martyrme19

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  1. martyrme19

    Exciting solution to "tanking" and the draft

    You didn't need to say you didn't read it, it was quite obvious.
  2. I'm sure there are some glaring problems with this model I haven't thought of, so feel free to point them out. But no system is perfect so maybe the positives outweigh the negatives and I'm on to something?..... So, one thing I completely dread being a sports fan is my team stuck in purgatory. Not good enough to ever truly contend for a championship, but not bad enough to get the draft picks needed to reshape your franchise. The Blues were the poster child of this problem until just this year when they were the beneficiaries of a perfect storm. But I also hate tanking. I can't help but root for the Wings to tank again this year because I believe we still need that key player to give us that championship edge. So I was thinking of the current process, and it's relatively the same with each major franchise. The worst team gets the best pick, or at least a weighted lottery system in order to hedge the guaranteed best pick as to *hopefully* discourage tanking. All I think this does is reframe the narrative to shooting for your best *chance* at a top pick. So I thought, any real change to that system would have to be drastic. So what does drastic look like? I came up with this idea: Teams that don't make the playoffs play in their own, best of 3 playoff series. The better you finish, the closer to the #1 overall pick you get. Winner of the playoff gets the #1 pick, runner-up gets #2, etc. *With this exercise, Seattle is in existence to give us 16 teams who miss the playoffs. How would it bet set up? I'm thinking no conferences, but the best team who misses the playoffs is #1, through the worst team ranked #16. 1 plays 16, 2 plays 15 and so on. As teams lose in each round, their seeding on how they finish the regular season determines who drafts before who. Why would players want to play in this tournament? Monetary compensation per round Contractually obligated Pride They care about the future of their franchise They may genuinely enjoy it They can showcase "clutch" traits to consider in contractual considerations down the road. I believe in the long run - it will result in higher paydays for more players. (further explanation provided a little later) What are some immediate problems with this model? Teams that are on the playoff bubble may choose to be the best team to miss the playoffs than the worst team to make it - I don't think this would be an issue. I'm sure there are real pressures from the owner to make the playoffs as oppose to miss them. Look at how "all-in" Columbus went even when they knew they would lose 3 stars for nothing. The NHL also has a "Just get in" playoff mentality where anything can happen. If its likely the #32nd worst team loses to the #17th worst team, won't their woes continue for years and years? -I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. The idea is that if you're the worst team, you need to make other moves in the offseason to ensure you aren't as bad next season. If it's determined some things need to be tweaked, you tweak it. It's too many games for too many players. - That's why I suggested a best of 3 series. Far fewer games than a best of 7. If you really want to make that argument, we can explore shortening the regular season by a little. It will detract from the normal playoffs - I doubt it. Plenty of fans stop watching hockey after their local teams are out of the playoffs. Hence, when small market teams play each other, ratings suck and vice versa. This will give those other fans another reason to keep watching. The diehard fans like myself will watch these games plus the normal playoffs. Plus, it'll be much shorter and over far before the best series in the playoffs begin. You can also explore delaying this playoffs a week/10 days which I think is a good idea It will most likely make the trade deadline less exciting - I could make an argument that this is a plus. (and I will a little later) But if teams that miss the playoffs want to do well in the tournament, they won't want to ship off all of their talent to make their team worse. I think it will still happen, but the value of those players will increase even more! What are some positives to this model: Additional revenue and publicity - Maybe the games aren't televised nationally but just locally, but as a Wings fan I would probably watch the tournament with only slightly less enthusiasm than the normal playoffs. Whether it's for the cup or a draft pick, "best of" whatever games are just flat out exciting! They should still rake in better television dollars than a regular season game. The NHL has s*** national television agreements anyways. Prevents tanking - You can't be the worst team and win this tournament. Therefore, you can't just rely on selling off every good player for draft picks. Likely, the best GM's will find a combination of trading assets and preparing for this tournament. Awards being better - Every team's goal is now to finish as high as possible in the standings no matter what. If you aren't a playoff team this year like the Red Wings, us fans don't have to argue what's better for us - to win or to tank. We can cheer for the same thing - to be the best we possibly can. If we miss the playoffs, we can be excited to do well in the tournament for a high draft pick. Should increase players market value - Each year is different, but obviously there are some teams every season who just aren't in the market for certain players because they aren't ready to make a push yet. Look at us - our signings this offseason were purposefully "meh" because we aren't making that push yet. If the market for players widens, there will be more teams bidding for your services and more demand. That will result in more money for players. You'll have even less teams close to the salary floor. The trade deadline will help create even more parity -As I mentioned before, this will obviously alter trades throughout the season. Less trades will happen, I'm sure. But, the players that do get traded will now require an even greater bounty. The increase in assets for the good teams to acquire these players will affect them adversely down the road, causing more parity in the league. The smartest GM's will show their worth - There are simply more variables to consider now. How do you balance trading players for assets vs keeping them to do well in the tournament? If you're in the playoffs, how do you decide what to spend on rentals? Rentals are s*** anyways - Seriously, as excited as I was on trade deadline day to get guys like Larry Murphy, Jamie Macoun, Chris Chelios, Wendel Clark, Bill Ranford, Mathieu Schneider etc. etc...... I think the concept is kind of bulls***. The Stanley Cup winner should win the championship because of the team they acquired, not rented for a few months. That's just a personal opinion but I'm sure some people have to agree with me. The best players won't have to suffer years of a completely s***ty team where their talents will be wasted or ruined. -Nail Yakupov, Taylor Hall and Connor McDavid will thank you! The #1 pick will now go towards a team deserving instead of awarded with pity. - In sports, shouldn't we strive to make every aspect of the game about competition? Why should s*** teams like Edmonton be rewarded year after year just because they can't stop sucking? Why do the Blackhawks get to suck for years and years before striking gold with Toews and Kane? Similarly with Pittsburgh with Crosby and Malkin. Why does New Jersey just get to flat out get lucky with Hischier and Hughes this year. (granted, they probably would've done well in the tournament anyways) But what I'm saying is, make a team EARN everything. From the Stanley Cup to the best draft picks. OK -- I've wasted enough of my time and yours if anyone actually took the time to read all of this. I'd appreciate any thought, criticisms or feedback on the idea. I won't be too surprised if it just sinks to the bottom of the forum floor though!
  3. martyrme19

