Nero 20 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 2007: Penguins are in financial trouble. Talks of relocation and new management. Jim Balsillie puts in a bid. Penguins go from not qualifying for the Stanley Cup Playoffs to Champions in four years. 2009: Coyotes are in financial trouble. Talks of relocation and new management. Jim Balsillie puts in a bid. Coyotes go from not qualifying for the playoffs in six seasons to clinching a playoff spot in the top 4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted March 29, 2010 2007: Penguins are in financial trouble. Talks of relocation and new management. Jim Balsillie puts in a bid. Penguins go from not qualifying for the Stanley Cup Playoffs to Champions in four years. 2009: Coyotes are in financial trouble. Talks of relocation and new management. Jim Balsillie puts in a bid. Coyotes go from not qualifying for the playoffs in six seasons to clinching a playoff spot in the top 4. Coyotes doesn't have a crosby or malkin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlakKy 58 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 Coincidence. While it's a topic of discussion: I think Balsille is an ideal owner for an NHL franchise. He has bottomless pockets, loves the game and a proper business sense.. something that got him in trouble when he approached the Phoenix situation somewhat underhanded. I just can't believe that guy doesn't own Nashville, Pittsburgh, Phoenix, Atlanta, Columbus or one of the Floridian franchises yet. 1 ManLuv4Clears reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
softshoes 83 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 Coincidence. While it's a topic of discussion: I think Balsille is an ideal owner for an NHL franchise. He has bottomless pockets, loves the game and a proper business sense.. something that got him in trouble when he approached the Phoenix situation somewhat underhanded. I just can't believe that guy doesn't own Nashville, Pittsburgh, Phoenix, Atlanta, Columbus or one of the Floridian franchises yet. I know why. He wants to move them up north. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 May 2007- Balsille is reported to have struck a tentative deal with the Predators. The Preds stop wearing mustard-coloured uniforms. Not only does he have the midas touch, he also has fashion sense. 2 Drake_Marcus and Lidstrom for life reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlakKy 58 Report post Posted March 29, 2010 I know why. He wants to move them up north. Which would be a good thing because then the rest of the league could stop babysitting one more franchise. Those franchises aren't fooling anyone... they are not profitable. If the NHL ever wants to stop being a Mickey Mouse league they need to first admit that they are... like how alcoholics need to first admit they have a problem before they recover. 1 ManLuv4Clears reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted March 30, 2010 Having a couple of superstars and 1st overall picks is the real difference here. Also, Phoenix hasn't been THAT terrible. They've been bad, but not as bad as the Pens were several years back. Also, if the Yotes lose in the first round I feel like the minor hype that surrounds them now will evaporate pretty quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted March 30, 2010 Related note....was listening to the radio today and the rumour I was hearing is that the number Riensdorf is thinking about in terms of purchasing the Coyotes is $60 million (quite different than the $230 million or whatever it was that Basille offered). So, the NHL purhcases for $140 million, loses $20 million (this is what the NHL suggests they'll lose this year, which I seriously doubt, it's gotta be more than that). Anyway, assuming that's right, that's $160 million put in by the NHL and then sell for $60 million = $100 million loss....to be funded by the other 29 owners.....how can they be happy about that? Of course, these numbers may be way off, but either way, the other owners are paying out of their pockets here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlakKy 58 Report post Posted March 30, 2010 I can't believe the bankruptcy judge filed in favor of the league... isn't it his job to protect the shareholders and make sure they recoup most of their money if bankruptcy is declared? Now I realize the argument is that the league wasn't bankrupt and the coyotes weren't the owner's property (sounds weird typing that), but then why was the case even taken to bankruptcy court? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted March 30, 2010 Related note....was listening to the radio today and the rumour I was hearing is that the number Riensdorf is thinking about in terms of purchasing the Coyotes is $60 million (quite different than the $230 million or whatever it was that Basille offered). So, the NHL purhcases for $140 million, loses $20 million (this is what the NHL suggests they'll lose this year, which I seriously doubt, it's gotta be more than that). Anyway, assuming that's right, that's $160 million put in by the NHL and then sell for $60 million = $100 million loss....to be funded by the other 29 owners.....how can they be happy about that? Of course, these numbers may be way off, but either way, the other owners are paying out of their pockets here. Basille's offer looked great to the layman. It was a giant cash number. However the numbers, involving debt, current employ, Glendale, etc... comparing the deals, without getting waist deep in numbers, it's hard to tell the advantages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted March 30, 2010 Balsillie's offer was to purchase the team and move them to Hamilton. But moreover, he was trying to get the judge to force the League to allow him to purchase the team and allow the move, despite the fact that the League bylaws state that the League must approve all purchases and all moves. Balsillie was trying to basically backdoor the League rules just to get a team in his hometown. His whole "Make It Seven" campaign as total bulls*** also, because he only cared about a team in Hamilton; he didn't want a team in Winnipeg or Nova Scotia or Quebec or Saskatoon or anywhere else. He would only settle for Hamilton. He simply wanted to rally Canadian support behind him. Lets look at some realistic stuff: Bettman, and therefore the NHL Board of Governors, has said that if Phoenix moves, it would be back to Winnipeg. More realistically, let's see the League add two expansion teams; Seattle and Winnipeg are notable cities with quite a bit of hockey history behind them. So now we would have 32 teams. Perhaps... 1))Anaheim, Calgary, Edmonton, Los Angeles, San Jose, Seattle, Vancouver, Winnipeg 2)Chicago, Colorado, Detroit, Minnesota, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, Toronto 3)Boston, Buffalo, Montreal, New Jersey, NY Islanders, NY Rangers, Ottawa 4)Atlanta, Carolina, Columbus, Dallas, Florida, Nashville, Tampa Bay, Washington Admittedly, it's not perfect for travel. But it's only four divisions, compared to the following eight, which might be more travel-friendly: WEST 1) Anaheim, Los Angeles, Colorado, San Jose 2) Calgary, Edmonton, Seattle, Vancouver 3) Dallas, Minnesota, Phoenix, Winnipeg 4) Chicago, Columbus, Nashville, St.Louis EAST 1) Atlanta, Carolina, Florida, Tampa Bay 2) Boston, Montreal, Philadephia, Pittsburgh 3) Buffalo, Detroit, Ottawa, Toronto 4) New Jersey, NY Islanders, NY Rangers, Washington Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted March 30, 2010 Balsillie's offer was to purchase the team and move them to Hamilton. But moreover, he was trying to get the judge to force the League to allow him to purchase the team and allow the move, despite the fact that the League bylaws state that the League must approve all purchases and all moves. Balsillie was trying to basically backdoor the League rules just to get a team in his hometown. His whole "Make It Seven" campaign as total bulls*** also, because he only cared about a team in Hamilton; he didn't want a team in Winnipeg or Nova Scotia or Quebec or Saskatoon or anywhere else. He would only settle for Hamilton. He simply wanted to rally Canadian support behind him. Lets look at some realistic stuff: Bettman, and therefore the NHL Board of Governors, has said that if Phoenix moves, it would be back to Winnipeg. More realistically, let's see the League add two expansion teams; Seattle and Winnipeg are notable cities with quite a bit of hockey history behind them. So now we would have 32 teams. Perhaps... 1))Anaheim, Calgary, Edmonton, Los Angeles, San Jose, Seattle, Vancouver, Winnipeg 2)Chicago, Colorado, Detroit, Minnesota, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, Toronto 3)Boston, Buffalo, Montreal, New Jersey, NY Islanders, NY Rangers, Ottawa 4)Atlanta, Carolina, Columbus, Dallas, Florida, Nashville, Tampa Bay, Washington Admittedly, it's not perfect for travel. But it's only four divisions, compared to the following eight, which might be more travel-friendly: WEST 1) Anaheim, Los Angeles, Colorado, San Jose 2) Calgary, Edmonton, Seattle, Vancouver 3) Dallas, Minnesota, Phoenix, Winnipeg 4) Chicago, Columbus, Nashville, St.Louis EAST 1) Atlanta, Carolina, Florida, Tampa Bay 2) Boston, Montreal, Philadephia, Pittsburgh 3) Buffalo, Detroit, Ottawa, Toronto 4) New Jersey, NY Islanders, NY Rangers, Washington This is like in 2020 right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted March 30, 2010 WEST 1) Anaheim, Los Angeles, Colorado, San Jose 2) Calgary, Edmonton, Seattle, Vancouver 3) Dallas, Minnesota, Phoenix, Winnipeg 4) Chicago, Columbus, Nashville, St.Louis EAST 1) Atlanta, Carolina, Florida, Tampa Bay 2) Boston, Montreal, Philadephia, Pittsburgh 3) Buffalo, Detroit, Ottawa, Toronto 4) New Jersey, NY Islanders, NY Rangers, Washington You really, really, love the idea of 32 teams... Scrap (or don't create) 6 of the bolded teams and I'd be happy. It's the time for growth and expansion, but not in the entertainment industry. Definitely not in a league that is already too large and long for the bandwagon fan to follow. Do you somehow expect these new teams to add new unknown superstars to support them? How many teams can Crosby, sorry NHL, advertise for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted March 30, 2010 Balsillie's offer was to purchase the team and move them to Hamilton. But moreover, he was trying to get the judge to force the League to allow him to purchase the team and allow the move, despite the fact that the League bylaws state that the League must approve all purchases and all moves. Balsillie was trying to basically backdoor the League rules just to get a team in his hometown. His whole "Make It Seven" campaign as total bulls*** also, because he only cared about a team in Hamilton; he didn't want a team in Winnipeg or Nova Scotia or Quebec or Saskatoon or anywhere else. He would only settle for Hamilton. He simply wanted to rally Canadian support behind him. Lets look at some realistic stuff: Bettman, and therefore the NHL Board of Governors, has said that if Phoenix moves, it would be back to Winnipeg. More realistically, let's see the League add two expansion teams; Seattle and Winnipeg are notable cities with quite a bit of hockey history behind them. So now we would have 32 teams. Perhaps... 1))Anaheim, Calgary, Edmonton, Los Angeles, San Jose, Seattle, Vancouver, Winnipeg 2)Chicago, Colorado, Detroit, Minnesota, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, Toronto 3)Boston, Buffalo, Montreal, New Jersey, NY Islanders, NY Rangers, Ottawa 4)Atlanta, Carolina, Columbus, Dallas, Florida, Nashville, Tampa Bay, Washington Admittedly, it's not perfect for travel. But it's only four divisions, compared to the following eight, which might be more travel-friendly: WEST 1) Anaheim, Los Angeles, Colorado, San Jose 2) Calgary, Edmonton, Seattle, Vancouver 3) Dallas, Minnesota, Phoenix, Winnipeg 4) Chicago, Columbus, Nashville, St.Louis EAST 1) Atlanta, Carolina, Florida, Tampa Bay 2) Boston, Montreal, Philadephia, Pittsburgh 3) Buffalo, Detroit, Ottawa, Toronto 4) New Jersey, NY Islanders, NY Rangers, Washington if those were the divisions, Winnipeg would be swapped with Seattle for sure. not sure if you got a map handy, but Winnipeg is a 12 hour drive from the likes of Edmonton and Calgary. While Vancouver and Seattle are within spitting distance, it wouldn't make any sense to have Winnipeg in a division with Dallas and Phoenix. maybe minnesota, but not the other 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barbra345 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2023 the perfect meal for your mind and body! Packed with wholesome ingredients and designed to nourish your brain, this food product is a delicious and convenient way to fuel your day. Whether you're looking for a quick breakfast on the go or a satisfying lunch at your desk, "Food for Thought" has got you covered. So why settle for boring and unhealthy options when you can enjoy a tasty meal that's good for you? Try "Food for Thought" today and see the difference it can make in your life! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted June 8, 2023 Food Spam. great Share this post Link to post Share on other sites