How My Love 4 Hockey Affected My Feelings Towards B-Ball

[thedisappearer 291]

If the are NBA caliber then they get a free ride in college. Even in Canada team doctors can get you out of exams and class while playing sports. I can't even imagine what the NCAA is like when it comes to huge programs like NC and Duke. You probably don't even have to show up if you are the team. Exaggerated a bit maybe but it is not like the majority even get a degree. They all declare themselves for the draft and say f*** school.

You picked the worst two schools for your example. Hell, their kids tend to stay for at least 3 years. I can't remember the last Dukie to declare early. And a majority don't get a degree? So they are just like all North Americans? Got it. Most people don't get a college degree.

[b-random 0]

My contempt for the behavior and attitudes of the players affected my fellings towards the NBA.

It's a great sport, but the NBA sucks, period.

Edited January 25, 2010 by b-random

[zettie85 106]

You picked the worst two schools for your example. Hell, their kids tend to stay for at least 3 years. I can't remember the last Dukie to declare early. And a majority don't get a degree? So they are just like all North Americans? Got it. Most people don't get a college degree.

I mean in huge programs if the aren't the brightest kids the get a pass in their classes. They won't jeopardize the programs success because the kid can't pass his classes.

When it comes to college most people go in with the intentions of getting a degree. Athletes who have a potential of going pro have no interest in getting a degree. You said yourself that they are forced to go to college before they play in the NBA. If that is the case, how many of those guys actually take it seriously? There are some. I'm not throwing everyone in the same group but the majority don't give a s*** and would skip it if they could or if they had other excellent development leagues.

[Barrie 900]

There's a reason why the last 2 minutes of basketball games take forever. It's because those are the only 2 minutes in the entire game that matter. The rest of the game it just a bunch of guys trying to prove how cool they are.

You made me laugh, but you speak the truth.

[Barrie 900]

I personally cannot see how anyone can watch what the NBA is today.

Everything about it makes me sick to my stomach.

Personally I think the only player worth watching now is Kobe.

I did however enjoy our 2003-2007 Pistons with Chauncey B-B-B-B-Billups, Hamilton, Sheed, Big Ben, and Prince.

[titanium2 867]

I personally cannot see how anyone can watch what the NBA is today.

Everything about it makes me sick to my stomach.

Does it seem as if the NHL is slowly but surely adopting some of the same methods that make you sick to your stomack?

[thedisappearer 291]

I mean in huge programs if the aren't the brightest kids the get a pass in their classes. They won't jeopardize the programs success because the kid can't pass his classes.

When it comes to college most people go in with the intentions of getting a degree. Athletes who have a potential of going pro have no interest in getting a degree. You said yourself that they are forced to go to college before they play in the NBA. If that is the case, how many of those guys actually take it seriously? There are some. I'm not throwing everyone in the same group but the majority don't give a s*** and would skip it if they could or if they had other excellent development leagues.

But the program won't jeopardize itself to take a dumbass on. (There is a point reverse diminishing returns, I grant) Can you prove your "majority don't give a s***"? I've been asking all thread for numerical evidence and no one has it. Any one have numbers on who's athletes have attended more college time?

[rage 24]

Does it seem as if the NHL is slowly but surely adopting some of the same methods that make you sick to your stomack?

I know you didn't ask me, but these 20 minute video reviews where they have to confer w/ Toronto while they are in Dallas, Texas USA is beyond stupid.

And if what Ken Daniels talked about during the pregame the other day, the "Challenges" become a reality I will puke.

"Yes, let's Challenge that Offsides! Oh damn, we just lost our only timeout."

I mean come on!! And yes, he really did say they were talking about challenging plays like that!!

[pockets 9]

basketball<baseketball

[zettie85 106]

But the program won't jeopardize itself to take a dumbass on. (There is a point reverse diminishing returns, I grant) Can you prove your "majority don't give a s***"? I've been asking all thread for numerical evidence and no one has it. Any one have numbers on who's athletes have attended more college time?

