Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted August 29, 2009 Your not alone Came from the same place as all the Hossa haters, when he didn't show up against a team he played with last year (gee... think they might have learned a thing or two about him then?). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted August 29, 2009 So we can't trade Stuart. Fine. Can we trade Clearly and the rights to Yzerman? I'm thinking we'd get a 1st rounder for, like, 20 years. I think we deserve picks in return when he moves to GM another team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted August 29, 2009 they deleted one of my posts too... the mods we're feeling very nazi yesterday apparently This is the second time tonight I've read you compare the mod's to nazis... gee... I wonder why your posts got deleted. I personally don't consider deleting a few of your posts in any way, shape or form compareable to the massacre of six MILLION people. Please don't get them confused... and for the record I'm not even Jewish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted August 30, 2009 This is the second time tonight I've read you compare the mod's to nazis... gee... I wonder why your posts got deleted. I personally don't consider deleting a few of your posts in any way, shape or form compareable to the massacre of six MILLION people. Please don't get them confused... and for the record I'm not even Jewish. people are WAY too uptight these days, that was in no way shape or form an anti-semetic remark and anyone who can even connect it to that on any level is grasping at straws - it was made in reference to the totalitarian way of running things in a facist society, not the pointless murder of millions of innocent lives and if you notice the context in which it was compared, it's pretty clear what comparison was being made... next time I'll compare them to Stalin... oh wait, then I'm comparing them to murderers ot millions of Russian civilians, right? Or how about Castro... oh, wait, sorry Cubans... so, please, YOU - don't get those two confused... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted August 30, 2009 you're just flat wrong - even if Lilja NEVER sees one minute of LTIR, dealing Ledba and sending Eaves or Helm down does the job and clears us - use Meech as the swing man... you only need 21 for an NHL roster: Technically all you need is two forward lines, a D Pairing and a goalie and back-up to dress for a game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) Technically all you need is two forward lines, a D Pairing and a goalie and back-up to dress for a game Nah, an active roster must include between 20 and 23 players. Dressing ten players doesn't make a difference to the cap. Edited August 30, 2009 by Doggy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted August 30, 2009 you're just flat wrong - even if Lilja NEVER sees one minute of LTIR, dealing Ledba and sending Eaves or Helm down does the job and clears us - use Meech as the swing man... you only need 21 for an NHL roster: FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk �" $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg �" $6,083,333 Johan Franzen �" $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula �" $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary �" $2,800,000 Tomas Holmstrom �" $2,250,000 Kris Draper �" $1,583,333 Jason Williams �" $1,500,000 Todd Bertuzzi �" $1,500,000 Kirk Maltby �" $883,333 Ville Leino �" $800,000 Darren Helm �" $599,444 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom �" $7,450,000 Brian Rafalski �" $6,000,000 Brad Stuart �" $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall �" $3,000,000 Andreas Lilja �" $1,250,000 Jonathan Ericsson �" $900,000 Derek Meech �" $483,333 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood �" $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard �" $716,666 ROSTER SIZE 21 SALARY CAP $56,800,000 PAYROLL $56,620,653 BONUSES $0 CAP SPACE $179,347 How was I flat wrong? You started with the same overage I did, and moved THREE PLAYERS off the roster; Hudler, Eaves, and Lebda. You moved Hudler off and got down to $970k over, then dumped the combined $1.15m of Lebda and Eaves to get under with a 21-man roster that uses Meech as a spare swingman, with $180k of cap space. My suggestions so far have only involved moving one or two players, and what moves could be made. I have also held back suggestions that did not allow for a 22-man roster as the Wings seem to be in preference of that for this season, and suggestions that did not involve players who had NTCs and did not make enough to clear the overage on their own. Maybe later I'll come up with some three-man deals that could be made to clear the overage and the resulting 13/7/2 roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) Nah, an active roster must include between 20 and 23 players. Dressing ten players doesn't make a difference to the cap. Fair enough then! Edited August 30, 2009 by Konnan511 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krayzie_Bone 58 Report post Posted August 30, 2009 Why would they want to trade him? Yeah he screwed up in game 7 or whenever it was I dont really want to think about it I just remember being pissed at him somepoint during the finals. But he played well overall in the playoffs. Way better than Ericssonand all anyone ever said was how well Ericssonplayed when everytime I saw Ericssonhe was turning over the puck. I think Ericsson will be good or great player though that was just his first run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted August 30, 2009 How was I flat wrong? You started with the same overage I did, and moved THREE PLAYERS off the roster; Hudler, Eaves, and Lebda. You moved Hudler off and got down to $970k over, then dumped the combined $1.15m of Lebda and Eaves to get under with a 21-man roster that uses Meech as a spare swingman, with $180k of cap space. My suggestions so far have only involved moving one or two players, and what moves could be made. I have also held back suggestions that did not allow for a 22-man roster as the Wings seem to be in preference of that for this season, and suggestions that did not involve players who had NTCs and did not make enough to clear the overage on their own. Maybe later I'll come up with some three-man deals that could be made to clear the overage and the resulting 13/7/2 roster. how is that a 3 man deal? Holland already said he would move one d-man if Lilja is healthy... so that's a one man move. Then trading Hudler would be the necessary move and the demotion of Helm or Eaves isn't a trade... just a move to GR... that's only 1 guy who is ACTUALLY here... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted August 31, 2009 how is that a 3 man deal? Holland already said he would move one d-man if Lilja is healthy... so that's a one man move. Then trading Hudler would be the necessary move and the demotion of Helm or Eaves isn't a trade... just a move to GR... that's only 1 guy who is ACTUALLY here... I suppose it's actually a two-man move thinking about it and comparing it to my earlier posts. The only difference is that the moves I posted allowed for a 22-man roster. Still, if the Wings' brass wants a 22-man roster, then that deal doesn't work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holmstrom96 347 Report post Posted August 31, 2009 All this talk about trading Stuart makes me wonder whether or not he has a no trade clause. Does anyone know if this is so? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted August 31, 2009 All this talk about trading Stuart makes me wonder whether or not he has a no trade clause. Does anyone know if this is so? Unless I'm mistaken, it is only through this year. He got it so they wouldn't have to move. He wanted stability for his step-daughter. So, yes. He has a NTC. Also, Datsyuk is classy. Ozzie is a possible candidate for the HHOF. DMac has problems. Cheli is still not retiring. Crosby did something newsworthy (like farting or something). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted August 31, 2009 Every time Crosby does something as news worthy as farting Bettman creams himself. Welcome to the new ice age Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
