cmonster 11 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 Okay, first off I am not advocating this but want to get peoples reactions to this. Should the Red Wings trade Kronwall? With our cap struggles, is Kronwall untouchable? My reasoning is that if Kronwall was traded for a younger defenseman with skill would you do it? The only reason I pose this question is the frequency in which Kronwall seems to injure himself. Would it perhaps be wise to trade him while his value is quite high? Hypothetically, say trade Kronwall for Drew Doughty. Would you do it? Again, I reiterate, not advocating it, just asking for people's reactions. I know some feel that he is the heir apparent to Nick Lidstrom. But, I don't think that he has the durability to be counted on in the same way Lidstrom has been counted on. His skill level is quite high but not quite Lidstrom level (I can agree that it is possibly no one will ever be on Lidstrom's level). His defensive play and effectiveness rely on him playing a bit of a reckless style which has been detrimental to his health. And his hockey sense and hockey IQ are maybe slightly above average. So please, weigh in, and tell me what you think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted February 14, 2010 (edited) I love kronwall... But. Kronwall for Doughty oh yes but it's not possible.. it's like Kronwall+Filppula+1st round pick.. considering his potential,, current upside and his young age. Edited February 14, 2010 by mindfly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmonster 11 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 I love kronwall... But. Kronwall for Doughty oh yes but it's not possible.. it's like Kronwall+Filppula+1st round pick.. considering his potential,, current upside and his young age. I just threw out Doughty as an example. I know it wouldn't be a straight one for one swap. I'm just saying Kronwall + ? for young talented d-man + ? And having Kronwall and the other young defenseman as core pieces of a trade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 i don't think we should trade kroner big nick and rafalski are coming to the end of there roads and lil nick is going to be our guy. It's hard to find a guy that can put up points like he did last season 51PTS in 80GP and that was on the second pairing. Also a guy that can put the fear into the other teams with his big hits. I would much rather move stuart over kronwall just my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 If nothing else, tonight alone, proved how important Kronner is to the Red Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kwame_Kilpatrick 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 no i like him too much, plus the swedish spirit would be gone, doughty wouldnt have it. i would rather create our own young players than get them from another club, also if you notice usually young talents are not traded, only middle age and older. maybe this summer will be a change as nicklas backstrom is now a free agent maybe! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted February 14, 2010 derp a derp derp, duh derp derp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 (edited) Strange this is brought up. Last night I dreamt that the Wings traded Kronner to Florida for Ballard and Vokoun. Don't know what that was all about. EDIT: Nothing like taking on 10 million dollars in salary, eh? Edited February 14, 2010 by Yzerfan1999 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 kronwall for johnson and simmonds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 from what i saw at the game tonight, kronner's injury is gone. i wouldnt trade hime, he's gotta try and fill lids' shoes when he retires and he would have seen what it takes to lead like lids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 If they're going to trade Kronwall, then they'll probably target someone who is just as smart and less injury prone. But other than that I hope they don't. He is really important to the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevieisthebest 80 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 Don't even puts those thoughts in my head Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 Yea, sure, he might miss a few games a year, but where else are you going to find a d-man that can put up 50 points and deliver big center ice hits for 3 mil a year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 Trade Kronner? I think not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 I think Kronwall at 3M is pretty damn good deal. That could also mean that he has more trade value. Can he be the next leading defenseman in this team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted February 14, 2010 Kronwall will be good for two more seasons atleast, i'm sure he will demand around phaneuf money or just under that when his current contract is up...that's how it works, right now he has an awesome contract perhaps underpaid but it's all good for us right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
South Dakota wings fan 7 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 I doubt it. This organization is one thing, sometimes to a fault, and that is loyal. Rafi, Stuart, and Kronwall's contracts all expire in the same year. I suspect that Kronwall will be the centerpiece of the D corps the following season, unless Lidstrom is still playing at a high level. Depending on the salary cap at that time, I think Kronner will receive a raise, somewhere in th 5 mill range on his next contract. I could also see one of two scenarios. He either signs a Z or Mule type deal or signs a deal that puts him at the age of 34 when it is up so they aren't tied to a cap hit if he retires later. Of course, who knows what the CBA will look like in 2 years...it could be completely different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 I think my stance goes without saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyTownHouligan 57 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 Strange this is brought up. Last night I dreamt that the Wings traded Kronner to Florida for Ballard and Vokoun. Don't know what that was all about. EDIT: Nothing like taking on 10 million dollars in salary, eh? Thats also weird i had a nightmare that the wings traded franzen to philly for mike richards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 No. Kronwall is the future defensive leader when Nick Sr. retires. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 (edited) I would trade him depending what it is for. A high end 1st round pick like 1-5 or a Doughty type of D man. Other then those two I wouldn't touch him even though I think he is injury prone. Edited February 14, 2010 by dragonballgtz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 I can't see kronwall asking for that much of a raise maybe to 5 max, ive noticed that guys that are drafted and brought up in the orginization usually aren't greedy its the ones we trade/sign that are the ones that typically ask for way more then they should get. But the guys that have been in the system darfted and what not like the system and want to stay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetts 236 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 I really think Kronwall is grossly under appreciated here. If we can get a young star player (like Kovalchuk caliber), I'd be willing to send him as part of the package. But unless we're getting something really good in return, he's essential to our success, both now and more importantly in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites