Miller Brew 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) First off, Holland is an amazing GM. His brilliance to find players such as Eaves, Miller and Newbury. I am so happy with Eaves and Miller. I think if nothing else, Wings/Holland may have just re-sparked their respective careers. Hopefully they can stay in Detroit. That said, when players start to come back we're going to (eventually) need to move some guys. Who do we move? Role players coming back: Franzen Williams Filppula Cleary This is a great problem to have but I really want to see Miller and Eaves here for awhile. Players like May and Newbury can go as I feel solid PKer's and defensive minded players who can put the puck in net should stay. That'd help relieve a lot of pressure off Pasha and Hank on the PK. And Eaves has really found his groove here. Miller has been absolutely solid without even a hiccup. Then again, Eaves and Miller might have (mid to late round) trade value. What are your thoughts? Edited December 16, 2009 by Miller Brew Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 I've been wondering this myself. Who can be sent down? How many extra players can a team carry? Abdelkader will (unfortunately) have to go down, because we'll need the space and I think he's one of the few that can be sent down. As for Miller, Eaves, May, Maltby? It'll suck but one of Miller or Eaves will probably have to sit as an extra skater. Don't know what to do with May, he's been good for us and I'd hate to send him packing, but he can't be sent down, can he? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 Me hopes Leino and Willy become healthy scratchy. Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Holmstrom Cleary-Filppula-Franzen Draper-Helm-Eaves Bertuzzi-Abdelkader-Miller Franzen-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Bertuzzi-Zetterberg-Cleary Helm-Filppula-Eaves Draper-Abdelkader-Miller With a depth hierarchy of May/Maltby for the bottom six & Williams/Leino for the top six. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) keep eaves and miller up Edited December 16, 2009 by Lidstromboli Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary $2,800,000 Tomas Holmstrom $2,250,000 Kris Draper $1,583,333 Jason Williams $1,500,000 Todd Bertuzzi $1,500,000 Kirk Maltby $883,000 Justin Abdelkader $850,000 Ville Leino $800,000 Darren Helm $599,000 Drew Miller $525,000 Patrick Eaves $500,000 Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brian Rafalski $6,000,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 Brett Lebda $650,000 Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard $716,666 CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS ROSTER SIZE 23 SALARY CAP $56,800,000 PAYROLL $57,411,543 BONUSES $0 CAP SPACE $-611,543 Somehow they would have to shed that much. Preferably by keeping Eaves and Miller in the lineup. They'll probably send Abdelkader down I suppose. Edited December 16, 2009 by titanium2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 This one's easy. More injuries will require Miller, Abby, Eaves and May to stay in the lin-up. How's that for optimism? R Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cupforwings 138 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 Me hopes Leino and Willy become healthy scratchy. Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Holmstrom Cleary-Filppula-Franzen Draper-Helm-Eaves Bertuzzi-Abdelkader-Miller Franzen-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Bertuzzi-Zetterberg-Cleary Helm-Filppula-Eaves Draper-Abdelkader-Miller With a depth hierarchy of May/Maltby for the bottom six & Williams/Leino for the top six. Why would Willy become a healthy scratch? He is better then Abdelkader and Miller, and played pretty good for the team before he got hurt. If we are going to make lines: Franzen-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Bertuzzi-Zetterberg-Cleary Eaves-Filpula-Williams (Leino) Draper-Helm-Miller Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mule 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 Miller and Eaves MUST stay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 Me hopes Leino and Willy become healthy scratchy. Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Holmstrom Cleary-Filppula-Franzen Draper-Helm-Eaves Bertuzzi-Abdelkader-Miller Franzen-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Bertuzzi-Zetterberg-Cleary Helm-Filppula-Eaves Draper-Abdelkader-Miller With a depth hierarchy of May/Maltby for the bottom six & Williams/Leino for the top six. I don't think the league is going to give us an exception and allow us to keep an active roster of 25... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russianswede919293 95 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 I think it depends on Ville Leino's play for the rest of the time. If he starts to produce its a choice between May and Miller, and I pick Miller to stay. If Leino continues to struggle he could be sent back to GR and then Eaves, May Miller would all stay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 I don't think the league is going to give us an exception and allow us to keep an active roster of 25... Shhh. Bettman can't really count. Guess I should've prefaced that as a playoff roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 Holmstrom-Datsyuk-Franzen Bertuzzi-Zetterberg-Cleary Leino-Filppula-Williams Draper-Helm-Eaves + Maltby/May/Miller Holmstrom-Datsyuk-Zetterberg Bertuzzi-Filppula-Franzen Leino-Williams-Cleary Draper-Helm-Eaves + Maltby/May/Miller That is if Leino gets it going, which I believe he does. Abdelkader will get a lot of ice time in GR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 Abdelkader will be back in GR so he can play 20+ mins a night and play a scorer's role again. As for the trade(s) I'm hoping we've seen the last of a guy who's name rhymes with Pebda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) Get rid of Leino and keep Miller and Eaves. Those guys actually battle. Edited December 16, 2009 by Reds4Life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowknife Redwing 57 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 The only thing I want to see for sure is Bertuzzi and Franzen on the same line. They have the potential to absolutely dominate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 I'd be more than happy to see Leino go for a pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinWing 26 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 As for the trade(s) I'm hoping we've seen the last of a guy who's name rhymes with Pebda. He could be replaced on defense by one of the extra forwards. Doesn't even matter who, he can't do any worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetts 236 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 He could be replaced on defense by one of the extra forwards. Doesn't even matter who, he can't do any worse. Wow does Lebda take some hate on here. Yeah, he's not an all-star, but I think people on here just work each other up with the bashing, making the issue way over-blown. He's not that bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lookalive07 251 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary $2,800,000 Tomas Holmstrom $2,250,000 Kris Draper $1,583,333 Jason Williams $1,500,000 Todd Bertuzzi $1,500,000 Kirk Maltby $883,000 Justin Abdelkader $850,000 Ville Leino $800,000 Darren Helm $599,000 Drew Miller $525,000 Patrick Eaves $500,000 Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brian Rafalski $6,000,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 Brett Lebda $650,000 Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard $716,666 CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS ROSTER SIZE 23 SALARY CAP $56,800,000 PAYROLL $57,411,543 BONUSES $0 CAP SPACE $-611,543 Somehow they would have to shed that much. Preferably by keeping Eaves and Miller in the lineup. They'll probably send Abdelkader down I suppose. Here's your perfect solution: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjlegend 155 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 Wow does Lebda take some hate on here. Yeah, he's not an all-star, but I think people on here just work each other up with the bashing, making the issue way over-blown. He's not that bad. He's the 18th best skater on the Wings each game he plays. That right thurr puts him behind the eight ball. He'd be the #3 d-men on Carolina, if that makes you feel better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miller Brew 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 Wow does Lebda take some hate on here. Yeah, he's not an all-star, but I think people on here just work each other up with the bashing, making the issue way over-blown. He's not that bad. I agree. I didn't intend to make a thread to become a RW player bashing thread. I was hoping this thread would give good insight and logical thoughts about what's going to happen as healthy players return (and even next year's potential roster). I'm disappointed that this turned into, yet, another RW bashing thread. It's getting so old reading RW bashing posts on a Wings fan forum. /sigh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 Dats Zetterberg Homer Franzen Filpulla Cleary Bertuzzi Williams Leino Draper Helm Eaves I suspect this will most likely be the roster that Babs rolls with, with different line combinations. I have no idea who would play 13th forward out of Maltby May and Miller. I'm guessing Miller, because the other two don't bring as much skill to the table. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feldmarschall 9 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 Even with Abdelkader back in Grand Rapids, somebody's going to go to waivers if the team is ever fully healthy. 23 is still the limit, as a few have pointed out. My money is on them not waiving Maltby, and Miller's played too well to go back on the wire. My bet is May, if we're holding seven defensemen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinWing 26 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 Wow does Lebda take some hate on here. Yeah, he's not an all-star, but I think people on here just work each other up with the bashing, making the issue way over-blown. He's not that bad. I know, I wasn't being that serious. It's just that I'd rather give his minutes to someone who has more upside. He's fine as a 6th defenseman but he obviously isn't getting any better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted December 16, 2009 Question is.. would Leino accept being sent down to GR? I'm pretty sure he will head back home to finland if that were to happen.. in the end of his GR time he was deadly fed up with it and he probably think he shouldn't be playing another AHL game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
