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The "return" isn't really the "who" we get in exchange for Piddler, but rather the CAP SPACE! We'll free up close to 3mil plus a roster space that we can use to sign a 5-6mil/yr guy at or before the trade deadline. How good would a 30 goal scorer who brings some nastiness look on the third line with Cleary and Modano for the playoffs? Hudler's cap space and roster spot could make that happen.

I could care less if we get a pop tart and glass of milk for the little traitor... he can run back to the KHL with his tail between his legs and play over there which is where he went last year anyways.

It's addition by subtraction in this case and I WANT a big time scorer on the third line to help balance out the top three lines come playoff time.

Then if he is still playing like this trade him at the deadline.

No use freeing up cap space we can't even utilize yet.

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Then if he is still playing like this trade him at the deadline.

No use freeing up cap space we can't even utilize yet.

There's a lot of use. We could bank that cap space and use it on a player/players we couldn't afford if we wait. I believe it would be around $1.4M in extra cap space trading him now as opposed to at the deadline.

That said, I still wouldn't do it. We can only stay injury-free for so long and we don't really have much to trade for anyone decent anyway.

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There's a lot of use. We could bank that cap space and use it on a player/players we couldn't afford if we wait. I believe it would be around $1.4M in extra cap space trading him now as opposed to at the deadline.

I have no idea where you get that idea from. If we trade him for someone his cap goes off the books whether it is today or at the deadline.

That said, I still wouldn't do it. We can only stay injury-free for so long and we don't really have much to trade for anyone decent anyway.

Exactly. No viable reason to trade Hudler at this point.

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Miller deserves to play by his PK ability alone, hudler does nothing for this team and has not improved at all in 15-16 games that he played, you just gotta ice the best team every night especially on the road.

Atlanta was 1/1 on the PP last night. Hudler could have at least performed that well. Sarcasm aside, Hudler should be able to set up more offense than Miller on any given night, which is what we lacked in last nights blowout.

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Atlanta was 1/1 on the PP last night. Hudler could have at least performed that well. Sarcasm aside, Hudler should be able to set up more offense than Miller on any given night, which is what we lacked in last nights blowout.

No they lacked sharpness(read:motivation), defensive awareness, goaltending, aggresiveness.

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I have no idea where you get that idea from. If we trade him for someone his cap goes off the books whether it is today or at the deadline.

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The cap is calculated on a day by day basis. There's 96 days until the trade deadline. Hudler's daily hit is $15,457. That's $1,483,872 in cap space we could bank for later use. Assuming no other roster changes, that money plus the $618,280 for the last 40 days after the deadline would be worth the equivalent of $9.775M in yearly salary. More than three times the space we would have if we waited.

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The cap is calculated on a day by day basis. There's 96 days until the trade deadline. Hudler's daily hit is $15,457. That's $1,483,872 in cap space we could bank for later use. Assuming no other roster changes, that money plus the $618,280 for the last 40 days after the deadline would be worth the equivalent of $9.775M in yearly salary. More than three times the space we would have if we waited.

I do not believe that is right at all.

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I do not believe that is right at all.

It's closer to what most people think actually. It is calculated on a day by day basis. But cutting 3 mil in salary won't save us that much money. It'll save us 3 mil at the deadline. But at the deadline that 3mil is more like ((days of games left/total days of game from start to finish of season)+1*Hudlers cap hit). Or something close to that. Which is why if you have 3 mil of cap space, you can sign a guy with a cap hit of like 7 mil at the trade deadline.

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I do not believe that is right at all.

pretty sure he is right on

though really whats the point of banking salary? first, without hudler, the wings have no legit assets to trade for a deadline guy. no way should they move young guys for a rental. second, the whole reason hudler is expendable is that the team has 12 good forwards right now. with draper coming back, the bottom 6 will have less room. so any decent deadline player would have to be a defenseman, and that makes the market that much smaller and competitive. and heck, at this point, i am pretty ok with our 3rd pairing as well.

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