If the next Lebron or Kobe wanted to play for your program but he was dumb as s*** would you send him away? Not if you want to keep your job.

There are no statistics for actual GPA's. The statistics show that everything is peachy and they do whatever it takes to keep the NCAA happy. I mean majority of NBA caliber players not majority of basketball players. It is a formality that the must go through.

[Guest Lidstromboli]

college & pro basketball = lame

shootin some hoops by yourself/with friends = fun

[cusimano_brothers 1,655]

It's not because a Canadian invented it.

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

Also, the cockieness and arrogance of alot of NBA players is a major turn off. (Of course there are hockey players like that, but not as widespread.) Gilbert Arenas and his whole "You can't arrest me, I'm a basketball player" and Latrell Sprewell's rejection of $7 million per year on the grounds of "I've a family to feed" are just mind boggling.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

The fact that I love hockey doesn't affect my feelings toward basketball one bit. I would still think it sucks even if hockey didn't exist.

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

The fact that I love hockey doesn't affect my feelings toward basketball one bit. I would still think it sucks even if hockey didn't exist.

I think its more of the gangsta mentality that has taken over the NBA has ruined it, not the actual sport of basketball.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

I think its more of the gangsta mentality that has taken over the NBA has ruined it, not the actual sport of basketball.

It's not that (although that doesn't help), I just don't like the sport.

[Frozen-Man 144]

I agree and have been saying it for years.

The NBA needs to give teams 3 timeouts per half.

Are these players so stupid, that they need a timeout after each whistle down the stretch? I mean, isn't that what these morons train and practice for?

I think that there should be far less time outs. However, in the NBA each team gets six timeouts for the game game (full time outs, they also get one 20 second time out a half). What is really stupid is that four of the six time outs are mandatory and they have to be used at specific times in each of the quarters and you can't use more than 2 in the final 2 minutes of a half.

The whole process is stupid. I wish they only had a couple of time outs per half (maybe one full and one 20 second time out) and they could take them whenever they wanted. I can't hardly stand to watch the games mostly because of the cockiness and egos that so many of the players have (I love that in hockey if a guy acts like such a cocky jerk somebody is going to punch him, I think that knowing that they will have to answer for their actions tends to help people stay more grounded) but also because like the OP said the last 2 minutes of a game take for ever. Let a lot of the players get punched in the face a few time, remove the majority of the timeouts, and figure out a way to let player substitute within the flow of the game (something else that severely slows down the game) and maybe I might watch it.

Also, the cockieness and arrogance of alot of NBA players is a major turn off. (Of course there are hockey players like that, but not as widespread.) Gilbert Arenas and his whole "You can't arrest me, I'm a basketball player" and Latrell Sprewell's rejection of $7 million per year on the grounds of "I've a family to feed" are just mind boggling.

I think a lot of that comes from not having to worry about this or this :punch:. Those two things really seem to help guys stay grounded.

[hokeychik22 17]

in footyball the last minute of the game feels like 10 minutes are left

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

I played a lot of pickup basketball back in college before I tore my ACL and MCL and certainly enjoyed it. A lot like baseball and golf when I used to play golf, I could play it all day, can't watch it for extended lengths of time.

And in general I'm more of a collegiate sports fan than a professional sports fan. When I was in college I didn't miss many games on either the men's or women's side of my school, even though the men's team was never really that good when I was there. Women's team was almost always in or around the top-25 when I was there. Part of it is enjoying watching basketball to some degree, part of it is just because I love watching sports overall and support my favorite teams rarely missing games.

I'll typically enjoy watching a good college basketball matchup, and if I get an invite to go to a New Orleans Hornets game down here I'll typically go, but I just have very little interest getting into the NBA until the playoffs start, not even locally with the Hornets down here. Where I live, a little north of New Orleans itself, is a different cable provider which doesn't show the sports channel at all for New Orleans Sports (like Fox Sports Detroit, etc.). That's a shame. If they did, I would certainly leave it on during games at night when I'm at home doing other stuff. But even then, I just can't get into it like some others do down here.

