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Dish Network and FS Detroit negotiating

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so this entire week my guide has been showing the game on one of the Center Ice channels in HD.

this morning I check and it shows "Off Air" for the entire day. I call Customer Service and the girl tells me "sir if you scroll over to when the game is, it'll have the game listed. Channels go off air in the middle of the night"

Seriously? She thought I was looking up the game at 3am and wondering why I couldn't see it. :ranting:

And still right now it's showing Off Air for the HD broadcast and showing the game in SD as of right now. Did FSDetroit decide not to show the game or is this just the beginning of FS and Dish ****ing with me?

I also have the game on standard def, and "off air" for the high def channels.

In several days from now I'll be watching games via DirecTV.

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People in Michigan with dish will not get the game tonight even if we have center ice. Period.

Am I not right?

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I was trying to find "Game Notes" and it looks like they've discontinued it. However, I did find this at the Red Wings site at nhl dot calm; I don't know if it can help in answering any questions.

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People in Michigan with dish will not get the game tonight even if we have center ice. Period.

Am I not right?

Honestly. I have no friggin idea. Been all over trying to get an answer since the original CI carriage is b/t NHL and inDemand with Dish just acting as the rebroadcaster. No one wants to answer this (Dish notwithstanding - they'll give you a yes and a no depending on which Punjab native speaking person answers the call). I've tried NHL, NHLLive, LeBrun (thx for nuttin mate), every friggin Dish forum that exists, and I even tweeted the Pope (well, I was going to.....).

Bottom line is that no one is saying if the dispute affects the CI carriage. The interesting thing is tho that Dish has all the non-Fox RSNs in the open AND their 'Find Game' page shows Prime (CH 411 I think) in the open w/o the game being marked as a Blackout. So if its not on CI, try PRIME I guess. I'm heading out to the FOX GRILL (ironic eh?) if its not on CI (I'm out of DET market BTW).

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IIRC - all 3 teams based in California air most of their games via FOX which more or less means they too will have this issue that we Red Wing fans have.

Once again I'm surprised there's really no attention to this outside of us DISH Network subscribers...IMHO this has the potential to be alot worse than the DirecTV/VS issue of last season.

I don't have Dish so I haven't paid much attention to the amount of disdain over this, but it would not shock me if it is much bigger of a deal than you might think.

It may not be the most popular sport in here for most people, but it is also going to strike out in the immediate future a lot of college football games and a lot of NBA games for local markets, and from an overall geographic perspective in this country, football and basketball are more popular than hockey.

I remember reading an article about Georgia's college football game at Colorado last weekend being blacked out. It would also effect a lot of Big 12 schools who use Fox for broadcasts (Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, etc.), Pac-10 schools I think as well (USC, UCLA, Arizona, etc.) and a large handful of other schools/universities.

The same will go for NBA teams and their diehard fans (Dallas Mavericks and Houston Rockets/Fox Sports Southwest, Oklahoma City Thunder/FS Oklahoma, LA Lakers and their FS partner, Detroit Pistons/FS Detroit, and a good bit more I believe).

DirecTV may have more subscribers than Dish, but I honestly think across the board this could affect a lot more people because it is going to involved multiple sports (football, basketball, hockey).

The Versus deal, as annoying as it was also, affected a limited scope in hockey games, as well as some college football games (Mountain West Conference, Pac-10, Big 12). And the Pac 10 and Big 12 broadcasts were often the 2nd/3rd/4th choices of popular games in the conferences I believe.

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I live in the Grand Rapids area, had FSD until this. Yesterday I get this in the mail. Granted it says "games subject to local blackout". But why send it to me then if I use to get FSD and can't watch the Wings due to blackout?

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I got that too and had a few choice words for them, even though they didn't hear it. I need to call them and complain, because online I tried and all I got were 3 free PPV movies, like I care about that.

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Here's the answer, the CenterIce free preview of the Blackhawks game is blacked out as is the NHLN feed. You won't be able to see the Wings on CenterIce.

Looks like I will be cancelling my Dish and finding another service.

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Not that it helps all of you in-market, but Dish has the FSN feeds on CI. The kicker is that the CI feed from inDemand only transmits SD feeds and the providers have the option of using their own HD feed of the specific RSN. Well, since Dish currently has NO HD feeds from any FSN, they're stuck using the SD feed. Which makes my new 60" plasma go flaccid.

I'll give them 5 more days since NHLN and VS have the next games in HD, then I'm off to Directv.

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DISH blows. Can't wait til my contract expires. They did give me $20 credit per month for 3 months, then $10 credit for then next 9 months. If FOX comes back soon, I'm golden. If not, I may pay the extra $$ to cancel.

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I heard direct is paying cancellation fees for dish customers.

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the kicker here is that if you're an nhl center ice subscriber that pays the full amount up front (like me), you can't cancel or transfer the NHL CI service, even though we're not even past the free preview stage of the season yet. you're stuck with an additional 170 bucks out the window on top of the dish cancellation fee.

what i did is threaten to cancel dish if they didn't refund my nhl center ice charge in full. they did...but i'll cancel dish next week anyway. feels good man.

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I heard direct is paying cancellation fees for dish customers.

Is this true? I'll switch right now if so

Dish sucks!

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Of course when I told Dish customer service I was probably going over to Direct TV they said that in the next couple months FSD will be negotiating with them too, saying I could be in the same boat all over again. Unfortunately I don't know of a way of verifying that.

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Folks, I cannot watch the Wings because of this dispute. This is killing! Any thoughts from someone in same situation! It also appears that Fox pulled plug on Cablevision in NYC/Philly area. This will affect the MLB playoff over there!

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I'm not in Detroit so I can watch the games on Center Ice, but I am starting to wonder if all this BS with Fox and Dish is why almost none of the center ice feeds are actually in HD this year. I remember having a ton of HD feeds in the past and so far this year the only HD games I've seen have been on NHLN or VS.

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I'm not in Detroit so I can watch the games on Center Ice, but I am starting to wonder if all this BS with Fox and Dish is why almost none of the center ice feeds are actually in HD this year. I remember having a ton of HD feeds in the past and so far this year the only HD games I've seen have been on NHLN or VS.

Yes it is and its getting suckier (will the judges take that?). Most of the HD feeds for hockey come from the FSN RSNs which FOX is no longer transmitting to Dish. That is why we only get the CSN and a couple FSN feeds that are not part of the current dispute in HD on CI.

I've given them 2 weeks since most of the Wingz games were available in HD on VS or NHLN. I'm calling DirecTV tomorrow in time for the CGY game next week (thx Kenny for getting 5 days off in between!).

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Yes it is and its getting suckier (will the judges take that?). Most of the HD feeds for hockey come from the FSN RSNs which FOX is no longer transmitting to Dish. That is why we only get the CSN and a couple FSN feeds that are not part of the current dispute in HD on CI.

I've given them 2 weeks since most of the Wingz games were available in HD on VS or NHLN. I'm calling DirecTV tomorrow in time for the CGY game next week (thx Kenny for getting 5 days off in between!).

That's really pissing me off. I wonder if they will comp my bill for the lack of HD feeds.

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That's really pissing me off. I wonder if they will comp my bill for the lack of HD feeds.

Couldn't care less for the $7 credit - I want the games in HD and I want them now (well, dont need tonights as I'll be at the game)!

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Yep. I too am about done with dish network. i want what I've paid for.

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This sucks for you guys with Dish. It was bad enough for me with DirecTv and no versus for most of last season.

Hope it's all resolved for you ASAP!!!

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How long did the dispute between Direct TV and Versus go on for?

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How long did the dispute between Direct TV and Versus go on for?

Early September 09 thru second week of March 2010.

Way too long!

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Can we go for a class action lawsuit against fox or dish, or they are too protected and powerful! Any lawyers on forum?

Edited by Wingooni_19

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The game was on last night in standard def (Yotes feed), and it was horrible...DirecTV can't get here fast enough.

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