Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 21, 2009 Whats funny is that guy like Talbot lead Pens to a series victory... and not talent like Crosby... Shhh, people dont want to hear that, will make them think twice. Malkin won the Conn Smythe, thats all that counts!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted July 21, 2009 No wonder we let Joey go- he's a fighter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted July 21, 2009 WE NEED CHAINSAWS!!!!! This. (I'm waiting for someone to call you a softy so you can point out that you're an American soldier and they can do a complete 180) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted July 21, 2009 I genuinely fear Philadelphia and Toronto this year. I see Chicago really trying to goon it up these 6 games. I see some crease-crashing craziness this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted July 21, 2009 I genuinely fear Philadelphia and Toronto this year. I see Chicago really trying to goon it up these 6 games. I see some crease-crashing craziness this year. The Pens have more to worry about those two teams than we do Finally the East is getting tougher. Chicago is welcome to try and goon it up and crash the crease... I'd like to see Ericsson get more crease clearing experience in the NHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted July 21, 2009 Time will tell is Ericcson has what it takes to put big meanies in their place. He's certainly big enough, but he hasn't exactly demonstrated a "take no s***" attitude in the AHL. He's also never fought anyone tough to my knowledge. Paul Brown is the only fighter he ever tangled with, and Jonathan lost that one. granted, that was like 3 or 4 years ago, but still, don't get your hopes up that Ericcson is gonna be keeping the Eagers of the league in check. He's big, he's strong, and he'll go if he has to, but he is not a good fighter. He's pretty much Lilja - a guy who's effort you'll appreciate when he throws down, but he's not gonna be giving anyone nightmares. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGKEIB 32 Report post Posted July 21, 2009 Time will tell is Ericcson has what it takes to put big meanies in their place. He's certainly big enough, but he hasn't exactly demonstrated a "take no s***" attitude in the AHL. He's also never fought anyone tough to my knowledge. Paul Brown is the only fighter he ever tangled with, and Jonathan lost that one. granted, that was like 3 or 4 years ago, but still, don't get your hopes up that Ericcson is gonna be keeping the Eagers of the league in check. He's big, he's strong, and he'll go if he has to, but he is not a good fighter. He's pretty much Lilja - a guy who's effort you'll appreciate when he throws down, but he's not gonna be giving anyone nightmares. I agree. Some people make Ericsson out to be the second coming of Bob Probert, after only seeing him ragdoll Perry. It's a far cry from Perry to some of the bigger, meaner forwards in the league. I'm not sure I even want him fighting that much - a. I don't want him to get injured, esp. after coming off of a wrist injury (see also what happened to Lilja); b. defensemen are too valuable to be guys who fight regularly (in terms of being short a defenseman for 5 minutes, while the other team probably loses a less valuable fourth line forward). There is a difference between him and Lilja not taking crap in the crease, and being relied upon to answer the bell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted July 21, 2009 Problem is though he'll be the only one...Ericsson isn't exactly Probert, or Scott Stevens; nobody is afraid of him. Of course not. The thing about Ericsson is he's got better uses for his hands than swinging them at people. He should be fighting in moderation. I'm thinking like 4 or 5 fights a year? I'm no expert on fighters, but those are more 'spot picking' type numbers, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skacore 2 Report post Posted July 21, 2009 I like how everytime a tough guy is signed, a thread instantly pops up on here containing the following things: He would have fit in well here. Why didn't we sign him? Wake up Kenny! This team is so soft. Here's to missing the playoffs. Sign Downey. We need Moen, Grier or Betts. Our goaltending sucks. Everyone is getting better while we're getting worse. actually it's more like 1 or 2 guys who will say something like that and then 10+ douchebags will come in and mock them because they want to add toughness to our squad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted July 21, 2009 actually it's more like 1 or 2 guys who will say something like that and then 10+ douchebags will come in and mock them because they want to add toughness to our squad True enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted July 21, 2009 Did dominator just say that Talbot LED the Penguins? Rearry? Micah: I pretty much agree with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFX 48 Report post Posted July 21, 2009 You guys are making sound as if Danny Bois will make the Chicago roster next year... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted July 21, 2009 WE NEED CHAINSAWS!!!!! Sig'd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted July 21, 2009 Did dominator just say that Talbot LED the Penguins? Rearry? Micah: I pretty much agree with you. Did I said/wrote something wrong?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted July 22, 2009 I want Perry to die. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2009 Did I said/wrote something wrong?! Yes. Talbot didn't lead the Penguins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGKEIB 32 Report post Posted July 22, 2009 Just might beat the snot outta Kopecky this fall camp, and take his spot in the line-up. Haha. Hawks sign Kopecky in order to attract Hossa, and once Hossa is under contract, they promptly demote Kopecky to the AHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted July 22, 2009 Yes. Talbot didn't lead the Penguins. For your information, Talbot scored MORE GOALS and POINTS in finals than Crosby. For your information, Talbot scored TWICE in game # 7. Think about it again... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManLuv4Clears 7 Report post Posted July 22, 2009 For your information, Talbot scored MORE GOALS and POINTS in finals than Crosby. For your information, Talbot scored TWICE in game # 7. Think about it again... How about this. The Penguins were down 3-0 in game 6 to the Flyers and Talbot went out and took one for the team. I was watching this game live and the announcers mentioned a number of times afterwards that it was a motivator for the team and they in turn went on to win. name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object> &"> name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object> &" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2009 For your information, Talbot scored MORE GOALS and POINTS in finals than Crosby. For your information, Talbot scored TWICE in game # 7. Think about it again... Crosby was shadowed by the Wings best players. Talbot was not. You can say whatever you want about those two games (game seven in the SCF and game six of the quarterfinals), but at the end of the day it was Crosby who led his team as a captain and Malkin who led his team as a forward. Talbot was a great role player, but you are kidding yourself to think he was the sole reason the Penguins won the cup, or even the biggest reason. But please, don't let me stop you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted July 22, 2009 Talbot played a role somewhat similar to Ceary's (most of the time) this playoff go-round. He played better than anyone had a right to expect him to play, even while some of the star players around him were underperforming. I don't agree that Talbot or Cleary "led" their teams exactly, but both certainly set an example for the others on their respective teams, that this is the time to let it all hang out, to sweat blood, to give 100% on every single shift. I don't want to call that leading, but I don't know what else to call it. Of course, Talbot gets major props from me for volunteering for the Carcillo beatdown. He didn't have to. He elected to because someone had to do something to spark the team, and all of his teamates were failing. He stepped up and reminded the team that "hey, some people care about this. Let's go." It worked. Props. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted July 22, 2009 For your information, Talbot scored MORE GOALS and POINTS in finals than Crosby. For your information, Talbot scored TWICE in game # 7. Think about it again... Well that does it, give the C to Talbot. The Pens would be nowhere without him. If he didn't score in the finals or Game 7 the Pens would have never even made the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2009 Talbot played a role somewhat similar to Ceary's (most of the time) this playoff go-round. He played better than anyone had a right to expect him to play, even while some of the star players around him were underperforming. I don't agree that Talbot or Cleary "led" their teams exactly, but both certainly set an example for the others on their respective teams, that this is the time to let it all hang out, to sweat blood, to give 100% on every single shift. I don't want to call that leading, but I don't know what else to call it. Of course, Talbot gets major props from me for volunteering for the Carcillo beatdown. He didn't have to. He elected to because someone had to do something to spark the team, and all of his teamates were failing. He stepped up and reminded the team that "hey, some people care about this. Let's go." It worked. Props. Bingo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted July 22, 2009 Crosby was shadowed by the Wings best players. Talbot was not. You can say whatever you want about those two games (game seven in the SCF and game six of the quarterfinals), but at the end of the day it was Crosby who led his team as a captain and Malkin who led his team as a forward. Talbot was a great role player, but you are kidding yourself to think he was the sole reason the Penguins won the cup, or even the biggest reason. But please, don't let me stop you. Some of posters should re-watch games # 6 and # 7. You can clearly see that Pens played simple game, dumping puck and chasing Detroit defensemen’s who weren’t wiling to sacrifice their bodies; Rafalski, Kronwall, Stuart, Lebda and even Lidstrom didn’t wanted to play the puck because of Pen’s checking… That’s how you create TURNOVERS and that’s the main point why Detroit LOST. When Pens started hitting shift after s*** Detroit defensemen it was OVER. That’s exactly what has Talbot done. Go and see Don Cherry’s comments (after 1st period) of the game # 7… what he said and what he’s shown??? It was all about Talbot, Kennedy… Detroit had NO ANSWERS to their grinders and that’s it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted July 22, 2009 Well that does it, give the C to Talbot. The Pens would be nowhere without him. If he didn't score in the finals or Game 7 the Pens would have never even made the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
