wingsownnhl43 14 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 First off this site is awesome. http://www.capgeek.com/cap_calculator.php?Team=26 It shows Pittsburgh Penguins salary cap situation for next season. They have to fill 9 spots with 10.7 million in cap room. Notable players not under contract for next season. F Bill Guerin F Ruslan Fedotenko F Petr Sykora F Miroslav Satan F Craig Adams D Kris Letang D Rob Scuderi D Hal Gill D Phillipe Boucher G Mathieu Garon I would think Guerin and Fedotenko would sign back with them for less money than their current 4.5 and 3.5 million dollar salaries. Conversley, I would think Letang and Scuderi would get raises from their salaries, both around .7. Just interesting to look at. Pittsburgh has their own cap issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.ph...t=0&start=0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsownnhl43 14 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Also looking at Anaheims. They have a ton of cap room. 6 spots 16 million in cap room. They could be scary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimaline312000 51 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 I think it's safe to say that we won't be seeing Pittsburgh or Detroit in the Finals next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 I think it's safe to say that we won't be seeing Pittsburgh or Detroit in the Finals next season. It would be amazing if either of them got back there next year. How often does the same team make it to the final 3 years in a row? Can't have happened since the 80's. That said, it's not impossible. The Wings won't have a much different team next year. In a way they might even be improved, with guys like Helm and Ericsson on the team full-time. The Pens will probably have a tougher time. But if they can find hungry players to replace the guys they'll lose they could negate the cup hangover and be dangerous next year as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
87to71 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 It would be nice to see a guy like Heatley take less in order to play for the Penguins since he wants out of Ottawa but it would take a lot to make that happen...Guerin will probably retire,Gill,Satan,Boucher, and Sykora wont be back. Fedotenko,Adams and especially Letang and Scuderi will all be back. The Penguins will be fine and have an excellent chance to make another run next year again. When you're strong down the middle like the Pens are with Crosby,Malkin,Staal,and Fleury in the net you are in good shape to compete for Cups for many years which is what this Penguins team is going to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUkrainian 49 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 I would think Guerin and Fedotenko would sign back with them for less money than their current 4.5 and 3.5 million dollar salaries. Conversley, I would think Letang and Scuderi would get raises from their salaries, both around .7. I actually think that Fedotenko would go where he would get the highest offer and still have a chance to compete. He's 30 and has already won 2 cups. Most people who take cuts are older guys who haven't won the cup yet. Not sure about what Guerin would do though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snazzy 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Wow, the future of Pittsburgh Penguins doesn't look so bright. It'll be hard for them to retain decent players when they overpay their core and have a subpar goalie with a big contract. I think the East teams will bulk up and Pens will bulk down. I wouldn't bet they even make the playoffs next year. A lot of upcoming quality teams in the East. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
87to71 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Wow, the future of Pittsburgh Penguins doesn't look so bright. It'll be hard for them to retain decent players when they overpay their core and have a subpar goalie with a big contract. I think the East teams will bulk up and Pens will bulk down. I wouldn't bet they even make the playoffs next year. A lot of upcoming quality teams in the East. Yea we heard the same exact thing last year too dude after they lost to Detroit mainly from idiot Flyers fans about how the Penguins were done and they will never have this good of a team again. Crosby is 22,Malkin is 23,Staal is going to be 21,and Fleury is 24. Crosby and Malkin didnt take near as much money as they could longterm to stay here if you look up the numbers instead of just assuming since you're ignorant that they did. A lot of free agents and big name players want to come play with guys like Crosby and Malkin and I'm sure Shero will find a way to bulk up both lines for Crosby and Malkin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 It would be nice to see a guy like Heatley take less in order to play for the Penguins since he wants out of Ottawa but it would take a lot to make that happen...Guerin will probably retire,Gill,Satan,Boucher, and Sykora wont be back. Fedotenko,Adams and especially Letang and Scuderi will all be back. The Penguins will be fine and have an excellent chance to make another run next year again. When you're strong down the middle like the Pens are with Crosby,Malkin,Staal,and Fleury in the net you are in good shape to compete for Cups for many years which is what this Penguins team is going to do. He is under contract for 7.5million for the next four years plus the team would be on the hook for his 4million dollar bonus this season if he's traded before July 1st. Before you start calling out other people for not checking the numbers you might want to take your own advice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceMunkee 15 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 It would be nice to see a guy like Heatley take less in order to play for the Penguins since he wants out of Ottawa but it would take a lot to make that happen...Guerin will probably retire,Gill,Satan,Boucher, and Sykora wont be back. Fedotenko,Adams and especially Letang and Scuderi will all be back. The Penguins will be fine and have an excellent chance to make another run next year again. When you're strong down the middle like the Pens are with Crosby,Malkin,Staal,and Fleury in the net you are in good shape to compete for Cups for many years which is what this Penguins team is going to do. Hey man, I know your jump onto the bandwagon was very recent but listen up you beautiful b*tch cause I am about to f you up with some truth. YOU CANNOT TAKE A DISCOUNT IF YOUR ALREADY UNDER CONTRACT! Okay, Pittsburg, class is dismissed. See you again at 9 am for another lesson. For tomorrow's lesson we are going to cover Tradition and Leadership. So please read Chapter 2 and 3. Be sure to study up on Steve Yzerman... Cause this whole class is failing the Leadership portion... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyphoenix 153 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 (edited) 87to71 seems to forget that about halfway through the season the Penguins were in 9th in the East and behind the Florida Panthers. Its not like they were good all year. They had to fire their coach and get a few role players to compliment Malkin and Crosby in order to make it to the playoffs. I dont see them making a great run to the finals next year. Edited June 14, 2009 by skyphoenix Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
87to71 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 87to71 seems to forget that about halfway through the season the Penguins were in 9th in the East and behind the Florida Panthers. Its not like they were good all year. They had to fire their coach and get a few role players to compliment Malkin and Crosby in order to make it to the playoffs. I dont see them making a great run to the finals next year. It makes winning the Cup all the more sweeter seeing how much adversity and all the obstacles the Pens had to overcome in order to win the Stanley Cup. You dont go from 10th place in the East in mid February all the way to winning a Stanley Cup championship without having a lot of character in that locker room. What Dan Bylsma did with this Penguins team when he took over in mid-February I believe is one of the greatest turnarounds in the history of the National Hockey League. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyphoenix 153 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 It makes winning the Cup all the more sweeter seeing how much adversity and all the obstacles the Pens had to overcome in order to win the Stanley Cup. You dont go from 10th place in the East in mid February all the way to winning a Stanley Cup championship without having a lot of character in that locker room. What Dan Bylsma did with this Penguins team when he took over in mid-February I believe is one of the greatest turnarounds in the history of the National Hockey League. Yeah, it is an amazing turnaround because honestly if they stayed with Therrien...I doubt the Penguins would have made the playoffs. But that just proves my point. You cant have Staal, Crosby, Malkin, and Fleury carry the team because you had those core players and you were in 9th place. You need the right role players to compliment them or else its not going to work. Approaching cap problems is where your GM comes into play and if he makes the right moves then the Pens probably could contend for another few years but if he makes mistakes, it could cost the team dearly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
87to71 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Yeah, it is an amazing turnaround because honestly if they stayed with Therrien...I doubt the Penguins would have made the playoffs. But that just proves my point. You cant have Staal, Crosby, Malkin, and Fleury carry the team because you had those core players and you were in 9th place. You need the right role players to compliment them or else its not going to work. Approaching cap problems is where your GM comes into play and if he makes the right moves then the Pens probably could contend for another few years but if he makes mistakes, it could cost the team dearly. A full season of Dan Bylsma as the Pens coach combined with players now wanting to come here that are free agents in order to have a chance to win the Cup is a scary scary thought for next season. Had Bylsma been the coach of this Pens team all season they would have been one of the top 2 teams in the East easily... