king_malice 17 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 I heard today on the Radio and tonight on a Canadian sports show that the Ducks could be in Cap trouble this off-season and might not be able to lock up Bobby Ryan. Im pretty sure he is a RFA and im not to sure how it works in getting a RFA and what we would have to give to get him but i would lovve to get him. Franzen-Zetterberg-Holmstrom Hudler-Datsyuk-Ryan Cleary-Filppula-Miller/Bertuzzi(if cheap enough) Eaves-Abdelkader-Helm Draper 2 Reds4Life and TheDetroitRedWings reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 No way we can afford him. 1 Ram reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Dats 'N Homer 81 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 I heard today on the Radio and tonight on a Canadian sports show that the Ducks could be in Cap trouble this off-season and might not be able to lock up Bobby Ryan. Im pretty sure he is a RFA and im not to sure how it works in getting a RFA and what we would have to give to get him but i would lovve to get him. Franzen-Zetterberg-Holmstrom Hudler-Datsyuk-Ryan Cleary-Filppula-Miller/Bertuzzi(if cheap enough) Eaves-Abdelkader-Helm Draper I dont see this as even possible. I dont think we have alot of cap space ourselves which means that any offer we make to him, anahiem can probably match. PLUS hes like the future of the franchise, so im sure they would trade someone else just to increase capspace to resign him. Dont get me wrong, i would love to see it, i just dont this its ganna happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicaldatsyuk 6 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 this would be soooooooo tight. i dont think its possible though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 does anyone know what we would have to give the Ducks for him ? his salary was 765,000 and his cap hit was 1.9mill this season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted June 10, 2010 I heard today on the Radio and tonight on a Canadian sports show that the Ducks could be in Cap trouble this off-season and might not be able to lock up Bobby Ryan. Im pretty sure he is a RFA and im not to sure how it works in getting a RFA and what we would have to give to get him but i would lovve to get him. Franzen-Zetterberg-Holmstrom Hudler-Datsyuk-Ryan Cleary-Filppula-Miller/Bertuzzi(if cheap enough) Eaves-Abdelkader-Helm Draper He's a stud on the ice, and he's young, and so I really doubt the Ducks would not match pretty much any offer sheets from other teams. I imagine that they'd only choose to let him go if some lower-tier team offered him a mammoth contract, as the size of that offers sheet would mean many high picks going the way of Anaheim. It's just not possible for the Wings, and yanking him away from Anaheim anyway would entail selling the team's draft future for some time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 (edited) ducks roster/cap http://www.thefourthperiod.com/salarycap/ana.html 31.8 mill locked up this off-season and have like 14UFA and like 4RFA Edited June 10, 2010 by king_malice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted June 10, 2010 i heard on the radio 1 Lidstrom for life reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 does anyone know what we would have to give the Ducks for him ? his salary was 765,000 and his cap hit was 1.9mill this season This was for 09-10 season, but I think it's the same still. Compensation is based off the cap hit of the contract he signs. $994,433 or below - No Compensation $994,434 - $1,506,717 - 3rd round pick $1506,718 - $3,013,433 - 2nd round pick $3,013,433 - $4,520,150 - 1st round pick, 3rd round pick $4,520,151 - $6,026,867 - 1st round pick, 2nd round pick, 3rd round pick $6,026,868 - $7,533,584 - Two 1st round picks, 2nd round pick, 3rd round pick Over $7,533,584 - Four 1st round picks But as said earlier, no way we could really afford it. Not even with something like trading Flip or Happy for his rights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DyingAlive 27 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 Get it done Kenny! I want a Ryan Wings Jersey! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swayze 81 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 (edited) ducks roster/cap http://www.thefourthperiod.com/salarycap/ana.html 31.8 mill locked up this off-season and have like 14UFA and like 4RFA That's not accurate though, since Giguere is now in Toronto. The first move the Ducks will make is an 8-year deal for Bobby Ryan, watch. *edit* Hell, that still has PRONGER on there, not updated at all. Edited June 10, 2010 by Swayze Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m) * Bobby Ryan ($3.450m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) Daniel Cleary ($2.800m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m) / Kris Draper ($1.583m) * Justin Abdelkader ($1.000m) / * Darren Helm ($0.850m) / Mattias Ritola ($0.517m) * Patrick Eaves ($0.500m) DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Brian Rafalski ($6.000m) Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) * Andreas Lilja ($1.000m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($0.900m) Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood ($1.417m) / Jimmy Howard ($0.717m) CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion) ROSTER: 22; CAP: $56.8m; PAYROLL: $58.755m; CAP ROOM: $-1.955m BONUSES: $0.000m another question how do they determine the cap hits ? like Franzen salary is 5.5mill and cap hit is only 3.9mill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted June 10, 2010 Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m) * Bobby Ryan ($3.450m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) Daniel Cleary ($2.800m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m) / Kris Draper ($1.583m) * Justin Abdelkader ($1.000m) / * Darren Helm ($0.850m) / Mattias Ritola ($0.517m) * Patrick Eaves ($0.500m) DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Brian Rafalski ($6.000m) Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) * Andreas Lilja ($1.000m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($0.900m) Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood ($1.417m) / Jimmy Howard ($0.717m) CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion) ROSTER: 22; CAP: $56.8m; PAYROLL: $58.755m; CAP ROOM: $-1.955m BONUSES: $0.000m another question how do they determine the cap hits ? like Franzen salary is 5.5mill and cap hit is only 3.9mill There's absolute zip chance that Ryan will only get $3.5m. Zero. Nada. 3 miller76, Uncle Danny and puffy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 I heard today on the Radio and tonight on a Canadian sports show that the Ducks could be in Cap trouble this off-season and might not be able to lock up Bobby Ryan. Im pretty sure he is a RFA and im not to sure how it works in getting a RFA and what we would have to give to get him but i would lovve to get him. Franzen-Zetterberg-Holmstrom Hudler-Datsyuk-Ryan Cleary-Filppula-Miller/Bertuzzi(if cheap enough) Eaves-Abdelkader-Helm Draper Ryan will take big bucks ($5,500,000 a season minimum unless you sell him on an ultra long term contract) to sign. If you get him to a contract Anaheim can't match you can expect the compensation in picks to be crippling. Now if Holland has magic hands and somehow works out a sub $4,500,000 contract that the Ducks can't match I'd have to mail him my first born. There's absolute zip chance that Ryan will only get $3.5m. Zero. Nada. And if he does take that number there's even less than zero chance the Ducks don't match it. 1 Lidstrom for life reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 another question how do they determine the cap hits ? like Franzen salary is 5.5mill and cap hit is only 3.9mill Add up the yearly salaries for the duration of the contract. Divide that sum by the number of years he's signed for. So if this is the contract (numbers here are just made up for illustration's sake): 2010-11: 6mil 2011-12: 6mil 2012-13: 5mil 2013-14: 5mil 2014-15: 4mil 2015-16: 3mil 2016-17: 3mil 2017-18: 2.5mil 2018-19: 2mill 2019-20: 1.5mil that means you're paying $38,000,000 over a 10 year period. That means his cap hit is 3.8 million. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted June 10, 2010 Ryan will take big bucks ($5,500,000 a season minimum unless you sell him on an ultra long term contract) to sign. If you get him to a contract Anaheim can't match you can expect the compensation in picks to be crippling. Now if Holland has magic hands and somehow works out a sub $4,500,000 contract that the Ducks can't match I'd have to mail him my first born. And if he does take that number there's even less than zero chance the Ducks don't match it. What if your first born is a guy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 i know brian burke isn't the GM of the ducks anymore, but it would be hilarious to see that ****** kevin lowe make a ridiculous offer sheet to ryan like he did when he stole penner's fat ass from the ducks....because really guys, f*** the duck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 (edited) i know brian burke isn't the GM of the ducks anymore, but it would be hilarious to see that ****** kevin lowe make a ridiculous offer sheet to ryan like he did when he stole penner's fat ass from the ducks....because really guys, f*** the duck! That's not at all out of the realm of possibility... to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised at all if this did indeed happen... fills a HUGE need for the Oilers and kinda repays the Ducks so to speak... EDIT - oh yea, back to the OP - drugs are bad mm'kay Edited June 10, 2010 by stevkrause Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest screwdahawks Report post Posted June 10, 2010 Add up the yearly salaries for the duration of the contract. Divide that sum by the number of years he's signed for. So if this is the contract (numbers here are just made up for illustration's sake): 2010-11: 6mil 2011-12: 6mil 2012-13: 5mil 2013-14: 5mil 2014-15: 4mil 2015-16: 3mil 2016-17: 3mil 2017-18: 2.5mil 2018-19: 2mill 2019-20: 1.5mil that means you're paying $38,000,000 over a 10 year period. That means his cap hit is 3.8 million. I don't think he would be too happy with those numbers since he is only 23 now and would be making peanuts in his prime. Gonna have to be a lot longer than 10 years. 15to18 years might work??????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAredwingsfan91 28 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 oooh man all us red wings fan can do is just dream dream dream or make it happen on NHL10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted June 10, 2010 And if he does take that number there's even less than zero chance the Ducks don't match it. Maybe he'll take a lower salary to go to a contender. Ha ha ha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 What if your first born is a guy? A promise is a promise. Does UPS care if packages are crying when you drop them off to mail them? Maybe he'll take a lower salary to go to a contender. Ha ha ha. The fallback for all Wings fans playing with CapGeek. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 Filppula for Ryan. Just tried it for my NHL 2010 game. Didn't work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted June 10, 2010 Filppula for Ryan. Just tried it for my NHL 2010 game. Didn't work. Throw in the 2nd round pick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown_Ryan 122 Report post Posted June 11, 2010 Warm-up the "Capologist" GIT-R-DONE!!!!! would be a AWESOME addition Share this post Link to post Share on other sites