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Jagr coming back for next season?

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Here we see again blind "video game GM" thinking. There is more to a decision on a player than just his stats.

Jagr is a lockerroom cancer, is often lazy, and in general often has a bad attitude.

Yup. I don't care if he can put up 500 points a season. A player scoring a lot doesn't win championships, nor is it inherently good for a team's chemistry and morale, both in the locker room and on the ice. He reminds me a lot of Fedorov when he was on this team. He is very talented and can do a lot, but is far too prone to said lazy spells, just like Fedorov, and given his attitude as he's got older, on top of the salary he's been seeking, I don't want him on this team.

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Yup. I don't care if he can put up 500 points a season. A player scoring a lot doesn't win championships, nor is it inherently good for a team's chemistry and morale, both in the locker room and on the ice. He reminds me a lot of Fedorov when he was on this team. He is very talented and can do a lot, but is far too prone to said lazy spells, just like Fedorov, and given his attitude as he's got older, on top of the salary he's been seeking, I don't want him on this team.

Perhaps with him being older and different (idk) and going to the Red Wings, the locker room will change him? I really think Jagr would fit well in this system offensively (great puck control and uses his body very well), and can perhaps pick it up on the defense a little better. But offensively he'd pick up where Hossa left off IMO. Perhaps being in a locker room with Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, etc., his mindset will be different than it was with teams in the past.

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First, Jagr with Datsyuk would be a lethal combo. The one thing that bothers me about this current Red Wings team is that no one is selfish, we need a sniper. Someone who looks to shoot first, pass later. Someone who can score at will. Jagr is one of those guys. Our team is loaded with guys who are good both ways. Except, if you look at most teams they have guys who are great offensively, average or worse defensively and guys who are horrible offensively and great defensively. You need that balance. Without that balance you end up with a team that struggles to score and guys who are good at everything and great at nothing. IMO Jagr at 4 mil for 1 year is a steal. Would instantly make this team better.

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I don't know why people think Jagr is a lockerroom cancer, IIRC that talk started when he was on the Rangers, and that entire locker room was effed up, basically it was a collection of overpaid underacheivers with no real leadership, and Jagr as the captain of that squad took more than his fair share of the blame.

That being said, if Jagr were to take the kind of money we could realistically offer (3-4 million), he would be a great addition, and as others have said every forward on the Red Wings does not have to be Selke-quality, we have just gotten used to that over the years.

I doubt it would happen, but I would not be opposed to seeing #68 in a Red Wings jersey (though Kolosov would have to change his number in training camp)

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I don't know why people think Jagr is a lockerroom cancer, IIRC that talk started when he was on the Rangers, and that entire locker room was effed up, basically it was a collection of overpaid underacheivers with no real leadership, and Jagr as the captain of that squad took more than his fair share of the blame.

That being said, if Jagr were to take the kind of money we could realistically offer (3-4 million), he would be a great addition, and as others have said every forward on the Red Wings does not have to be Selke-quality, we have just gotten used to that over the years.

I doubt it would happen, but I would not be opposed to seeing #68 in a Red Wings jersey (though Kolosov would have to change his number in training camp)

Then Drury took over and Rangers fans only now realize how big he was. Overpaid Drury, Gomez and Redden (+ Rozsival and aging Naslund) were the cancer. Jagr worked his ass off when others just couldn't.

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How loosely we toss around the term cancer in sports. Anyone who is even slightly perceived to be less than Yzerman-esque is suddenly a cancer to someone. C'mon.

Jagr was and still is an encouraging, good natured teammate. Always has been.

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