    Ray Sheppard traded for $1

    I think I remember him being known for a lack of speed. When he played for the Wings, I was old enough to be a Red Wings "fan" because my dad was, but would rather watch cartoons than an actual hockey game. All I know is, I begged my parents to buy a German Shepherd so that I could name him Ray.
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    2019-20 Prospects Thread

    You're only hoping so because you want to bash America with him next time you're in Europe! *the tone of this post is jovial, not mean spirited!*
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    Ray Sheppard traded for $1

    It's the offseason so I typically spend some time getting sucked down a black hole of hockey history online. I always enjoy finding interesting little tidbits here and there. For example - did you know this year two former Red Wings were inducted into the Hall of Fame (albeit not as Red Wings themselves)? Vaclav Nedomansky led the Red Wings in scoring in 78-79. The backup goalie on that team? The other HOF inductee, Jim Rutherford. Anyway, I was reading up on Igor Larionov when I saw that after his stretch with the Red Wings, in 00-01 he signed as an UFA with Florida Panthers to help set up star, Pavel Bure. He was traded back to us after only 26 games because he wasn't getting along with the coaches and their system. (We traded a first round pick who turned out to be nothing in Yan Golubovsky.) I knew that initially we had traded Ray Sheppard to SJ to get Larionov, but then I saw something rather peculiar. Ray Sheppard was drafted by the Buffalo Sabres where he scored 114 points in 159 games for them. 18 games into the 3rd season, the Sabres traded him to the Rangers for a total of 1 dollar! The very next season is when we signed him as an UFA. I couldn't find any details on the internet so I was just wondering if there are any hockey historians here that could share some details as to what the heck happened for the Sabres to trade a .72/game young star for a single dollar to an in state rival. I know most of us are aware of Kris Draper being traded to us for a dollar, but the Jets were sending him back and forth to the AHL and OHL so it's a bit different.
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    Seattle

    I've noticed people who don't travel get this idea from internet comment sections. If you actually went out into the world yourself, you'd find that the world loves America. Our soft power is incredibly powerful.
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    Mantha Blossoming

    I was kind of irked when we made this trade because we lost Quincey on waivers to begin with. But the cool thing about this trade - Quincey was actually playing for Colorado but they would not deal him to us. So instead, Yzerman traded for him and then IMMEDIATELY traded him to us. Heard Colorado was pissed... So that kind of makes it better!
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    Buyout

    Not sure if this is well known or not, but I find these NTC terms interesting. Here is Abbys: CLAUSE DETAILS: NTC in 2016-17 to 2019-20; Modified NTC in 2020-21 to 2022-23 (If Detroit misses playoffs or Abdelkader is not among the Top 9 F in TOI, he can be traded to any team - clause resets in each of the last 3 years) Here is Helm's CLAUSE DETAILS: Full NTC throughout (2018-19: NTC may be voided between June 15, 2019 & 2019-20 NHL Trade deadline, if player is not in the Top 9 F in TOI, or if team does not qualify for the playoffs | 2019-20: NTC may be voided between June 15, 2020 & final day of the contract, if player is not in the Top 9 F in TOI, or if team does not qualify for the playoffs) Nielsen has a modified 10 team no trade list starting this season Ericsson has a M-NTC starting this season that allows him to submit a 19 no trade list! DeKeyser has a NTC until the season after next where he has a 10 team no trade clause like Nielsen. Daley has a NTC until next season. It is modified 10 days before the trade deadline where he can supply a 15 team no trade list (Wow! he could put damn near every playoff team making it impossible for us to trade him next season if he wanted to!) Source: CapFriendly.com I have a question if anyone knows the answer to it: Can we trade Abby whilst retaining part of his cap hit on our books for the remainder of his contract? For example, this year when we traded Nyquist we retained something like 1.25mil so his salary would fit in SJ's cap. Can we do that, but for multiple seasons if we can find a trade partner to take him for say, half his salary?
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    OHL Racism

    Jesus dude - haven't heard it put this way before, but it made a lot of sense.
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    Official 2018 NHL Amateur Entry Draft Discussion Thread

    So Carolina Montreal and who else in the top 3? Safe to assume Buffalo?
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    Official 2018 NHL Amateur Entry Draft Discussion Thread

    Has it started yet? Is anyone going to update us as it goes along?
  13. martyrme19

    Sedin Twins Calling it a Career After Season

    Wait - is really likely that Crawford's career is done??? I mean, that's pretty crazy if so.
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    Official 2018 Off Season *Rebuild* Thread

    Kovalchuk - Jagr - Vanek Let's make it happen in '08!
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    Sedin Twins Calling it a Career After Season

    Wow I'm glad you said something - i didn't even watch the video all the way through. Could be wrong, but I doubt officials in other sports show that kind of respect to players! Ya, I know now what happened....I just felt that there was no mention of what was happening at the time, like we just kind of forgot about him until one day everyone was like, "Oh ya, Franzen's career is done, no biggie."