Frederick Meyer

[jollymania 162]

Here is a guy completely under the radar, he only made 600,000 last year.

He is about Rafalski's size but grittier and can throw some mean hits for his size and also the old school hipcheck, probably more frequently than anyone besides Ballard.

I think even though he is smaller he would be a good fit in our d core because he plays bigger than he is and comes at a cheap price.

Edited June 13, 2010 by jollymania

[magicaldatsyuk 6]

i actually like this guy, he was only -2 last year on the islanders... do you know how much ice time he gets? or what d-man he is on the islanders

[jollymania 162]

i actually like this guy, he was only -2 last year on the islanders... do you know how much ice time he gets? or what d-man he is on the islanders

-2 on the isles is def a plus, he averaged 16 min a game, i think the isles rotated their D around alot so it is hard to tell what pairing he was normally, especially since Martinek was injured most of the season and Sutton left at the deadline. he was 13th in the league amongst dmen in hitting with 178. 87 blocked shots. 64 GP.

Edited June 13, 2010 by jollymania

[king_malice 17]

I dont know what pair D he is but in 05 with the Flyers he put up 27PTS in 57GP which isnt to bad, the last 5 Isles games his TOI was anywhere between 14min and 23min so my guess is defintly top 4

[irishtemper14+25 11]

looks like how vladdy would play

[magicaldatsyuk 6]

I dont know what pair D he is but in 05 with the Flyers he put up 27PTS in 57GP which isnt to bad, the last 5 Isles games his TOI was anywhere between 14min and 23min so my guess is defintly top 4

yeah i did see that he had really good numbers on the flyers his first yeear and a +10. also hes only 29. have the wings talked about him at all?

[jollymania 162]

In march of this year he averaged 20 min of ice time in 14 gp and was a +2

[titanium2 867]

He got picked up off waivers. Sounds like a Cleary story only it's a dman.

[magicaldatsyuk 6]

freddy meyer- 64gp 15p -2

brad stuart- 82gp 20p -12

[KrazyGangsta 79]

He got picked up off waivers. Sounds like a Cleary story only it's a dman.

Who got picked off waivers and by whom?

[robb himself 143]

I would never have even thought about Meyer...but yeah I'm definately all for it if we can get him for around the 1 mill mark

he played some major minutes for a very subpar Islanders club and only ended up -2. I think that says a lot for him. He can also hit really well and is very positionally sound.

Make it happen Kenny

[Guest Lidstromboli]

freddie meyer is AAAAWWWFFFFFFFUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLL

[Jesusberg 1,256]

freddy meyer- 64gp 15p -2

brad stuart- 82gp 20p -12

To be fair Stuart took on a huge role at the beginning of the year, and I think it tired him out. Let's not forget that he's been a beast in the playoffs as well.

As far as Meyer goes, I saw him when I was looking up suitable #6 defensemen for the team. I was discouraged by his size, but he really seems to hit like he's a bigger guy. Those are only two videos, though, and I wonder if his hits would be more punishing than some of the large "candidates". His added point production would be nice, though.

Also, he's Freddy Meyer IV and he wears #44... he'd have to battle Bertuzzi (assuming he comes back) in a game of checkers for it.

[Echolalia 2,961]

I think he'll be getting a pay raise that the Wings won't be able to afford.

[Jesusberg 1,256]

Who got picked off waivers and by whom?

I play a lot of NHL games on X-box 360, and if I remember right he was on the Isles, they put him on waivers and then Phoenix picked him up. Then Phoenix placed him on waivers and the Isles took him back. It's kind of troublesome that he'd be tossed around like that, though.

[Guest Crymson]

-2 on the isles is def a plus, he averaged 16 min a game, i think the isles rotated their D around alot so it is hard to tell what pairing he was normally, especially since Martinek was injured most of the season and Sutton left at the deadline. he was 13th in the league amongst dmen in hitting with 178. 87 blocked shots. 64 GP.

This is something that people on this website routinely forget: if someone who is flying under the radar has had a great season, we will not be able to get them at the same cheap price.