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chunkylover 26 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 A full season of Dan Bylsma as the Pens coach combined with players now wanting to come here that are free agents in order to have a chance to win the Cup is a scary scary thought for next season. Had Bylsma been the coach of this Pens team all season they would have been one of the top 2 teams in the East easily... The Wings had Mike Babcock all season and played loosey-goosey during the regular season and couldn't win the Cup in two tries. A team can have a great coach and struggle. It's tough to repeat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Rosenrosen 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Hey man, I know your jump onto the bandwagon was very recent but listen up you beautiful b*tch cause I am about to f you up with some truth. YOU CANNOT TAKE A DISCOUNT IF YOUR ALREADY UNDER CONTRACT! Okay, Pittsburg, class is dismissed. See you again at 9 am for another lesson. For tomorrow's lesson we are going to cover Tradition and Leadership. So please read Chapter 2 and 3. Be sure to study up on Steve Yzerman... Cause this whole class is failing the Leadership portion... Before you try to teach, you should learn to spell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottyniedermayer 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 I think it's safe to say that we won't be seeing Pittsburgh or Detroit in the Finals next season. yeah, with all those old players you won't get by the younger and better skating ducks. sorry, we'll get a second line center to complement selanne and we have a couple of young kids in mitera and gardiner who could make the club. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datterberg1340 626 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 The Wings had Mike Babcock all season and played loosey-goosey during the regular season and couldn't win the Cup in two tries. A team can have a great coach and struggle. It's tough to repeat. Indeed. Right now it's easy for Pens fans to say that they can repeat, and they could, but that's what every team starts to think after winning it the first time. I remember Ken Hitchcock saying after Dallas won in '99 that he'd been studying up on dynasties and he was confident they'd win a couple more Cups in a row. They did make the finals again, but lost and haven't been back since. Everything needs to go your way, you need the bounces, the team to stay healthy and hungry and determined. The Pens had all that going for them, and of course played well too, but you need more than that. They made an improbable comeback that hadn't happened for almost 40 years, and a situation like that may not happen again for another 40. Also they did benefit from playing a tired and banged up Wings team that ran out of gas and couldn't match the Pens determination, patience, and hunger. That and getting some big breaks from the refs at crucial times. I'm not saying the Wings didn't get any breaks either, but several calls and non-calls really ended up benefiting the Pens. And a team needs those kind of breaks to go their way. The chances of everything going your way 2 years in a row are just not good, just ask any Wings fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 Before you try to teach, you should learn to spell. I already knew this, so...from wikipedia dot com. Pittsburgh was officially named with its present spelling on April 22, 1794, by an act of the Pennsylvania Department, stating, "Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, in General Assembly met, and it is hereby enacted by the authority of the same, that the said town of Pittsburgh shall be, and the same is hereby, erected into a borough, which shall be called the borough of Pittsburgh for ever." Pittsburgh is one of the few American cities to be spelled with an h at the end of a burg suffix. This style is commonly used for many other cities and towns of Western Pennsylvania. While briefly referred to as "Pittsburg" during the late 19th century, the Pittsburgh spelling was officially restored in 1911 after a public campaign by the citizens of the city. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FedorovMan91 1 Report post Posted June 14, 2009 I don't see how the Wings will go to the Final again next year. Probably after 2 years from now, I think we can go. Lidstrom is coming to the end of his career and Osgood is going to retire soon too. We may need a serious surgery to make the Wings being the best team in the league. Osgood-> Howard or Larsson Lidstrom-> Ericsson Rafalski-> Bouwmeester ( I hope this happens...) Draper-> Helm Hudler-> Leino I think the worst cap situation right now is the Senators. Their top 3 forwards: Alfie, Spezza, Heater, eat up around 20 million cap per year. So easy to shut down one line team. In the past, they sent away Comrie. For Pittsburgh, little bit different but I think they will be in a big hole too. Malkin, Staal, and Crosby eat up around 22.5 million cap per year. Besides, Gonchar's prime is probably gonna end next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted June 15, 2009 The Penguins will be fine and have an excellent chance to make another run next year again. When you're strong down the middle like the Pens are with Crosby,Malkin,Staal,and Fleury in the net you are in good shape to compete for Cups for many years which is what this Penguins team is going to do. We could see more Detroit-Pittsburgh Finals in the future. The Wings are in great shape too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted June 15, 2009 I don't see how the Wings will go to the Final again next year. Probably after 2 years from now, I think we can go. Don't forget the Olympics in 2009-10. A good number of our guys will be asked to play there too, to add to our 63 playoffs games the last 3 years. I hope many of our guys pass on the Olympics for a much needed break. We can piss off Bettman again! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
