Swede55 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2009 For most career Lady Byng's? I know a lot of people act like its a nothing award but Pavel is already in exclusive company, winning it four years in a row. Frank Boucher won it seven times in eight years and Gretzky won it five times. Do you think Pavel can challenge Boucher? Parise seems like the only realistic challenger for the next five years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted August 26, 2009 I still can not believe Lidstrom has never won the Byng -- but yes, I think Datsyuk can win another couple, it would be sweet if he won more than Boucher. The Lady Byng used to be considered the Hart runner-up, and I believe it is still worth noting, as the ability to simply stay out of the penalty box and not put your team short-handed is underrated in value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWings Gone Wild 6 Report post Posted August 26, 2009 I'd be more impressed if he challenged Gainey for most Selkes all-time. He only needs 2 more! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted August 26, 2009 I'd be more impressed if he challenged Gainey for most Selkes all-time. He only needs 2 more! this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swede55 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2009 For some reason, I think he has won his last Selke. It seems that the majority of fans prefer Richards.. mainly because he scores much more short handed. Which seems to be a ridiculous reason to win the Selke.. Gretzky scored a lot of shot handed goals.. didn't make him a Selke winner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted August 26, 2009 For some reason, I think he has won his last Selke. It seems that the majority of fans prefer Richards.. mainly because he scores much more short handed. Which seems to be a ridiculous reason to win the Selke.. Gretzky scored a lot of shot handed goals.. didn't make him a Selke winner. To be fair to Richards-- he's definitely a talented defensive forward and deserves the praise he gets. And I'm not talking about his shorthanded goals. I'm pretty confident that Datsyuk has more Selke in him. His defensive numbers last season weren't quite as impressive as they were the year before but that had a lot to do with how poor the team was playing as a defensive unit. This year there will be a much stronger push to play the way the 07-08 Wings did defensively, and that will only help Datsyuk's defensive numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted August 26, 2009 Yeah it is a shame that Nick never won the Byng. I have a feeling the Z will never with the Selke, even though he should have at least one imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted August 26, 2009 As long as he doesn't drop his gloves during a fight, he'll always be a favorite to win this trophy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pskov Wings Fan 71 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 As long as he doesn't drop his gloves during a fight, he'll always be a favorite to win this trophy. He should keep the gloves on. Those hands got better uses than banging on somebodies helmet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 dont get me wrong i love datsyuke but. sportsmanship is overrated. it should be called im a ***** but at least i can score award Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CenterIce 83 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 For some reason, I think he has won his last Selke. It seems that the majority of fans prefer Richards.. mainly because he scores much more short handed. Which seems to be a ridiculous reason to win the Selke.. Gretzky scored a lot of shot handed goals.. didn't make him a Selke winner. The award is not voted on by the fans. Frank J. Selke Trophy The Frank J. Selke Trophy is an annual award given to the forward who best excels in the defensive aspects of the game. The winner is selected in a poll of the Professional Hockey Writers' Association at the end of the regular season. http://www.nhl.com/trophies/selke.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CenterIce 83 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 dont get me wrong i love datsyuke but. sportsmanship is overrated. it should be called im a ***** but at least i can score award Wrong. Sportsmanship is a must. The best way to win is the right way to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 Wrong. Sportsmanship is a must. The best way to win is the right way to win. Sportsmanship isn't a must. Its cool and all that Dats wins the award but who cares its the byng not teh Selke or Hart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 For most career Lady Byng's? I know a lot of people act like its a nothing award but Pavel is already in exclusive company, winning it four years in a row. Frank Boucher won it seven times in eight years and Gretzky won it five times. Do you think Pavel can challenge Boucher? Parise seems like the only realistic challenger for the next five years. The Lady Byng is the most ridiculous award to get in hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 I hope not. His Selkes and Stanley Cups are something to brag about, Byngs arent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 I hope not. His Selkes and Stanley Cups are something to brag about, Byngs arent. Man it's weird reading Selkes as in more than one. Who knew a skinny kid who some said had no aptitude for defense would work his ass off to put on some weight and dare you to hit him only to surprise you with a shoulder check of his own and also win two Selkes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 Man it's weird reading Selkes as in more than one. Who knew a skinny kid who some said had no aptitude for defense would work his ass off to put on some weight and dare you to hit him only to surprise you with a shoulder check of his own and also win two Selkes? Really though In 2002, I never would've imagined Datsyuk being a physical player and a defensive stud, all the while leading the Wings in scoring 3 years in a row. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swede55 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 The award is not voted on by the fans. Frank J. Selke Trophy The Frank J. Selke Trophy is an annual award given to the forward who best excels in the defensive aspects of the game. The winner is selected in a poll of the Professional Hockey Writers' Association at the end of the regular season. http://www.nhl.com/trophies/selke.html Im aware of this but go to a site like hfboards or just read various team message boards and the popular belief is that Richards should have won the Selke this season and probably will next. Of course, the writers know differently but most think Zetterberg should win it over Datsyuk on this site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swede55 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 Really though In 2002, I never would've imagined Datsyuk being a physical player and a defensive stud, all the while leading the Wings in scoring 3 years in a row. Hes led the team in scoring for five seasons.. more than likely would have been six without the lockout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted August 27, 2009 Going into this thread, I was thinking "I'm certain Datsyuk could maneuver around Phillipe and score on Brian." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted August 27, 2009 For some reason, I think he has won his last Selke. It seems that the majority of fans prefer Richards.. mainly because he scores much more short handed. Which seems to be a ridiculous reason to win the Selke.. Gretzky scored a lot of shot handed goals.. didn't make him a Selke winner. Fans don't determine who wins the Selke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites