cmonster 11 Report post Posted January 17, 2010 I was thinking of a possible rule change. Instead of rewarding an extra point for a shootout or overtime win, why not just use the win as a tiebreaker. Take for example, todays game. Under the rule change both Chicago and Detroit get a point, but Chicago would get the edge in a tie breaker situation because they won in a shootout. And in the standings record it as a tie. What do you guys think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Dano33 41 Report post Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) spaghetti Do you realize you have the board rules in your signature? Anyway, I think it could be a good idea. I'd like to see how it would effect the current standings. Edited January 17, 2010 by Dano33 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted January 17, 2010 Just get rid of the point you get even if you lose alltogether. I know it benefited the WIngs these last two games but you're being awarded for not winning. The whole concept is silly. If we aren't going to Win-Loss-Tie anytime soon... 3 points for a win in regulation 2 points for a win in overtime 1 point for a win in a shootout 0 points for a loss at any time in a game, no questions asked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) 2 points for a win 0 points for a loss. Five minute 4 on 4 OT's. 1 point for a tie. No shootouts. Edited January 18, 2010 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Howard He Do It?! Report post Posted January 17, 2010 2 points for a win 0 points for a loss. Five minute 4 on 4 OT's. No shootouts. They continually play 5 minute 4-on-4 OT's until someone wins? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Howard He Do It?! Report post Posted January 17, 2010 Just get rid of the point you get even if you lose alltogether. I know it benefited the WIngs these last two games but you're being awarded for not winning. The whole concept is silly. If we aren't going to Win-Loss-Tie anytime soon... 3 points for a win in regulation 2 points for a win in overtime 1 point for a win in a shootout 0 points for a loss at any time in a game, no questions asked This is a very interesting idea. You would see an even higher level of play during regulation and an increased sense of urgency to avoid OT and the SO. I would use this system along side a 10 minute 4-on-4 OT and possibly increases the SO from 3 skaters to 5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martyrme19 73 Report post Posted January 17, 2010 I HATE that there are 4 categories for points when you look at standings. It just looks stupid and messy. Though I don't know if I completely agree with the original idea but I do think there should be: 2 points in win in regulation, OT or shootout. 1 point if you make it through the OT but lose in the shootout. 0 points if you lose in regulation or OT. Before, you only got one point if you tied at the end of OT and that was the end of it. Things got screwy once they went to a 4 on 4 OT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted January 17, 2010 2 points for a win 0 points for a loss. Five minute 4 on 4 OT's. No shootouts. Make it 10 minutes of 4 on 4 OT and you've got yourself a deal. The shootout is a lot less fun to watch when it's inflating the standings and keeping the Wings from gaining ground on anybody. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dano33 41 Report post Posted January 17, 2010 I HATE that there are 4 categories for points when you look at standings. It just looks stupid and messy. Though I don't know if I completely agree with the original idea but I do think there should be: 2 points in win in regulation, OT or shootout. 1 point if you make it through the OT but lose in the shootout. 0 points if you lose in regulation or OT. Before, you only got one point if you tied at the end of OT and that was the end of it. Things got screwy once they went to a 4 on 4 OT. That would make the game more boring. The last 5 minutes of regulation + OT would be lockdown/trap hockey. It wouldn't help. You can't just not go with a system if it's messy/stupid looking. If it's the best system, thats the one they should go with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Howard He Do It?! Report post Posted January 18, 2010 That would make the game more boring. The last 5 minutes of regulation + OT would be lockdown/trap hockey. It wouldn't help. You can't just not go with a system if it's messy/stupid looking. If it's the best system, thats the one they should go with. That's exactly why ties were eliminated from hockey. The NHL was upset that both teams would play it safe and play for the guaranteed 1 point. They will not go back to a system that rewards "boring" hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyuk2Zetterberg 1 Report post Posted January 18, 2010 0.5 for loser point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted January 18, 2010 They continually play 5 minute 4-on-4 OT's until someone wins? Oh sorry. I forgot to mention, 1 point for the tie. Basically, go back to the way it used to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Howard He Do It?! Report post Posted January 18, 2010 Oh sorry. I forgot to mention, 1 point for the tie. Basically, go back to the way it used to be. The NHL eliminated the tie so that the two teams wouldn't sit on the tie and earn the guaranteed points. The NHL considers this "boring." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted January 18, 2010 The NHL eliminated the tie so that the two teams wouldn't sit on the tie and earn the guaranteed points. The NHL considers this "boring." I don't remember being bored by hockey before shootouts were implemented. There were plenty of OT wins before this 1 point for a loss system was created. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Howard He Do It?! Report post Posted January 18, 2010 I don't remember being bored by hockey before shootouts were implemented. There were plenty of OT wins before this 1 point for a loss system was created. Remember, this is the NHL we are talking about. The NHL thinks we all want to see 10-8 games and watch shootouts all day long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted January 18, 2010 The NHL eliminated the tie so that the two teams wouldn't sit on the tie and earn the guaranteed points. The NHL considers this "boring." True. But now we've got teams sitting on the tie so they're guaranteed a point and can try for two in the skills competition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martyrme19 73 Report post Posted January 18, 2010 That would make the game more boring. The last 5 minutes of regulation + OT would be lockdown/trap hockey. It wouldn't help. You can't just not go with a system if it's messy/stupid looking. If it's the best system, thats the one they should go with. Ya that doesn't really make any sense to me. If its tied in the 3rd - you're guaranteed a point going into overtime. So tell me why what you are saying here, doesnt apply to hockey right now? You don't want to play regulation plus OT and come up with 0 points, so you will play to win. No matter how you want to word it so it makes sense to you, if a team wants to play trap hockey to hold onto a lead, tie or whatever - they are going to do it. ...and you cant play trap hockey 4 on 4 (which is not real hockey to me so i think this is also stupid) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted January 18, 2010 I hate ties, but I also hate the extra point. Ideally, I'd like to see them play until someone wins. Unfortunately, if we want to be on TV, we have to fit the games into their schedules, which means no really, really long games during the regular season. My fix: Regulation, or OT: 2 points for a win; 0 for a loss. Shootout: 1.5 points for a win; 0.5 for a loss. If I had an ounce of mathematical sense in my head, I'd go with: Regulation: 2 for a win; 0 for a loss. OT: 1.5 for a win; 0.5 for a loss. Shootout: 1.25 for a win; 0.75 for a loss with 3 rounds of shooters and deduct 0.05 from the winner and add it to the loser for each round after 3 in the shootout. Yes, the last part was a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
