Draperfan 104 Report post Posted November 29, 2009 But he would have to have been "sucking" in the first place. He has been great. great at sucking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Draperfan 104 Report post Posted November 29, 2009 Why is that relevant? He wasn't brought in to be a top-line player. What WAS he brought in for? he doesnt hit,hes a floater,he doesnt fight and he lazy,like another poster said...his hand must shake on payday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motown4013 350 Report post Posted November 29, 2009 Wow...I think everyone is being a bit harsh here. There are at LEAST six guys on this roster who are underacheiving...easily. Bert is one of those guys and he knows it. He looked confident and relieved after scoring a really nice SO goal to WIN IT for the Wings. I think that will help his confidence and his numbers will go up....I hope so anyway. As for him being a bit slower, loosing a step and not having the physical presence he once did....well, if he did, we would be paying him 5 million a year, not 1.5. We will see.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mors 201 Report post Posted November 29, 2009 great at sucking Bertuzzi scores the game winner and you're still in here hating on him? Why don't you give it a rest? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HOCKEY MATTERS 167 Report post Posted November 29, 2009 (edited) Bertuzzi scores the game winner and you're still in here hating on him? Why don't you give it a rest? Some of the posters here crack me up. It wouldn't matter if the Wings were highest in the league by 15 points, 12 game winning streak, lowest goals against, most short-handed goals for and leading in every other category....some folks would have their panties in a knot over something. Severe mental retardation, if you ask me. Seems like some here think their opinion matters to anyone other than themselves, and are willing to fight to be "right". I laugh. edit for topic....bert is playing as well as the other boneheads right now. they'll all quit being boneheads soon enough, but that won't stop the whiners! Edited November 29, 2009 by HOCKEY MATTERS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted November 29, 2009 Bertuzzi scores the game winner and you're still in here hating on him? Why don't you give it a rest? I hate shootouts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted November 29, 2009 (edited) What WAS he brought in for? he doesnt hit,hes a floater,he doesnt fight and he lazy,like another poster said...his hand must shake on payday. He is one of the team leaders in hits and takeaways. You keep saying stuff like this in an imperceptive attempt to a wish that it magically becomes true. I'm sorry, but you don't contribute anything of value and your negativity through your interaction on the board seems like a desperate attempt to salvage a sort of reinsurance, security and understanding in hopes that you can normally involve yourself with social situations. I pity you. Edited November 29, 2009 by Carman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake Ryan 1 Report post Posted November 29, 2009 Pav is much more than just a goal scorer. He also has 13 assists. He's historically a slow starter. Are you saying that he will finish with 6 goals for the year? That's just stupid. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_J._Selke_Trophy Anyone who gets on Pavel's case is just plain braindead. That's all there is to it. Put your fist up in the air, close your eyes, and yell "Homerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!" as loud as you want to. But don't get on Pavel's case. He's got the hardware to back up his worth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest zackmorris Report post Posted November 29, 2009 (edited) Bertuzzi has a passive offensive style. Much like Datsyuk. We have to admit, we kind of give in to groupthink here and it's become trendy to rip on him. Visually, we can't judge effort and I'm sure Bert is trying. There's a locker room that expects it of him. I think he just doesn't mix with Datsyuk. Not all players do. Not to sound like a homer but Pav's almost too good sometimes, as he'll make passes and plays you wouldn't expect a player to be able to make. I think once we get Mule, Flip and Williams back, Bert can go to the third line or something and find someone he works well with. Because when he does something right, we ignore it. It's not fun to compliment him at the moment. When he f***s up, the worlds ends and he sucks and, well, we go overboard. Alot. I've lurked for years, I've seen what's gone on here. At one point or another, we've hated or wanted to trade Datsyuk, Filppula, Franzen, Huds, Rafalski, Osgood, Sammy, etc etc etc. There isn't enough crow for our collective to eat. Edited November 29, 2009 by zackmorris Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted November 29, 2009 it means he should be in more shootouts he'll come out flying next game then make a bad play within the first 5 mins and he'll be back to himself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted November 29, 2009 It was a good move in the shootout. I don't remember him ever