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#1 miller76

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 03:03 AM

Attention Red Wings fans: FOX negotiating with Dish Network

by George Malik on 09/30/10 at 05:10 PM ET
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Per Fox Sports Detroit, of significant note to Red Wings fans who subscribe to Dish Network:

FOX is currently negotiating with DISH Network regarding the terms by which they carry its cable networks FX, National Geographic Channel and the 19 regional sports networks, including FOX Sports Detroit. The deadline for this negotiation is 3:00 AM Eastern tonight/tomorrow morning. If DISH Network fails to reach fair agreements with FOX, their subscribers may lose access to programming on the affected networks as of Friday, Oct. 1. Negotiations are ongoing and hope this issue can be resolved.

Only DISH Network subscribers could lose FX, National Geographic Channel and FOX Sports Detroit programming. All other systems will continue to receive FOX Sports Detroit and the other networks mentioned.

DISH customers can get more information and leave a comment at the following website: www.GetWhatIPaidFor.com. Or, by calling 1-877-99-IPAID (1-877-994-7243)

Affected games initially would be:

- Tigers: Friday thru Sunday at Baltimore

- Red Wings: Friday vs. [Toronto] on FS Plus (preseason); Sunday vs. Pittsburgh (preseason); Oct. 8 vs. Anaheim (regular season opener); Oct. 9 at Chicago .


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Posted 01 October 2010 - 08:08 AM

They better come to an agreement because I can't be switching providers right now and not having FSD is not acceptable! I can't believe I didn't even know about this, thanks.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 09:18 AM

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ENGLEWOOD, Colo. - NASDAQ: DISH) - Oct. 1, 2010 - DISH Network L.L.C. reports today that FOX Networks is blocking DISH Network's access to 19 FOX Regional Sports Networks and other programming. FOX is demanding a new contract with an unprecedented rate increase of more than 50 percent. FOX's removal of the channels follows the programmer's national TV, print and web advertising campaign designed to intimidate DISH Network and its customers into paying the rate increase. FOX has flatly refused DISH Network's request to allow customers to continue to watch these FOX channels during the negotiations.

These negotiations with FOX do not affect local FOX TV stations, FOX News or FOX Business News.

"DISH Network is not going to allow FOX or any programmer to bully our customers into paying such an unconscionable price increase," said Dave Shull, senior vice president of Programming for DISH Network. "FOX has a long history of trying to shake down pay TV providers, including Cablevision, Time Warner, and Bright House."

Shull continued, "Our customers should not be held hostage in order to finance FOX's irresponsible acquisition of sports rights. Consumers are already burdened enough in this challenging economy."

DISH Network will continue to negotiate in good faith for a fair deal with FOX to help restore the sports programming and prevent outrageous rate increases in this challenging economic environment. In the meantime, during the FOX lockout, DISH Network will make the following channels available to all affected customers at no additional charge: HD Net Movies, HD Theater, NBA TV, New England Sports Network, NFL Network, NHL Network, Altitude Sports, Big Ten Network, Comcast SportsNet California, Comcast SportsNet Chicago, Comcast SportsNet Bay Area, Comcast Sports Network Mid-Atlantic, Comcast Sports New England, ESPN Classic, FOX Sports Northwest, FOX Sports Pittsburgh, FOX Sports Rocky Mountain, Mid-Atlantic Sports Network, Mid-Atlantic Sports Network2, SportsNet New York, and SportsTime Ohio.


It doesn't look like these channels are going to be much help for us. I think I'd rather have the issue with Versus, at least that was only a few games.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 10:11 AM

So will this affect Center Ice if you are a Dish customer and purchased it?

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 11:08 AM

So will this affect Center Ice if you are a Dish customer and purchased it?

I'm assuming (and hoping) it won't since Center Ice is a separate service DISH Network offers to it's subscribers.

If it does - then I certainly hope there'll be an alternate feed (preferably in HD) that us Red Wing fans can watch.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 11:13 AM

I'm assuming (and hoping) it won't since Center Ice is a separate service DISH Network offers to it's subscribers.

If it does - then I certainly hope there'll be an alternate feed (preferably in HD) that us Red Wing fans can watch.


Yeah, that's my hopes as well. I didn't know if they would not allow any Fox feed as a bargaining tool or what but here is hoping it doesn't affect Center Ice.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 11:33 AM

Yeah, that's my hopes as well. I didn't know if they would not allow any Fox feed as a bargaining tool or what but here is hoping it doesn't affect Center Ice.

Just got off the phone with DISH Network.

The service rep there said that the NHL Center Ice package will not have any issues, and she also had checked with her "supervisor" (was put on hold) to confirm that those of us with Center Ice should still be able to view games if they are aired on FSN Detroit.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 11:47 AM

Just got off the phone with DISH Network.