[king_malice 17]

what about making a trade for Roman Polak STL has alot of good D and young D coming up, Polak makes 1.1mill he's only 24 6'1 225LBS 71GP 21PTS +7

[jollymania 162]

This is something that people on this website routinely forget: if someone who is flying under the radar has had a great season, we will not be able to get them at the same cheap price.

he is 600,000 to start, even if you double his salary it definitely fits in our system

freddie meyer is AAAAWWWFFFFFFFUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLL

good to know, scratch him off the list

[Guest Lidstromboli]

well he hits a lot and block shots so he must be pretty good right? definitely a steal at 600k

[jollymania 162]

well he hits a lot and block shots so he must be pretty good right? definitely a steal at 600k

remember the isles are a terrible team and he was -2 on the season and he has shown offensive upside in the past, could be a guy who fits in the DRW system

To be fair Stuart took on a huge role at the beginning of the year, and I think it tired him out. Let's not forget that he's been a beast in the playoffs as well.

As far as Meyer goes, I saw him when I was looking up suitable #6 defensemen for the team. I was discouraged by his size, but he really seems to hit like he's a bigger guy. Those are only two videos, though, and I wonder if his hits would be more punishing than some of the large "candidates". His added point production would be nice, though.

Also, he's Freddy Meyer IV and he wears #44... he'd have to battle Bertuzzi (assuming he comes back) in a game of checkers for it.

He throws the hipcheck more frequently than the open ice shoulder, but he definitely knows how to step up on guys, and he was 13th among dmen in hits, according to hockeyfights he only has 1 fight to his credit, beating max talbot.

[Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029]

what about making a trade for Roman Polak STL has alot of good D and young D coming up, Polak makes 1.1mill he's only 24 6'1 225LBS 71GP 21PTS +7

I doubt St.Louis will let him go.he's a solid defensive defenseman.I think there's better options than Meyer for a 3rd pairing defenseman as well.

[newfy 695]

If we're looking at this guy saying he's going to be a fairly big hitter, why would we get a 5'10 guy when theres guys out there that will be around the same price, 6'2 and big hitters.

Definitely wouldn't be my first choice.

[jollymania 162]

If we're looking at this guy saying he's going to be a fairly big hitter, why would we get a 5'10 guy when theres guys out there that will be around the same price, 6'2 and big hitters.

Definitely wouldn't be my first choice.

Another option is Kurtis Foster, but he will probably get a larger raise for the reason you stated above and because he got 42 pts last year, Aaron Johnson and John Scott are FAs but they are pretty much pylons and I have yet to see John Scott throw a devastating bodycheck despite his size. I could see Mike Weaver being a possibility but he is older than Meyer and about the same size. The other guy with a comparable amount of hits is Francis Boullion, again, a smaller guy.

the under 900,000$ dman range is incredibly weak and Meyer is probably the best hitter of the crop.

I want Sutton as much as anybody, but I'm trying to look at this realistically, on getting a guy who is cheap but solid and worth the investment.

Edited June 13, 2010 by jollymania

[Lamothe 5]

f I remember right he was on the Isles, they put him on waivers and then Phoenix picked him up. Then Phoenix placed him on waivers and the Isles took him back. It's kind of troublesome that he'd be tossed around like that, though.

That is correct. Freddy Meyer is a good third pairing defensemen who, regardless of his small statue, doesn't mind using his body.

For under or around a mil, I'd love to see him in Detroit at some point.

[newfy 695]

Another option is Kurtis Foster, but he will probably get a larger raise for the reason you stated above and because he got 42 pts last year, Aaron Johnson and John Scott are FAs but they are pretty much pylons. I could see Mike Weaver being a possibility but he is older than Meyer and about the same size. The other guy with a comparable amount of hits is Francis Boullion, again, a smaller guy.

the under 900,000$ dman range is incredibly weak

I want Sutton as much as anybody, but I'm trying to look at this realistically, on getting a guy who is cheap but solid and worth the investment.

I think with the cap going up, Lids, Homer and most likey Bert taking cheaper contracts we'll be able to spend a bit over a million on a dman. Lilja's contract was 1.2 so we can definitely spend that much on a replacement.

That opens up quite a few more possibilites because for around 1 mill to 1.5 mill it makes bigger guys like Exelby, Boynton, and Jurcina possibilites.

If we want a cheap guy that could be a mentor for the younger D-men then someone like Hnidy or Strudwick could be pretty good options.

I really think Strudwick is a good possibility, he had a bad year on an even worst team so for the same price I'm sure he could be signed and whenever I've watched him play he hasn't seemed to bad at all. He's fairly mean as well.