HomeNugget 2 Report post Posted August 24, 2010 Thomas Steen anyone? Steen was an above average player for a long time, but I wouldn't consider him to be in the top ten of anything except a best Jets players list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjm502 165 Report post Posted August 24, 2010 Steen was an above average player for a long time, but I wouldn't consider him to be in the top ten of anything except a best Jets players list. 817 points in 950 games is not to shabby. He could easily take the 9 or 10 spot on anyone's list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGKEIB 32 Report post Posted August 24, 2010 817 points in 950 games is not to shabby. He could easily take the 9 or 10 spot on anyone's list. You need to take the 80s factor into account when using those point totals... In any case Sandström has more goals (including two forty-goal seasons) and an .87 ppg average, compared to Steens .86 average. Also, Sandström was a key factor in our 1997 win I'm not necessarily arguing for his inclusion, merely saying that there are more worthy people than Steen. I don't see who he could replace even if you did want to go with him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted August 25, 2010 I disagree. When you disregard play outside the NHL, Henrik Sedin is a more accomplished player than either Hakan Loob or Mats Naslund. Not statistically he isn't. Last year was a great stats season for him, but he isn't even close to being a PPG career player. Also, he's kind of a lackluster playoff performer. Other than last season, I see those players as being more dominant offensively than him. He's a better defensive forward than people give him credit for, but that's because he plays center and not wing, and that's more of a product of this era. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HomeNugget 2 Report post Posted August 29, 2010 Not statistically he isn't. Last year was a great stats season for him, but he isn't even close to being a PPG career player. Also, he's kind of a lackluster playoff performer. Other than last season, I see those players as being more dominant offensively than him. He's a better defensive forward than people give him credit for, but that's because he plays center and not wing, and that's more of a product of this era. Statistics are meaningless out of context. You can't just look at point totals and draw conclusions based on that. An Art Ross, Hart, and 1st AST trumps everything Hakan Loob and Mats Naslund did combined. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted August 29, 2010 Statistics are meaningless out of context. You can't just look at point totals and draw conclusions based on that. An Art Ross, Hart, and 1st AST trumps everything Hakan Loob and Mats Naslund did combined. I'm sure there's a reason why Mats Naslund and Hakan Loob never won the Hart Trophy or the Art Ross. That reason played in Edmonton in the 80's, and I hear that he was quite good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted August 31, 2010 I'm sure there's a reason why Mats Naslund and Hakan Loob never won the Hart Trophy or the Art Ross. That reason played in Edmonton in the 80's, and I hear that he was quite good. What does Grant Fuhr have to do with this? 2 GMRwings1983 and Slave reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted August 31, 2010 What does Grant Fuhr have to do with this? First time I've ever seen you make a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted September 5, 2010 On Red Wings TV they have a video of Nick firmly stating that he believes Z will have a really good year or something to that effect. It's great to hear for sure. Can't wait to see him actually prove it on the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted September 5, 2010 First time I've ever seen you make a joke. No way, he talks about Hudler all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted September 5, 2010 (edited) No way, he talks about Hudler all the time. EDIT: Woops, hang on... Here we go. Edited September 5, 2010 by titanium2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted September 5, 2010 Ken Daniels is the s*** 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted September 6, 2010 Ken Daniels is the s*** He's Swedish? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted September 6, 2010 (edited) He's Swedish? Nah from the filppula highlight he's a great announcer for the red wings imo. Edited September 6, 2010 by mindfly 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites