Phazon 24 Report post Posted January 16, 2010 34p in 45 games now, and he picked a real bad time to slump. I am just wondering how a player of his caliber isnt doing better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lilja4mvp Report post Posted January 16, 2010 i guess the "injury" he had in the playoffs last year is permanent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted January 16, 2010 I don't know. I try not to be too hard on players, especially Datsyuk and Zetterberg who we all love, but I don't know how they can both be so mediocre this year. THey were world class for a couple years now and then suddenly both disappear at the same time for an entire season? It defies any explanation. It can't be injuries, it can't be their linemates, they should be good enough to score with anyone on their wing, that's what was said about them the past few years. They don't even have chemistry with each other anymore, it just disappeared. We can only hope they get it together for playoffs and we can forget about why they suddenly joined the average class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lilja4mvp Report post Posted January 16, 2010 buccigross isn't looking so crazy now, is he? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted January 16, 2010 His wife has no one to go shopping with, so I excuse him for his bad play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted January 16, 2010 whole team is struggling not just him. one person cant carry the team themself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted January 16, 2010 Zetterberg had 2 assists tonight and looked pretty good to me. He had a stretch of games before getting injured when he was amazing imo, despite not putting up huge numbers. Datsyuk is really underperforming though. Tonight he looked completely out of it. A game here and there where he looks great makes it difficult for me to say it's a nagging injury or something like that. I think it's just in his head, he doesn't have that "fire" this year. Maybe he's focusing on the Olympics. Also I have to mention that a guy like Malkin only has 43 points in 42 games. Yes it's better than Pavel but not by much, especially if you look at all the things Pav does to be useful even when he's not scoring. Even superstars underperform sometimes.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted January 16, 2010 Datsyuk played good today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted January 16, 2010 whole team is struggling not just him. one person cant carry the team themself True, but you hope your star players can step up and carry a big part of the load. Dats was the regular season MVP last year for the Wings, and they need him now badly. He has his moments, but just hasn't looked himself most games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdavis 28 Report post Posted January 16, 2010 I've heard something about his wife wanting to move to Russia. Maybe he is just suffering from p-whipism lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted January 16, 2010 34 points is completely bombing? oh jeez Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marty Barry 230 Report post Posted January 16, 2010 Maybe Dats and Pavs fell in love with golf during the offseason. Now they just want to get to the course as fast as they can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted January 16, 2010 (edited) 34 points is completely bombing? oh jeez c'mon, this is LGW. Either someone is the greatest player of all time or they suck worse than anyone has ever sucked in the history of sucking. But after two 97 point seasons, and two 87 point seasons before those, he's on pace for about 60. That's a sizeable drop in one year. Edited January 16, 2010 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted January 16, 2010 34 points is completely bombing? oh jeez For a guy who - IIRC - most on here expected to put up 100 pts this year? Yup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted January 16, 2010 well then datsyuk can take his lazy ass to the khl, that's what i says! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stuck in socal 56 Report post Posted January 16, 2010 He looks snakebitten in every single offensive aspect of the game. I see the effort, but really nothing to show for this year yet. I am hoping the Olympics can get him jump started. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOwl 77 Report post Posted January 16, 2010 Datysuk gets paid to rack up points. Not play well. Draper and Maltby get paid to play well. Big difference. Would anyone say Heatley or Ovechkin played well if they didn't score any points? No. These high paid forwards get paid to score. Datysuk isn't scoring, and thus, isn't playing well. Doesn't matter if he wins 100% of his draws, and has 5 take aways. Scoring is what matters, and for guys like Datysuk and Zetterberg, if you don't get points, you aren't playing well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted January 16, 2010 His wife has no one to go shopping with, so I excuse him for his bad play. Gossiping is no fun unless you can do it in a language that nobody else can understand. I can understand her frustration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted January 17, 2010 Datysuk gets paid to rack up points. Not play well. Draper and Maltby get paid to play well. Big difference. Would anyone say Heatley or Ovechkin played well if they didn't score any points? No. These high paid forwards get paid to score. Datysuk isn't scoring, and thus, isn't playing well. Doesn't matter if he wins 100% of his draws, and has 5 take aways. Scoring is what matters, and for guys like Datysuk and Zetterberg, if you don't get points, you aren't playing well. I can't tell if you're being serious or not, but 1: Datsyuk is getting points (just not as many as we'd like) and 2: Datsyuk does a hell of a lot more good when not scoring points than Ovechking or Heatley does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted January 17, 2010 I've said it before and I'll say it again, the last 2 seasons were the best you will ever see of Pavel Datsyuk. He has peaked. Players in general Peak in 27-31 age, and he is going according to the Norm. Thats not to say he isn't capable of more than this season, as he definatly is but I cant see Dats ever breaking 95 points again, maybe 90. With that being said I still expect him to eventually bounce back and be a great ppg player who is great defensivily, but physically he just seems run down. I am sure his supposed problems with his wife takes a toll also. He'll come around eventually, but we will never see the 2008 Datsyuk (I.E. most complete player in the world) ever again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stuck in socal 56 Report post Posted January 17, 2010 I've said it before and I'll say it again, the last 2 seasons were the best you will ever see of Pavel Datsyuk. He has peaked. Players in general Peak in 27-31 age, and he is going according to the Norm. Thats not to say he isn't capable of more than this season, as he definatly is but I cant see Dats ever breaking 95 points again, maybe 90. With that being said I still expect him to eventually bounce back and be a great ppg player who is great defensivily, but physically he just seems run down. I am sure his supposed problems with his wife takes a toll also. He'll come around eventually, but we will never see the 2008 Datsyuk (I.E. most complete player in the world) ever again. If you are right, then I am going to be very upset. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted January 17, 2010 whole team is struggling not just him. one person cant carry the team themself Tell that to OV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted January 17, 2010 Superstars are supposed to put a team on their back in times of trouble. That's what separates good players from superstar players. This season, Datsyuk and Zetterberg have shown that they're no longer playing like superstar players. They're not in the same class as a Malkin, Crosby or Ovechkin as others have claimed in the past. Those guys can carry a team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted January 17, 2010 and to backstrom, semin, knuble, laich, fleischmann, and green! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stuck in socal 56 Report post Posted January 17, 2010 Superstars are supposed to put a team on their back in times of trouble. That's what separates good players from superstar players. This season, Datsyuk and Zetterberg have shown that they're no longer playing like superstar players. They're not in the same class as a Malkin, Crosby or Ovechkin as others have claimed in the past. Those guys can carry a team. I hate to say it, but prior to this season I was thinking Z and D were in the same class as the Big 3. I hate to say it but I think I was wrong. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
