't want to play more then 50 games in the regular season. Let Howard and Larrson rotate in for the first half, and keep the one who plays better. How the top 6 D comes together will also be interesting. Meech, Ericcson are probably ready to be rookies, Andreas improved but may not be ready. I was under the impression that Howard is out of options, so rotating him and Larsson wouldn't be possible. I agree that Hudler will be lost to an offer sheet, and that Ericsson is ready. I'm not sure how I feel about Lappy. I have an Avs-fan friend who thinks he's great, but I think there are better FA's out there. I like Grier, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hurtingwingsfan 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 I was under the impression that Howard is out of options, so rotating him and Larsson wouldn't be possible. I agree that Hudler will be lost to an offer sheet, and that Ericsson is ready. I'm not sure how I feel about Lappy. I have an Avs-fan friend who thinks he's great, but I think there are better FA's out there. I like Grier, though. How about a guy like winchester, I personally cannot stand him but that is the kind of guy we need a Dallas Drake type player Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 id like to see grier, hes tough and has a bit o skill too. probably more than malty, draper, kopes, and _____. I almost kill to see Grier and Lappy here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonan78 1 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 Hadn't thought about Laperriere, not a bad idea. My only concern is his age, but he's only a year older than Grier, so I could go either way. We definitely need to go out and get a UFA grinder/scrapper for 1 million or less, that is one role that none of our prospects are ready to fill. Some of the other names that are being mentioned, Moen, Marchant, Neil, and such means that there are plenty to pick from, we just need to find the one whose personality fits the team the best, my pick would be Grier, but then again I'm not the GM, am I? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hurtingwingsfan 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 Greir would be a mistake he is exactly like Holmstrom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,131 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 with Lappy rejeting the avs offer, I doub he will come here. He is looking for a raise from last season and that is too much for us to pay. With Hossa all but signed, that takes about $6million off what we can afford, gonna be tight unless we can convince Draper, Maltby to retire and trade Rafi or Kronner (rafi being the first choice obviousy because of the cap hit. Trade him and re-sgn Hossa, that still allows us $9million for others.) Let Hudler go and get the picks in return. One he scored his 20th, he did nothing, especilly in the playoffs. If Lilja is done too, we'll definately have room to sign someone or two, but not for a lot. If can convince Draper and Maltby to retire, convince Rafi to waive his no trade clause and Lilja cannot return, then that is another $9.65million for us under the cap. Add the $9.4million we already have thats $19.05 million to get this roster changed! $6million for Hossa $3million (roughly) for Helm, Abdelkader, Howard & Leino $500,000 for Downey That would give us $10 million for a UFA or two in July. We'll have a 1st and a 3rd round pick for Hudler, probably a first for Rafi (or maybe a player and a first.) You could throw a couple of million at a couple of people and STILL have money for that trade deadline (which also hurt us this year) With thatbeing said, we prolly won't see any of our top 4 d-men being traded, and Maltby, Draper will be able to play out their contracts. We'll sign Hossa and bring up the griffins and be right at the cap all year again, with no wiggle room at all.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,131 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 Greir would be a mistake he is exactly like Holmstrom Amen! Any of the other mentioned players before Grier.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted June 13, 2009 I think Lappy declined the Av's offer because the Av's management is just horrible, I mean absolutely horrible. I doubt it was as much about the money instead of actually playing for a coherent management team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGKEIB 32 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 What's wrong with the Avs front office? I'd like Lappy. I don't like him, which in a weird way means I'd love to have him on my side. Lots of other candidates - Grier, NEIL, and what about Asham? As far as I'm concerned, much more effective than 'Rile. E Coyote'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 What's wrong with the Avs front office? Eh. The whole Granato situation that and just going from a top team to a last place team. I figure that would weigh into his decision as a aging vet. Just my speculation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snazzy 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Questions to ask yourself is: Can he skate / speed? Is he solid defensively? Does he keep his stick on the ice to take away passes and find interceptions? Is he strong on the puck? Can he play the puck possession game i.e. pass, take passes? I must say, Staal was the biggest problem for the Wings in the finals. I would like to see a player like him on the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGKEIB 32 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Eh. The whole Granato situation that and just going from a top team to a last place team. I figure that would weigh into his decision as a aging vet. Just my speculation. No way you could know, but I was laying on the sarcasm... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsownnhl43 14 Report post Posted June 15, 2009 Kenny, for the love of god, get this guy signed. He is exactly what we need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
