Doggy 130 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 Because he sits more than he plays possibly? I heard he sits down to pee these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jocke 53 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 Three very different questions there:1) what does Forsberg provide us that we don't already have? I'm not sure this is really even worth dignifying with an answer. I'm not going to insult you by asking if you ever saw the man play. I'm sure you have. As for what he brings that we don't already have, he'd bring a fourth world class talent to our roster. A healthy Forsberg (more on the healthy bit in a moment) is an asset any team on the planet would welcome. 2) Sure, he's still got talent but he's so injury prone he'd be useless. Speculation, but I'll grant you that his injuries in recent years are more than a little worrisome. If he's injured, he's useless. If he's playing, he's anything but. In Holland's shoes, would I roll the dice for a Jason Williams sized contract to bring him on? Abso-f'ing-lutely. 3) Where would he fit on this team? This one made me chuckle a little bit. The answer is, if he's healthy, anywhere he wants. First line scoring? PP? PK? Secondary scoring? Shut down line? Energy line? Check, check, check, check, check and check. This guy was his day's Zetterberg and then some -- the best all around forward in the league (rivaled maybe only by Fedorov). Shoot, I'd bet the guy could play defenseman better than 90% of the bottom pairings in the league today. Can he still bring it like he did in his 20's? Doubtful, but I'll take 60% of Forsberg in his prime over Eaves, Maltby, Williams, May (please don't turn this into another anti-enforcer argument ), Meech, Leino, etc any day of the week... so long as he's actually playing...which, again, is a considerable "if." All that said, it ain't gonna happen. He's been gone for too long, won't accept a reasonable contract (I'm guessing), can make more in Russia, and, all other things being equal, would almost certainly choose any other contender before signing with Detroit given history. But I'd sign him in a heartbeat for $1.5 million given the chance. ^^ This Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 I want Chris Simon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWings Gone Wild 6 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 Only under these two conditions:1) He punches a clock and gets paid for time played and 2) He pays his own hospitalization coverage. I'd be in favor of an incentive based contract (like some of the Hasek ones)... but do doctor bills count against the cap now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 EJ just said on NHL Live that if the Rangers wanted to get Floppa that he'd have to clear waivers? Wtf. That can't be true can it? He is a Free Agent. Okay, but if any team signed him he wouldn't have to clear waivers right??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 (edited) Okay, but if any team signed him he wouldn't have to clear waivers right??? Okay, what the hell is w/ EJ Hradek over at ESPN and NHL Live?? He actually said today that if the Rangers signed him that he'd have to clear waivers!! Even I went, "Um, no he's a free agent!" But how the hell does this guy get a gig like ESPN AND NHL Live and not know that a player wouldn't have to clear waivers after signing as a free agent? At first I thought, "Well maybe there is some dumb ass CBA rule that I was unaware of," but after browsing the web I found this. I just don't see somebody who is an ESPN guy as well as a NHL Live host can not know something like this! I mean, unless there is something that I am missing!! Edited November 7, 2009 by rage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ToMaToToWnWinGsFaN_24 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 who is forsberg trying to become? brett favre? seriously... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 He won't be signing in Chicago. Chicago already has to clear up around $2.2m in cap space just to get Hossa back on the roster once he's healthy. Forsberg will want what, $3m? Then they have to clear up around $4.5-5m. This can be done in one move by waiving and either simply losing Huet and replacing him on the roster with Crawford, or signing another goalie who makes less than $1m. But that would require Niemi to prove to Chicago's brass that he's reliable enough not only to take over the starter position now, but that he can be relied on in a Cup run and that the team can simply drop Huet for nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 Okay, what the hell is w/ EJ Hradek over at ESPN and NHL Live?? He actually said today that if the Rangers signed him that he'd have to clear waivers!! Even I went, "Um, no he's a free agent!" But how the hell does this guy get a gig like ESPN AND NHL Live and not know that a player wouldn't have to clear waivers after signing as a free agent? At first I thought, "Well maybe there is some dumb ass CBA rule that I was unaware of," but after browsing the web I found this. I just don't see somebody who is an ESPN guy as well as a NHL Live host can not know something like this! I mean, unless there is something that I am missing!! It's happened a few times before. Players who begin the season in Europe have to clear waivers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 (edited) It's happened a few times before. Players who begin the season in Europe have to clear waivers. So you're sure that Floppa would have to clear waivers? I still don't see it. Then why wouldn't any team just pick him up after a contender signed him? Edited November 7, 2009 by rage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaymister 71 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 He WILL NOT sign in Detroit. I dont believe this story. Of the two teams, he'd go to Chicago. Making them the most stacked f***in team in the league and a powerhouse fav for the Cup this season. That's scary considering Detroit is in the same division. Forsberg is old and washed up, not to mention he can't stay healthy. he certainly wouldn't solve their goaltending problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted November 7, 2009 Here's another link:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/283687-...back-to-the-nhl Doesn't say anything from Forsberg verbally, but apparently Philly, Colorado, Montreal, Washington, Detroit and Chicago are scouting him. But again, the story leads us to believe that Chicago and us are in the lead for his destination. Anyone can post anything they want on BleacherReport. It is not a reliable resource for anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 Broken merchandise... Buyer beware... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 (edited) So you're sure that Floppa would have to clear waivers?I still don't see it. Then why wouldn't any team just pick him up after a contender signed him? Why do you assume Hradek is an idiot and doesn't know but some random on a message board does? Anyway, I remember reading this a while back when the Sens signed Robitaille. I'll try finding it in the CBA tomorrow maybe, I've had a few drinks and I'm tired now. But yeah, if you play a game in Europe, you gotta clear. Has Forsberg played a game yet? Edited November 7, 2009 by Doggy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjm502 165 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 Vancouver is also interested. Count them in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 Just imagine if Chicago lands Foreskin... Hossa-Foreskin-Koper line... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 Do not want. Too injury prone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 So you're sure that Floppa would have to clear waivers? I still don't see it. Then why wouldn't any team just pick him up after a contender signed him? From the CBA: 13.23 In the event a professional or former professional Player plays in a league outside North America after the start of the NHL Regular Season, other than on Loan from his Club, he may thereafter play in the NHL during that Playing Season (including Playoffs) only if he has first either cleared or been obtained via Waivers. For the balance of the Playing Season, any such Player who has been obtained via Waivers may be Traded or Loaned only after again clearing Waivers or through Waiver claim. See it now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 Here is a quote pulled from a recent blog entry Andy Strickland posted at Hockeybuzz.com: "I’m told by some pretty reliable hockey people that the Detroit Red Wings and Chicago Blackhawks are the two leading candidates to sign free agent forward Peter Forsberg. The future Hall of Famer is getting closer to making his return to the NHL which I’m told should happen around Christmas time. Forsberg has told a few people that Chicago and Detroit are his top two choices." For the record, I don't believe this for a second, but I thought some here might be interested in reading this garbage. Discuss. For Christ's sake, won't this guy ever go away? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pucks 66 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 From the CBA: 13.23 In the event a professional or former professional Player plays in a league outside North America after the start of the NHL Regular Season, other than on Loan from his Club, he may thereafter play in the NHL during that Playing Season (including Playoffs) only if he has first either cleared or been obtained via Waivers. For the balance of the Playing Season, any such Player who has been obtained via Waivers may be Traded or Loaned only after again clearing Waivers or through Waiver claim. See it now? Foresberg does NOT have to clear waivers. It applies if he participates in league play, which he hasn't and won't. Tournament play doesn't count as a league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 (edited) Foresberg does NOT have to clear waivers. It applies if he participates in league play, which he hasn't and won't. Tournament play doesn't count as a league. Does he not play in Sweden? Edit: I always thought he played for Modo. My mistake. Further edit: Upon further research he did play for Modo but before the season began. That's where I confused myself. So yeah, he shouldn't need to clear waivers then. Edited November 7, 2009 by Doggy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pucks 66 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 (edited) I was going to edit my previous post to be more precise but then i found this article at Spector that explains it clearly. A Quick Note on Peter Forsberg. Friday, November 6, 2009, 11:25 AM EST [Peter Forsberg] Fans of former NHL star Peter Forsberg are aware the former Hart and Art Ross trophy winner is currently playing for Sweden in the Karjala Cup, an annual international tournament - involving Sweden, Russia, Finland and the Czech Republic - held in Finland. It's believed Forsberg, whose playing career has been waylaid due to pain in his surgically repaired right foot in recent years, may be using the tournament as a possible springboard for a return to the NHL. As a result it was believed those NHL teams potentially interested in signing Forsberg ran the risk of losing him to waivers, however, Paul Kukla and friends over at Kukla's Korner have determined this isn't the case, courtesy of an e-mail to NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly. I and others believed he had to clear waivers first because he'd played three games for MoDo of the Swedish Elite League but it's been determined he played those games prior to the start of the NHL season and hasn't played any more since. The CBA states that a player who participates in an professional league game other than in the NHL during an NHL season would have to clear waivers. That doesn't apply to Forsberg in this case. Furthermore, international tournaments like the Karjala Cup aren't considered playing a professional league game. In a nutshell, Forsberg doesn't have to clear waivers if he signs with an NHL team for this season. By the way, does anyone in the free world actually think this guy can play out a contract in the NHL anymore? Also if Colorado can keep it going it seems like a no-brainer situation there for him. Edited November 7, 2009 by Pucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 Thanks Pucks. Kinda makes me feel better that I wasn't the only one who messed up there. Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 Thanks Pucks. Kinda makes me feel better that I wasn't the only one who messed up there. Lol. It's all good. I was pretty sure he wouldn't have to clear the waivers. Reason I think EJ is well not the smartest is I listen to him on NHL Live often. Have you? lol. He's a good bs'er though, and can bs his way out of stuff he just doesn't seem to know much about. Check out the show sometime, you'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted November 7, 2009 It's all good. I was pretty sure he wouldn't have to clear the waivers. Reason I think EJ is well not the smartest is I listen to him on NHL Live often. Have you? lol. He's a good bs'er though, and can bs his way out of stuff he just doesn't seem to know much about. Check out the show sometime, you'll see. Canadian hockey media is better. I really can't be bothered with NHL Live. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