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

I think a lot of that comes from not having to worry about this or this . Those two things really seem to help guys stay grounded

And oftentimes, basketball players are usually worried not about the game, but afterwards about getting to the with

[rage 24]

I think that there should be far less time outs. However, in the NBA each team gets six timeouts for the game game (full time outs, they also get one 20 second time out a half). What is really stupid is that four of the six time outs are mandatory and they have to be used at specific times in each of the quarters and you can't use more than 2 in the final 2 minutes of a half.

The whole process is stupid. I wish they only had a couple of time outs per half (maybe one full and one 20 second time out) and they could take them whenever they wanted. I can't hardly stand to watch the games mostly because of the cockiness and egos that so many of the players have (I love that in hockey if a guy acts like such a cocky jerk somebody is going to punch him, I think that knowing that they will have to answer for their actions tends to help people stay more grounded) but also because like the OP said the last 2 minutes of a game take for ever. Let a lot of the players get punched in the face a few time, remove the majority of the timeouts, and figure out a way to let player substitute within the flow of the game (something else that severely slows down the game) and maybe I might watch it.

I think a lot of that comes from not having to worry about this or this :punch: . Those two things really seem to help guys stay grounded.

OH man, that's an overall GREAT post!! lol

[b.shanafan14 733]

When I was a kid I used to love to watch basketball, but now I can't stand it. When final scores are 102-105 its hard to see the first 3 quarters as anything other than useless filler. "Yay! I scored the first 2 points!"

I have also always had the complaint about the last 2 minutes or so in basketball. In bound, foul, free throw, repeat for 15-20 minutes.

Then again, I hate the feeling that nowadays in football basically any team can win the Super Bowl based on a good game or two. As a Lions fan, I've just learned to love good football, no matter who is playing, and games too often these days are won or lost on choke more than battle, battle, battle, time! Last nights game was a perfect example, the Vikings were the better team and they choked huge, take away one or two of their ridiculous amount of turn overs and that game is won in regulation and a good game.

And don't even get me started on the "coin toss to see who gets to win in OT" system in the NFL. They should either switch to the college football system of OT or make it so you can't win on a field goal, have to go for a touchdown, especially since today's kicker is effective from 54+ yards.

I love football and hockey, but there is a lot of problems with both. Basketball and baseball are a total loss to me.

[oldredbarnman 13]

There's a reason why the last 2 minutes of basketball games take forever. It's because those are the only 2 minutes in the entire game that matter. The rest of the game it just a bunch of guys trying to prove how cool they are.

As David Brenner(he was comedian in the 1970s and 80s) used to say, "Give each team 100 points, and play 2 minutes."

[BeeRYCE 2]

Now that the Piston's are crap, I have lost interest.

I have to admit though, watching Lebron is very exciting... He just explodes, and you expect highlight reel plays out of him every 2 minutes. I also like watching the dunk competition but that's about it.

Also, I'll occasionally watch highlight videos of MJ, Magic, and Pistol Pete on YouTube.

Edited January 25, 2010 by BeeRYCE

[T.Low 1,011]

I think its more of the gangsta mentality that has taken over the NBA has ruined it, not the actual sport of basketball.

Exactly. It's a great sport to play. Running the offense is not that unlike hockey. Except that hockey is so much faster that everybody nees to be in on every play at all times. Basketball can isolate a guy or two while the others catch a breather.

The intensity of hockey is high and constant; almost that of motocross or Enduro racing. Basketball the intensity is not nearly as constant.

Baseball is even slower. It's so slow it's like city work: you got one guy working while the rest of them stand around doing nothing.

Incidently: I went on a 5 hr enduro ride with some friends Saturday and my heart rate monitor got up to 185 and I burned 3150 calories. No wonder we're always so hungry after riding.

Edited January 25, 2010 by T.Low