egroen 384 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 (edited) PRospal, that is! http://blogs.tampabay.com/lightning/ He's due for one of his "on-again" seasons of 70+ points. Edited July 28, 2009 by egroen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingscapsfan 1 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 brian lawton and his staff amaze me at how foolish they are. The lightning along with the Islanders have to be the most poorly run organizations in hockey. Prospal played well with them last year so this doesn't make any sense. It's like that whole organization has ADD or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 Prospal was set to make $3.5M from Tampa last season. His buyout will pay him $1.167M/yr over the next 6 years since he had 3 years left on his deal. Here is the breakdown from Capgeek.com: SEASON ACTUAL SALARY CAP HIT BUYOUT SAVINGS BUYOUT CAP HIT 2009-2010 $3,500,000 $3,500,000 $1,166,667 $2,333,333 $1,166,667 2010-2011 $3,500,000 $3,500,000 $1,166,667 $2,333,333 $1,166,667 2011-2012 $3,500,000 $3,500,000 $1,166,667 $2,333,333 $1,166,667 2012-2013 $0 $0 $1,166,667 $-1,166,667 $1,166,667 2013-2014 $0 $0 $1,166,667 $-1,166,667 $1,166,667 2014-2015 $0 $0 $1,166,667 $-1,166,667 $1,166,667 I would imagine Prospal would be looking for a deal to pay him about $2M/yr for this upcoming season. In my mind I don't really think if I were in Ken Holland's shoes I would do that. I would have to realyl think about it at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 What I would do to get him on our team. I really wanted the Wings to pick him up at the deadline a while back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 He'll be making the $2.3m from Tampa Bay for the next 3 years. Anything over $1.2m from another team for him can be considered a raise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 When a team buys a player out it is for 2/3 of his remaining contract. That money is paid out over 2 times the duration remaining on his contract. In this case Prospal was making $3.5M with 3 years remaining. THat works out to: 3.5*3=10.5 10.5*(2/3)=7.0 7.0/6=1.167 Therefor he will receive $1.167M/yr for the next 6 years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 now THIS is a topic worth talking about... what the hell is TB doing?!? even at 3.5... they're gonna be on the hook for over half, so how is another guy work like 1.5 gonna be better than him?!? Since he's getting a paycheck from TB anyway, Kenny, please, PLEASE offer him a 1.5 a year deal and a chance to win a cup... I'd love to see him here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 If you could sign him at $1.5M/yr then I think you gotta jump on it. He should score you 20 goals and post 50 odd points. Despite him not being exactly the type of player the wings might want at that bargain it'd be tough to pass up. I would sign him for our 3rd line with some 2nd line time and look for a grinder to fill out the 4th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 So how bout that health care Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 (edited) If you could sign him at $1.5M/yr then I think you gotta jump on it. He should score you 20 goals and post 50 odd points. Despite him not being exactly the type of player the wings might want at that bargain it'd be tough to pass up. I would sign him for our 3rd line with some 2nd line time and look for a grinder to fill out the 4th. I'd say full time 2nd line: Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Franzen-Filppula-Prospal Leino-Helm-Cleary Abdelkader-Draper-Maltby/FA Signing looks damn good to me... especially with him on the PP... Edited July 28, 2009 by stevkrause Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 So how bout that health care Haha. Well I just drank some pickle juice. Hope my insurance covers my stomach ache. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 So how bout that health care HA!! You're in the wrong thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 Seriously. I don't fully understand how the buy-out will affect how much a team has to unload to get him, but what can Holland do to get this guy???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 I'd say full time 2nd line: Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Franzen-Filppula-Prospal Leino-Helm-Cleary Abdelkader-Draper-Maltby/FA Signing looks damn good to me... especially with him on the PP... Not bad at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 hell, add Grier too - trade Lebda and Keep Meech and Maltby as reserves... PLAYER BONUS CAP HIT FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk — $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg — $6,083,333 Johan Franzen — $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula — $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary — $2,800,000 Tomas Holmstrom — $2,250,000 Kris Draper — $1,583,333 * Vaclav Prospal — $1,450,000 * Mike Grier — $1,000,000 Kirk Maltby — $883,333 Justin Abdelkader ($140,000) $850,000 Ville Leino — $800,000 Darren Helm — $599,444 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom — $7,450,000 Brian Rafalaski — $6,000,000 Brad Stuart — $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall — $3,000,000 Andreas Lilja — $1,250,000 Jonathan Ericsson — $900,000 Derek Meech — $483,333 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood — $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard — $716,666 BUYOUTS NONE LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS NONE CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS ROSTER SIZE 22 SALARY CAP $56,800,000 PAYROLL $56,920,653 BONUSES $140,000 CAP SPACE $19,347 SIGN ME UP FOR THAT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 (edited) I don't know why I'm getting my hopes up. Chicago will end up signing him for 12.5M over three years Edited July 28, 2009 by Echolalia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 Seriously. I don't fully understand how the buy-out will affect how much a team has to unload to get him, but what can Holland do to get this guy???? Jay McKee was bought out and signed for a huge discount for the Penguins -- Prospal might be inclined to do something similar.... just hopefully not with the Pens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 Jay McKee was bought out and signed for a huge discount for the Penguins -- Prospal might be inclined to do something similar.... just hopefully not with the Pens exactly... after a buy out, a player is already getting a guaranteed paycheck, so couple that with a chance to win a cup and basically the same paycheck (with basically just another team paying half of it) and you get a steal in some cases... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 I think he'd be a great signing for the Red Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingedKitten 9 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 I hope Holland gets him. No more than 2 million though. Lets go Holland! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted July 28, 2009 If he's on his A game he is better then Hudler. A second line of Franzen-Val- Prospal would be just as productive as the exact same line with Hossa, given Hossa's inability to mesh. If we get him and he preforms as he could, we most probably just got the steal of Offseason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snazzy 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 He's not going to be in the open market for long. My guess he goes to the Pens to boost their 2nd line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 Maybe Im wrong but IM not entirely sold on Prospal. As usual it would depend on the money and length of the contract. I said it before, at $1.5M I'd take him in a heart beat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 When a team buys a player out it is for 2/3 of his remaining contract. That money is paid out over 2 times the duration remaining on his contract. In this case Prospal was making $3.5M with 3 years remaining. THat works out to: 3.5*3=10.5 10.5*(2/3)=7.0 7.0/6=1.167 Therefor he will receive $1.167M/yr for the next 6 years Are you sure that's how it's paid out and not just how it is applied to the cap? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snazzy 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 Born 1975 and career +/- [minus] -61 total 2008/09 season: 82 Games Played 19 Goals 26 Assists 45 Points -20 Pass! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
