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Will Filppula hit 40 points?

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  1. 1. Will Filppula Hit 40 points


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He's on quite the ridiculous tear right now, it's insane.

3, 2, 3.

8 points and +8 in 3 games, three!!

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I voted no just because it's very unlikely he'll get on a point per game tear for the rest of the year. Hope he does, just not the odds. Think he'll get close though.

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His production the last 3 games would give him about 218 points on a full 82 game season. I think it's fair to say that's realistic if he stays healthy next year.

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His production the last 3 games would give him about 218 points on a full 82 game season. I think it's fair to say that's realistic if he stays healthy next year.

:D Post of the day!

Let's not forget his +218 rating also.

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Caught a big one here. Get it fried and battered with some chips (fries) and we've got ourselves a meal here boys.

And David Beckham? Please...this isnt the 90's anymore.

I seriously don't understand this bashing thing. I've never bashed May or anyone of your boys. If you're really a fan of this team then support the players.

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His production the last 3 games would give him about 218 points on a full 82 game season. I think it's fair to say that's realistic if he stays healthy next year.

Im pretty sure Gretzky did something like that. :siren:

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Val needs now 6 points in 9 games.

Anyone care to delete their votes? :)

like I said, I voted no, but close, but I'll GLADLY be wrong if he does... he looked the best he ever has tonight!

Go Val!

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like I said, I voted no, but close, but I'll GLADLY be wrong if he does... he looked the best he ever has tonight!

Go Val!

Really? I mean, he didn't get as many points but I guess I still think of Game 4 against the Hawks last year as the best he's ever looked at the NHL level.

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He's on quite the ridiculous tear right now, it's insane.

3, 2, 3.

8 points and +8 in 3 games, three!!

Add a 0 to the points and the +/- and you got what Hudler would have put up. :cool:

On a serious note, he's been great, and has really stepped s*** up. I can finally see the potential many have been fawning over (the "PPG Potential"), and now can actually understand why people would say that.

Hopefully he keeps it up in the PO's, if he develops into a legit first line producer, that is huge.

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EasyBakeOven is just using humor to disguise the fact that he thinks Flip is better than Huds!

Oh, in all seriousness, I've felt for a long time that Filppula was going to be a more complete and arguably better player, I just think Hudler had more top-end potential, and I still firmly believe he is a better offensive threat. That's not a knock on Flip though, I honestly think that Hudler is one of the top natural talents in the world.

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In the WORLD? REALLY?

Do you honestly think that Hossa has more stick handeling ability and vision than Hudler? Give Hudler his body, and Hudler is Kovalchuck.

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Do you honestly think that Hossa has more stick handeling ability and vision than Hudler? Give Hudler his body, and Hudler is Kovalchuck.

And Kovalchuk is one of the most gifted offensive players in the world...at least until he landed in New Jersey. I can think of 30 players right off the top of my head that would be better than Huds....no, wait....100 players. They haven't perfected that body-swapping technology yet, so we have to judge Hudler as-is.

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Do you honestly think that Hossa has more stick handeling ability and vision than Hudler? Give Hudler his body, and Hudler is Kovalchuck.

you have got to be kidding me.

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And Kovalchuk is one of the most gifted offensive players in the world...at least until he landed in New Jersey. I can think of 30 players right off the top of my head that would be better than Huds....no, wait....100 players. They haven't perfected that body-swapping technology yet, so we have to judge Hudler as-is.

Considering that Hudler was WELL WITHIN the top 100 in scorers, and was top 20 in the league in points per over TOI, I question your ability to back up such a bulls*** claim.

Also, if your reading comprehension wasn't as bad as your hockey talent analysis, you would realise I said Hudler had some of the most PURE TALENT, I.E. Stick Handeling, Vision, Shot Placement, not overall player, or body. Do not put words in my mouth, or anything else for that matter, I'm not your boyfriend.

you have got to be kidding me.

When you watch several hours of film a week for your entire childhood or make it to a a level of Hockey where you get paid than you can refute my talent analysis. Hossa is obviously a better player than Hudler, but most of his strengths were due to his impressive ability to maintain the puck and his ridiculous speed. Hudler has neither of these, but that does not mean he dosen't have more pure talent.

At one point in time Hudler was considered to be of phenom potential, and through the majority of his teens was considered to be one of the players in the world for his age. The only reason he did not dominate more (notice I say more, since he was among league leaders in points per TOI), was due to his body, if you gave Hossa Hudler's body he would most probably not make it to the NHL.

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When you watch several hours of film a week for your entire childhood or make it to a a level of Hockey where you get paid than you can refute my talent analysis.

This point is complete bulls***. Many of the leagues top coaches never played pro hockey and I have known some pro hockey players who were lucky to get their grade 12. Talent does not equal knowledge.

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This point is complete bulls***. Many of the leagues top coaches never played pro hockey and I have known some pro hockey players who were lucky to get their grade 12. Talent does not equal knowledge.

Coaching ability does not equal knowledge either. The two are not synonymous. Many of the great players turned out to be s***ty coaches because they had it all come naturally to them, and many of the great coaches don't have much experience, but at the NHL level of play, there are so many more specialists team hire to work on certain and specific aspects, whereas the head coaching role really is more of a motivation and overall strategy position. Just because a player can't explain how he did it or what to do, does not mean he can not see a player who can do it right.

With that being settled, there is no way you can ever convince me the typical internet fan could understand the game to the same level as someone who played at a high level. You can argue some scouts did not play a high level, but their whole life is watching hockey, this is different than the average poster on this board, the same board whose majority of posters considered Sammuelsson useless, and wanted Datsyuk to be traded for the likes of Doan and Oltesz. It's fine if you disagree, but you will never be able to convince me otherwise, just saying so you don't waste time waiting for me to reply to this again.

There is a difference between watching 70+ games on TV through a viewpoint meant to maximize action than to actually play 80 games along with 150+ practices. It simply isn't fair to compare when one has so much more quality exposure than the other.

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Coaching ability does not equal knowledge either. The two are not synonymous. Many of the great players turned out to be s***ty coaches because they had it all come naturally to them, and many of the great coaches don't have much experience, but at the NHL level of play, there are so many more specialists team hire to work on certain and specific aspects, whereas the head coaching role really is more of a motivation and overall strategy position. Just because a player can't explain how he did it or what to do, does not mean he can not see a player who can do it right.

With that being settled, there is no way you can ever convince me the typical internet fan could understand the game to the same level as someone who played at a high level. You can argue some scouts did not play a high level, but their whole life is watching hockey, this is different than the average poster on this board, the same board whose majority of posters considered Sammuelsson useless, and wanted Datsyuk to be traded for the likes of Doan and Oltesz. It's fine if you disagree, but you will never be able to convince me otherwise, just saying so you don't waste time waiting for me to reply to this again.

You can't win an argument just because you "played the game". LOTS of people on this board played the game.

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You can't win an argument just because you "played the game". LOTS of people on this board played the game.

1) That was mearly one of my arguments, you ignored the part about Hudler being a top 20 points per TOI producer, or the many other highly credited scouts and analysits who slapped Hudler as a future star, Including Bob Mckeanzie and pretty much every single good draft service, which many pegged him as a top 10 pick a few years before his draft. As I said earlier, try to imagine Hossa playing with Hudler's body... I have a very hard time thinking he would be anything more than fringe player.

2) Not trying to sound pompous, but I sincerley doubt that LOTS of consistant posters here played the game at the level I did (and if you doubt my claims, PM me and I will tell you who I am as well as provide ample proof). This is not meant to come off as bragging, but I have been on the same Ice as several players who are NHL bound or in the NHL already,and held my own, as well as spending 250+ days a year at a rink, for over 10 years. I was not the most naturally talented player, and in fact my lack of proper reaction was one of the main reason's I never was more than a role player in Juniors, but I doubt very many other people on this board have had to watch hours of footage of players away from the puck to learn great postioning, or have just been around Hockey as much in general. Watching the game on TV, and following the puck vision is nice and all, but there is so much more than that. I'm not even trying to sound elitiest, it's just common sense if you spend more time around a higher level of product that you will pick up things just by osmosis, never mind the incessent coaching, or drills.

Watching 80+ games of hockey from a vantage view meant to optimize action moments is not the same as watching a fair amount of NHL games also, as well as playing 80+, as well as 150+ practices most complete with a least a minor amount of film sessions.

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Do you honestly think that Hossa has more stick handeling ability and vision than Hudler? Give Hudler his body, and Hudler is Kovalchuck.

That's pretty insulting to Hudler, man.

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