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#41 Din758

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 09:57 PM

Yes I do, I like him because he is exactly what the Wings need and can be had for a bargain right now. Because of his production this year and the fact that he and Hitchcock don't get along he would be a bargain in a trade and against the cap for a 30 goal scoring power forward which is exactly what he is.
If he got as much ice-time as Ryan playing with Getzlaf and Perry, I have no doubt he would have scored as much.


You mean the Stewart that just got an extension in stl?
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:46 PM

You mean the Stewart that just got an extension in stl?


Yeah that's the Stewart I am proposing a trade for

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:32 PM

I really fail to see the point of the Red Wings making trades right now. Why give up valuable assets when they have the ability to address their needs through free agency very soon? They have the cap space to sign the top free agents available without giving up major pieces of the team now and in the future.

Trades would be a nice fallback option after July 1st maybe, but I don't see any reason for Holland to start making deals at the draft.
 
 
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 12:20 AM

Get it done, Kenny! Honestly, I would take him over Parise, but in reality, trade Anaheim a package that includes Filppula and get both Ryan & Parise...oh and Suter....


You mean Franzen, right?
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 05:09 AM

You mean Franzen, right?

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 06:22 AM

yea id take ryan over parise. hes hungry

I would only want to get rid of franzen though. Maybe kindl.

Edited by brett, 20 June 2012 - 06:23 AM.


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Posted 20 June 2012 - 07:00 AM

I've heard the ducks want 2 or 3 building blOck pieces that increase depth but not payroll...

Tatar, Kindl, someone else, pick or two..? Idk

Edit: I don't expect too big of moves this off season tho. Suter's probably going to be about it and then we filter in some younger guys IMO. Idk maybe (hopefully) I'm wrong tho

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 07:33 AM

I've heard the ducks want 2 or 3 building blOck pieces that increase depth but not payroll...

Tatar, Kindl, someone else, pick or two..? Idk

Edit: I don't expect too big of moves this off season tho. Suter's probably going to be about it and then we filter in some younger guys IMO. Idk maybe (hopefully) I'm wrong tho

Oh well, if not Ryan then maybe we could trade Francine for some other player that gives a s***.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 07:48 AM

I've heard the ducks want 2 or 3 building blOck pieces that increase depth but not payroll...

Tatar, Kindl, someone else, pick or two..? Idk

Edit: I don't expect too big of moves this off season tho. Suter's probably going to be about it and then we filter in some younger guys IMO. Idk maybe (hopefully) I'm wrong tho

Doubt the Ducks would consider Kindl a building block. Have a feeling they might consider Smith to be one though. Don't see Kenny kicking the tires on this one at all.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 07:56 AM

Doubt the Ducks would consider Kindl a building block. Have a feeling they might consider Smith to be one though. Don't see Kenny kicking the tires on this one at all.


Yea you're probly right. Very unlikely we trade for anyone really..

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 09:22 AM

I really fail to see the point of the Red Wings making trades right now. Why give up valuable assets when they have the ability to address their needs through free agency very soon? They have the cap space to sign the top free agents available without giving up major pieces of the team now and in the future.

Trades would be a nice fallback option after July 1st maybe, but I don't see any reason for Holland to start making deals at the draft.


Agreed. Trading would be a desperation move. The Wings have all the pieces to sign any player they want after July 1st, no sense wasting picks and players.
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 09:47 AM

You mean Franzen, right?

Oh, I would love to ditch..err...I mean trade Franzen, but I don't think Anaheim would take him and that long ass contract. I mention Filppula because Selanne is coming back and has said how much he likes playing with Flip (International play) and that he has great chemistry with him...so naturally if we were going to try to pry Ryan out of there, they would definitely want Filppula to start with...

I agree with you guys about sign what you can first, then make trades if you need to, but unfortunately this is the time (the draft) when the trades are made. Trades for rights and players. If Holland has any interest in Bobby Ryan, he will need to trade for him on draft day...and if Anaheim has any interest in Filppula then they have already put it in Holland's ear... We already have the next Filppula in Pulkkinen perhaps better and as good as Filppula has become, this team is better with Ryan. Of course there is no way of knowing what it would take to get him here, I am just guessing....

to ANA: V. Filppula/ L. Ferraro / 4th Round

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 11:27 AM

Oh, I would love to ditch..err...I mean trade Franzen, but I don't think Anaheim would take him and that long ass contract. I mention Filppula because Selanne is coming back and has said how much he likes playing with Flip (International play) and that he has great chemistry with him...so naturally if we were going to try to pry Ryan out of there, they would definitely want Filppula to start with...

I agree with you guys about sign what you can first, then make trades if you need to, but unfortunately this is the time (the draft) when the trades are made. Trades for rights and players. If Holland has any interest in Bobby Ryan, he will need to trade for him on draft day...and if Anaheim has any interest in Filppula then they have already put it in Holland's ear... We already have the next Filppula in Pulkkinen perhaps better and as good as Filppula has become, this team is better with Ryan. Of course there is no way of knowing what it would take to get him here, I am just guessing....

to ANA: V. Filppula/ L. Ferraro / 4th Round

to DET: B. Ryan / J. Schultz (rights)


Say what? The only similarity is nationality. Pulkkinen is a slow, defensively questionable, shoot-first sniper. Filpulla is a fast, elite defensive forward, who needs to be emotionally black mailed into shooting the puck.

Also, IMO Detroit would need to offer Filpulla, one of Nyquist/Smith/Jarnkrok, and a 2nd. And that won't happen.
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 09:22 PM

I might have missed it, but why are the Ducks shopping Ryan? Bad attitude? Makes too much money?

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 12:30 AM

Agreed. Trading would be a desperation move. The Wings have all the pieces to sign any player they want after July 1st, no sense wasting picks and players.


I think the Wings would want a big tough sniping forward mpre than anything and there isn't one available as a UFA. I think a big tough righ-shooting top pair defenseman would be preferable to anything that might be available. After Suter I don't think there is a true top pair defenseman and only one with the potential to be

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 04:34 AM

How about B. Ryan for Rick Nash? Hmmmmm.......

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 06:40 AM

Bobby Ryan pissed off being the scapegoat

“I've gotten wind of everything,” Ryan said by phone between his fourth and fifth rounds.

I take things personally,” Ryan said. “Anaheim to me has been a team over the past year that really has shown me nothing to prove that they want me here, unfortunately. Obviously, it's not the ideal situation. When you get drafted, you want to win championships with that team and every time they look to add a piece to the puzzle, I'm the piece going the other way.


Keep up the good work Murray I am sure, Getzlaf and Perry will want to stay in an organization handling players like that. Kudos to Ryan for speaking out I would be pissed too if I were him and tell Meehan "Either they put this s*** to rest and I'll stay or make them trade me the hell out of here"

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:08 AM

http://tracking.si.c... (SI.com - NHL)

looks like Ryan wants Philly. Man these Eastern Conference teams are getting stacked!

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:28 PM

I might have missed it, but why are the Ducks shopping Ryan? Bad attitude? Makes too much money?

I don't know if anyone really knows for sure.

But they've dangled him multiple times now, so something is going on. The article mentioned he clashed with Carlyle. But Boudreau he did very well playing for, so I'm guessing the problems must be higher up the food chain.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:28 PM

I might have missed it, but why are the Ducks shopping Ryan? Bad attitude? Makes too much money?


I think they are just looking to rebuild a little and get some building blocks/prospects and he's probably worth the most in trade/they'd rather get rid of him over perry.. Just my thoughts but yea it seems like mostly rebuilding and Ryan has high trade value.

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