The service rep there said that the NHL Center Ice package will not have any issues, and she also had checked with her "supervisor" (was put on hold) to confirm that those of us with Center Ice should still be able to view games if they are aired on FSN Detroit.


Awesome! Thanks for checking on that.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 11:52 AM

Awesome! Thanks for checking on that.

No problem.

I also sent an email to DISH concerning the same issue; always better to have a 2nd confirmation from another source, and something in writing just in case they're BS'ing me, and I want to discontinue service/refund from them.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 02:59 PM

Does anyone know if this will effect tonights game? I would rather watch the Fox HD feed then NHL Network as I need to here Ken and Mick and am not sure which feed NHLNet is using.

Just checked and it isnt listed anymore until the replay at 1am (which I am guessing is now blocked out anyways). So it looks like its NHLNet

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 03:11 PM

Last year I signed a 2-year contract. Now I want to cancel it. They better not charge a disconnection fee. I called Dishnetwork and they trying to tell me that if they agree to Fox's terms, my bill will double. Lol! So my bill will be $195 per month because of Fox? GTFO dishnetwork!

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 03:18 PM

I read this at first then took a double take to check that it said Dish Network...phew.

If this happened with DirecTV, I'd probably have to smack a hoe. My cable is already gimped enough at my new apartment. No FSD would probably cause me to lose my mind.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 03:27 PM

Does anyone know if this will effect tonights game? I would rather watch the Fox HD feed then NHL Network as I need to here Ken and Mick and am not sure which feed NHLNet is using.

Just checked and it isnt listed anymore until the replay at 1am (which I am guessing is now blocked out anyways). So it looks like its NHLNet

Do you still have programming on FSD right now? If you do then we should be ok until they cut the signal.

Last year I signed a 2-year contract. Now I want to cancel it. They better not charge a disconnection fee. I called Dishnetwork and they trying to tell me that if they agree to Fox's terms, my bill will double. Lol! So my bill will be $195 per month because of Fox? GTFO dishnetwork!

Good luck with them if you do decide to try to cancel. They are very inflexible with something and I doubt they'll waive the fee if you actually cancel them. I spent 6 months trying to clear something up with weekly calls to them when we canceled them about 4 years ago. Their customer service is lacking.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 03:42 PM

My chat session with dishnetwork:

Michael N.: Thank you how can I help you today sir?

me: I subscribed to dishnetwork for Fox and FX. Apparently I am going to be charged a disconnection fee. Why am I being punished because Dish is incapable of providing the services I was told to receive and pay for?

Michael N.: Our intent is not to punish you but if you turn off your service before the end of your agreement then cancellation fees would apply.

me: Then give me my channels that I was told to receive. You can't have both

me: This is a scam, really. Hype up to make a 2-year contract, then take the important stuff away and say "too bad, sucks to be you!"
(MangTH) Michael N.: The agreement that holds you to the cancellation fee does state that Programming and packages are subject to change. How understanding would you be if any provider increased the price of there service by 50%? Would you simply acknowledge the increase and pay the bill, or would you do what you can to get your charges under control?

me: Lol @ 50%. What a load of bullsh#t

me: So let me get this straight. I am paying for services that I don't get. I get penalized a disconnection fee so I can find a service provided who can offer the channels, and my bill remains the same price as if I am receiving the channels in question. Win-win for DishNetWork. Lose-Lose for the consumer. My butt hurts, I need lube!



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Posted 01 October 2010 - 04:25 PM

Update:

If you continue arguing with DishNetWork on the matter, they'll give you $5.00 off your bill for 12 months. That's $60 bucks savings!

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 11:27 AM

This is unbelievable. They better get this s*** straightened out before the regular season starts or I'm done with them. They can take the cancellation fee's and shove em' up their ass. My credit sucks as it is, what the hell do I care if I don't pay?

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 09:20 PM

I'm glad that I am free to leave them when I want. I'd rather not get locked into someone new but it would save me some money too because they seem to give you a break for the first 6 months - year. Going to start doing some research just in case I do need to get rid of them.

I was considering Center Ice if this continues, but I really can't afford that. Maybe enough complaining can get you it free, of course you know they'll never do that, but give you credits monthly that add up.

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 02:40 PM

just saw the commercial on my comcast FSD... Seems like they are not resolving this anytime soon.

First VS... now FSD, seems like DT is a winner!

Comcrap is better than DT... just took a few years to fully appreciate it. Glad the lakehouse contract with DT is now up!!



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Posted 03 October 2010 - 04:04 PM

Why anyone would go with Dish Network over DirecTV is amazing to me.

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 04:08 PM

Same thing happened with DirectTv last year over Vs. I'm not angry with DISH. I'm pissed with FoxSports for holding the channels hostage while they demand upwards of a 50% price increase. I'm sorry, but that's basically blackmail. The MSG network is demanding that DISH carry a regional music video channel as part of their nationwide programming. No thank you. MTV sucks bad enough.





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