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Doughty took a step back last season. It remains to be seen if he'll continue to improve. Further, a significant concussion is nothing to be sneezed at; it can forebode bad things, as sustaining one concussion significantly increases the chances that another will occur.

Too, Holland has stated that he'll not do this sort of thing. It tends to strain relations and give a GM a bad reputation.

This is all moot, of course, because L.A. will match any offer that isn't exorbitant; and having Doughty on the team for ~$9m per season (probably what it would cost) is not worth it.

There's no doubt that 1 concussion could lead to another - and another, but that could be said about any number of players who've gotten their bells rung in the past few years (Brad Richards comes to mind)...Just hope that it won't happen again.

I'm not expecting Holland to make the Doughty camp an offer (now if Doughty had played for the Hurricanes - that might be a different story) as it can create animosity throughout the league.

But seriously though - 4 first round picks to me seem pretty resonable for Doughty when ya consider that we really have nothing special in GR.

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There's no doubt that 1 concussion could lead to another - and another, but that could be said about any number of players who've gotten their bells rung in the past few years (Brad Richards comes to mind)...Just hope that it won't happen again.

I'm not expecting Holland to make the Doughty camp an offer (now if Doughty had played for the Hurricanes - that might be a different story) as it can create animosity throughout the league.

But seriously though - 4 first round picks to me seem pretty resonable for Doughty when ya consider that we really have nothing special in GR.

I edited my post when I realized another point: L.A. will simply take Doughty to arbitration if he turns down this offer, so they'll be immune to offer sheets for him anyway.

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Doughty is one of the few players that I would extend an offer sheet to

Well, no team in the NHL is going to get the opportunity to do so.

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Why? I don't get it.

You cannot send a player an offer sheet if his team has elected salary arbitration.

EDIT: Which Crymson, and most other would agree - myself included, believes will happen if he declines this offer.

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Why? I don't get it.

Yeah, I'm with you on this. While I highly doubt Holland will send an offer sheet to Doughty, ANY team has the right to do so, under the current CBA. Unless LA enacts the arbitration process for Doughty, he's not immune to offer sheets.

I think Crymson just likes to think that he can ultimately predict anything sometimes. Not trying to start anything Crymson, just the impression I get.

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You cannot send a player an offer sheet if his team has elected salary arbitration.

EDIT: Which Crymson, and most other would agree - myself included, believes will happen if he declines this offer.

I still don't get it.

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I still don't get it.

They're trying to say that if anyone offers Doughty an offer sheet, he'll decline it, and then LA will enact arbitration for him... I don't think it's that cut and dry, but that's the gist of it.

Again they are assuming that will happen, but everything is just speculation.

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They're trying to say that if anyone offers Doughty an offer sheet, he'll decline it, and then LA will enact arbitration for him... I don't think it's that cut and dry, but that's the gist of it.

Again they are assuming that will happen, but everything is just speculation.

Yeah, I'm with you on this. While I highly doubt Holland will send an offer sheet to Doughty, ANY team has the right to do so, under the current CBA. Unless LA enacts the arbitration process for Doughty, he's not immune to offer sheets.

I think Crymson just likes to think that he can ultimately predict anything sometimes. Not trying to start anything Crymson, just the impression I get.

L.A. taking Doughty to arbitration if he rejects this offer is about as likely as the sun rising tomorrow. It would be asinine beyond belief of Lombardi to not do so, especially given how few effective defenseman will be available on the free agent market this offseason. Doughty is still immune to offer sheets at this stage, regardless, because none can be presented to him until July 1st.

Thank you for your attempts at psychological analysis. I guess that me using a case of extreme probability to make a statement means that I feel I can predict anything. I should go out and buy a lotto ticket now.

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I don't believe Doughty is eligible for arbitration yet.

If that's the case, then I misunderstood the CBA.

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If that's the case, then I misunderstood the CBA.

Players signing before age of 20 need at least four years of NHL experience, which excludes any player coming off of his ELC.

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Again they are assuming that will happen, but everything is just speculation.

L.A. taking Doughty to arbitration if he rejects this offer is about as likely as the sun rising tomorrow. It would be asinine beyond belief of Lombardi to not do so, especially given how few effective defenseman will be available on the free agent market this offseason. Doughty is still immune to offer sheets at this stage, regardless, because none can be presented to him until July 1st.

Thank you for your attempts at psychological analysis. I guess that me using a case of extreme probability to make a statement means that I feel I can predict anything. I should go out and buy a lotto ticket now.

And being an ass won't get you far in life either... as soon as you win that lotto ticket, a highly "improbable" piano will fall from the sky and flatten you.

Again, you're assuming that Doughty won't accept an offer sheet... We are not in the players mind, so that kind of predicted probability is complete BS. Don't even try to defend it.

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Players signing before age of 20 need at least four years of NHL experience, which excludes any player coming off of his ELC.

But he is coming off of his ELC, isn't he? Or did I misunderstand you?

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But he is coming off of his ELC, isn't he? Or did I misunderstand you?

I explained poorly.

Players signing their ELC before the age of 20 need four years of NHL experience to be eligible for arbitration.

So that excludes any player signing before the age of 20 from being eligible for arbitration when they come off of their ELC.

So what it boils down to, Drew Doughty is not eligible for arbitration until next summer, but obviously he'll have a long-term contract before then.

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They're trying to say that if anyone offers Doughty an offer sheet, he'll decline it, and then LA will enact arbitration for him... I don't think it's that cut and dry, but that's the gist of it.

Again they are assuming that will happen, but everything is just speculation.

I know, I know. I was just teasing you guys. xD

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I explained poorly.

Players signing their ELC before the age of 20 need four years of NHL experience to be eligible for arbitration.

So that excludes any player signing before the age of 20 from being eligible for arbitration when they come off of their ELC.

So what it boils down to, Drew Doughty is not eligible for arbitration until next summer, but obviously he'll have a long-term contract before then.

If that's the case, then LA needs to lock him off before 7/1.

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If that's the case, then LA needs to lock him off before 7/1.

Not really, they'll match any offer sheet, so I don't see it being a major issue.

It would have to be a pretty outrageous offer for L.A. to let him go.

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Not really, they'll match any offer sheet, so I don't see it being a major issue.

It would have to be a pretty outrageous offer for L.A. to let him go.

Yeah but that's still more money they'll have to pay him. Potentially a lot. Especially with teams so far below the floor this year.

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I explained poorly.

Players signing their ELC before the age of 20 need four years of NHL experience to be eligible for arbitration.

So that excludes any player signing before the age of 20 from being eligible for arbitration when they come off of their ELC.

So what it boils down to, Drew Doughty is not eligible for arbitration until next summer, but obviously he'll have a long-term contract before then.

Oh. Well, thanks for the education.

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#TB sign M-A Bergeron to a 2 year deal worth $2M @renhockey

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not a big deal, all he does is thrown hipchecks and play the point on the second pp, the dude is worthless defensively

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#TB sign M-A Bergeron to a 2 year deal worth $2M @renhockey

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He was very good in their system and that is a great price tag... good signing for the Bolts, the only question now, is if he can stay healthy, but at that price tag, I guess it's not as big of a concern...

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The problem with him is that he is so defensively liable that you almost always see 7 defensemen in the line up when he's playing. He gets minimal ES ice time. Although he can definitely be effective on your second PP unit he definitely comes with some pretty glaring drawbacks.

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