titanium2 867 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2009/07/re...land_on_at.html Somewhat implies that he will be on the roster next year. "Leino, Abdelkader and Helm are ready. We think Valteri Filppula, at age 25, can take a step forward. Jiri Hudler can take a step forward. We have a power forward we like in Franzen and two elite players in Zetterberg and Pavel Datsyuk. That's the cap world. The cap world is not designed for you to have these guys and go get a Hossa. The salary cap is working: It's a level playing field." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 abby is ready. he played great in the time he was given in the playoffs. helm and leino, as well as ericsson were already guaranteed spots on the wings next season....and they will be alot more comfortable next post-season with an entire regular season under their belts to adjust more to the nhl speed and toughness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Dats 'N Homer 81 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2009/07/re...land_on_at.html Somewhat implies that he will be on the roster next year. "Leino, Abdelkader and Helm are ready. We think Valteri Filppula, at age 25, can take a step forward. Jiri Hudler can take a step forward. We have a power forward we like in Franzen and two elite players in Zetterberg and Pavel Datsyuk. That's the cap world. The cap world is not designed for you to have these guys and go get a Hossa. The salary cap is working: It's a level playing field." As much as the truth hurts....it is the truth. This is the cap world. We had Dats Z and Hossa last year and it was great. But realistically it cant be a long term thing. Its Chicagos turn to try and see what they can do with Toews Kane and Hossa (again this is a one year thing as they are sure to lose either Kane or Toews to free agency next year). With that said, im glad out young guys are ganna get the chance to place. Im excited to see how Helm steps up as a starter. The guy FLIES on he ice. I think he might be able to help ese the pain of losing Hossa. Im not saying hes ganna score 40 goals, but hes ganna playsome Two way hockey and putsome points up on the board. Same with Leino and Abby is a young Maltby. Likes to hit and can put some points up. Im sad that we lost our ALL STAR caliber player in Hossa, but its time to get back to what the wings are used to, role players that make a difference. Here we come! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman54 91 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 Id love Abs to play! the younger the blood, the better. Detroit is finally turning young. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetts 236 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 That's interesting, a few weeks ago he specifically said Abdelkader would NOT be on the roster. I'm guessing that may have changed because of all of the players we've lost... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
numberthirtynine 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 Ah Kenny you're so professional lol. The cap world works but we give out so many hometown discounts and it makes us the best team in the league. He's being modest but the man knows how to work the cap. We couldn't keep Hossa but meh, no big deal. I think Abs is coming up. Helm and Leino too. It's time. s*** or get off the pot. May as well bring them up now, they played well and the AHL can only give a player so much. They're all ready to get on a team of superstars and get experience. At this point, I can't think of many reasons why not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 I'd like for Abby to get a new number. 8 doesn't seem right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 That's interesting, a few weeks ago he specifically said Abdelkader would NOT be on the roster. I'm guessing that may have changed because of all of the players we've lost... it's for the best... and abby is better than maltby, even a young maltby same with helm and draper. i hope leino turns out to play alot like feds if he can begin to excel at the art of 2 way wings hockey. alot of good things to come from this kid WE hope. ericsson will continue to improve. lots of good from him already. and howard....let's see what he can do. let's give him a legitimate chance, cause he hasn't got one yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snazzy 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2009/07/re...land_on_at.html Somewhat implies that he will be on the roster next year. "Leino, Abdelkader and Helm are ready. We think Valteri Filppula, at age 25, can take a step forward. Jiri Hudler can take a step forward. We have a power forward we like in Franzen and two elite players in Zetterberg and Pavel Datsyuk. That's the cap world. The cap world is not designed for you to have these guys and go get a Hossa. The salary cap is working: It's a level playing field." Is Kenny implying that Huds will be back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snazzy 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 it's for the best... and abby is better than maltby, even a young maltby same with helm and draper. i hope leino turns out to play alot like feds if he can begin to excel at the art of 2 way wings hockey. alot of good things to come from this kid WE hope. ericsson will continue to improve. lots of good from him already. and howard....let's see what he can do. let's give him a legitimate chance, cause he hasn't got one yet. Huh? Do you mean Fedorov? Leino doesn't even have a quarter the skating ability as feds has... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 I'd like for Abby to get a new number. 8 doesn't seem right. just not 88 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 and abby is better than maltby, even a young maltby Abby shouldn't be compared to Maltby. Abby's game doesn't involve him being a wuss by severe conscious choice. If you had to pick a Red Wing, it's McCarty because Abby has some potential for the top-6 but will probably just play on the 3rd/4th line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 just not 88 Not a fan of Chicago's version of whiny face? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 Huh? Do you mean Fedorov? Leino doesn't even have a quarter the skating ability as feds has... yes i mean federov. and there was an "if" in my statement. i'm aware he doesn't skate like federov, but not many do. i just see some of federov's qualities in leino when he's played, aside from the playoffs where he was not bad, but looked nervous and mildly overwhelmed. but that's what happens when you play 13 reg season games and get tossed in to the mix in the playoffs. and when you're a natural scorer playing shutdown on the 4th line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlakKy 58 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 Abby should get another season of first line minutes again. Bring him up in the playoffs or near the end of the season again to replace the injured/tired Maltby/Draper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 Abby shouldn't be compared to Maltby. Abby's game doesn't involve him being a wuss by severe conscious choice. If you had to pick a Red Wing, it's McCarty because Abby has some potential for the top-6 but will probably just play on the 3rd/4th line. good point, he has more skill too Not a fan of Chicago's version of whiny face? lol...but i was referring to lindros. i also hate it when people call ericsson "big E" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 (edited) http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2009/07/re...land_on_at.html Somewhat implies that he will be on the roster next year. "Leino, Abdelkader and Helm are ready. We think Valteri Filppula, at age 25, can take a step forward. Jiri Hudler can take a step forward. We have a power forward we like in Franzen and two elite players in Zetterberg and Pavel Datsyuk. That's the cap world. The cap world is not designed for you to have these guys and go get a Hossa. The salary cap is working: It's a level playing field." Well I guess he's prepared to have 5 rookies on the roster (which is fine with me- this is the reality of the cap for the Wings right now, plus they can send some of them down to the AHL and replace them with veteran players they make a trade for). Here's what I think the roster will look like then: -->Leino signs a 2 year deal at $900,000 per year. -->Holland convinces Hudler to take $2,250,000 a year for 3 years (or less, he might only get him to accept a one year deal with the promise that Hudler will get more money once Lidstrom's and Holmstrom's salaries drop). -->Lebda is traded or, if Lilja is on LTIR all season Lebda takes his place on the roster. This scenario only leaves $138,132 in cap space. If he's happy switching Lilja for Lebda that cap space opens up to $738,132. I'd like to figure out some way of making it possible to get Hudler signed to the identical deal as Filppula, but that'd require dropping Lilja for Lebda and would leave virtually zero cap room for short-term injury replacements. Here's the roster we'd see under that scenario: Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Cleary Franzen-Filppula-Hudler Leino-Helm-Holmstrom Maltby-Draper-Abdelkader Lidstrom-Rafalski Kronwall-Stuart Ericsson-Lilja Meech Osgood Howard Edit: Ryan Oulahen is out of minor league options as well and his cap hit is only $522,500. That saves more than $200,000 compared to Abdelkader, and gives us a more capable penalty killer and shut-down guy. Edited July 3, 2009 by Drake_Marcus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted July 3, 2009 (edited) Destroy the freakin cap.. it sucks so hard. Edited July 3, 2009 by mindfly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snazzy 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 Well I guess he's prepared to have 5 rookies on the roster (which is fine with me- this is the reality of the cap for the Wings right now, plus they can send some of them down to the AHL and replace them with veteran players they make a trade for). Here's what I think the roster will look like then: -->Leino signs a 2 year deal at $900,000 per year. -->Holland convinces Hudler to take $2,250,000 a year for 3 years (or less, he might only get him to accept a one year deal with the promise that Hudler will get more money once Lidstrom's and Holmstrom's salaries drop). -->Lebda is traded or, if Lilja is on LTIR all season Lebda takes his place on the roster. This scenario only leaves $138,132 in cap space. If he's happy switching Lilja for Lebda that cap space opens up to $738,132. I'd like to figure out some way of making it possible to get Hudler signed to the identical deal as Filppula, but that'd require dropping Lilja for Lebda and would leave virtually zero cap room for short-term injury replacements. Here's the roster we'd see under that scenario: Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Cleary Franzen-Filppula-Hudler Leino-Helm-Holmstrom Maltby-Draper-Abdelkader Lidstrom-Rafalski Kronwall-Stuart Ericsson-Lilja Meech Osgood Howard We look to be in very good shape the way you listed it. Wings (IMOH) have made the best signing in the league with the Frazen for 3.9 million. P.S. Thank god for Meech, he's a blessing to have! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motown4013 350 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 Abby shouldn't be compared to Maltby. Abby's game doesn't involve him being a wuss by severe conscious choice. If you had to pick a Red Wing, it's McCarty because Abby has some potential for the top-6 but will probably just play on the 3rd/4th line. I dont think McCarty...maybe a young bigger Dallas Drake? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 We look to be in very good shape the way you listed it. Wings (IMOH) have made the best signing in the league with the Frazen for 3.9 million. P.S. Thank god for Meech, he's a blessing to have! Yeah, I forgot that Leino has to get a raise according to the CBA, so I'll have to redo the numbers with that raise in mind. I'll post that in a few mins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EuroTwin 240 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 Id love Abs to play! the younger the blood, the better. Detroit is finally turning young. LOL, the second they said Cheli wouldn't be back we dropped at least ten years off our team's average age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,152 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 Well I guess he's prepared to have 5 rookies on the roster (which is fine with me- this is the reality of the cap for the Wings right now, plus they can send some of them down to the AHL and replace them with veteran players they make a trade for). Here's what I think the roster will look like then: -->Leino signs a 2 year deal at $900,000 per year. -->Holland convinces Hudler to take $2,250,000 a year for 3 years (or less, he might only get him to accept a one year deal with the promise that Hudler will get more money once Lidstrom's and Holmstrom's salaries drop). -->Lebda is traded or, if Lilja is on LTIR all season Lebda takes his place on the roster. This scenario only leaves $138,132 in cap space. If he's happy switching Lilja for Lebda that cap space opens up to $738,132. I'd like to figure out some way of making it possible to get Hudler signed to the identical deal as Filppula, but that'd require dropping Lilja for Lebda and would leave virtually zero cap room for short-term injury replacements. Here's the roster we'd see under that scenario: Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Cleary Franzen-Filppula-Hudler Leino-Helm-Holmstrom Maltby-Draper-Abdelkader Lidstrom-Rafalski Kronwall-Stuart Ericsson-Lilja Meech Osgood Howard Edit: Ryan Oulahen is out of minor league options as well and his cap hit is only $522,500. That saves more than $200,000 compared to Abdelkader, and gives us a more capable penalty killer and shut-down guy. Woooooo, how is this guy, how come he has never been mentioned on the roster before? How do you find out who has and hasn't got minor league options? Is he someone Holland is keeping or plan on giving a roster spot this season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HudlerFanatic 4 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 Well....if what I just saw is right, according to capgeek...Abs is signed for the 09/10 season RFA in 10/11 for $850,000 w/ bonuses included in cap hit.... http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=15 Yesterday it was 19 signed w/ 4 open and now it's 20 w/ 3..... but I haven't seen any articles regarding it... But I'm happy about it! I like him, and I think it's time for him to have a roster sopt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 I dont think McCarty...maybe a young bigger Dallas Drake? Let's say a cross between the two. Drake was a kamikaze hitter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