being able to pot one in the SO during his first tenure in 2007, so this was nice to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DangleDangleBeach 16 Report post Posted November 29, 2009 Pav is much more than just a goal scorer. He also has 13 assists. He's historically a slow starter. Are you saying that he will finish with 6 goals for the year? That's just stupid. no im saying that he has been BRUTAL and makes 6 million dollars a year to be a decent defensive forward? how about he does what all the other 6 mill a year guys do and put pucks in the hole. historically a slow starter? he went a ppg until december last year and then started playing well, and ummm hes not a point per game now. so is a point per game like last year and the year before slow starts? okay..... how about 1 goal in 16 playoff games? or 9 points in 16 playoff games? is that worth 6 mill a year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted November 29, 2009 no im saying that he has been BRUTAL and makes 6 million dollars a year to be a decent defensive forward? how about he does what all the other 6 mill a year guys do and put pucks in the hole. historically a slow starter? he went a ppg until december last year and then started playing well, and ummm hes not a point per game now. so is a point per game like last year and the year before slow starts? okay..... how about 1 goal in 16 playoff games? or 9 points in 16 playoff games? is that worth 6 mill a year? Fair arguments in the end, but would you rather have the Red Wings with Datsyuk or without? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted November 29, 2009 Granted it is just a shootout goal, anyone else think this may be a big boost of confidence for him and we might see him finish? Yes. Pretty much anybody and everybody though goes on hot/cold streaks. He'll probably hit a hot streak at some point, and some point he'll dry up again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted November 29, 2009 Bertuzzi scores the game winner and you're still in here hating on him? Why don't you give it a rest? I find the ignore feature on this forum quite useful and fun for people who are too brickheaded to change or continually act like an idiot like you've just experienced. I have quite a few incompetent people on ignore thankfully on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest zackmorris Report post Posted November 30, 2009 ^True. If there was an award for blockheaded stubbornness, Draperfan would sweep the voting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted November 30, 2009 He is one of the team leaders in hits and takeaways. You keep saying stuff like this in an imperceptive attempt to a wish that it magically becomes true. I'm sorry, but you don't contribute anything of value and your negativity through your interaction on the board seems like a desperate attempt to salvage a sort of reinsurance, security and understanding in hopes that you can normally involve yourself with social situations. I pity you. Oh snap! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted November 30, 2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_J._Selke_Trophy Anyone who gets on Pavel's case is just plain braindead. That's all there is to it. Put your fist up in the air, close your eyes, and yell "Homerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!" as loud as you want to. But don't get on Pavel's case. He's got the hardware to back up his worth. Who makes $2,250,000 a year and is tied for the lead in goals on the Detroit Red Wings? This guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted November 30, 2009 Now, if people didn't quote the posts of Draperfan and Jake Ryan's stupidity, the ignore feature for me will have its full benefit and I wouldn't have to see them being idiots at all. *prays and wishes* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Draperfan 104 Report post Posted November 30, 2009 It means we give him a one or two day reprieve on LGW from 'Bertuzzi Sucks' posts. Seriously ... that's all it means. He STILL sucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted November 30, 2009 He STILL sucks Do you post anything else? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Draperfan 104 Report post Posted November 30, 2009 ^True. If there was an award for blockheaded stubbornness, Draperfan would sweep the voting. Thank You Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Draperfan 104 Report post Posted November 30, 2009 Do you post anything else? Truth hurt? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted November 30, 2009 Truth hurt? No you haven't provided any evidence of him "sucking". You are clearly insane. Hopelessly repeating the same thing hoping it comes true and everything. I pity you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DangleDangleBeach 16 Report post Posted November 30, 2009 Fair arguments in the end, but would you rather have the Red Wings with Datsyuk or without? okay you got me there too... haha. i just want datsyuk to play like datysuk ya know / have our 6 mill a year guy earning his money because in the playoffs he sure as hell did not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
