Motown4013 350 Report post Posted April 26, 2013 Interesting things to decide on here. If you are the coach, coaching the last game in Dallas, would you consider any of these "X FACTORS" We have won the last 3 in a row with the current line-up. Last game of the year and some of our guys are medically cleared to return. Lets face it, Smith has made some costly errors in the last 3 games...Back to back penalties against PHX and one in Vancouver which led to a goal. He is 3rd on the team in giveaways (behind Pavel and Big E...who have both played more games and have more takeaways) He is also a minus player on the road. We also have Cleary who has played better in the last few games but also took 2 penalties last night. He is slow and looked gassed in the 3rd last night in Nashville. Clears sits fouth on the team in PIM and is 2nd last for plus/minus on the active roster at -6. With Bert apparently healthy and White as a plus 7 on the road, do you make a roster change? If you do, who do you insert? Bertuzzi has soft hands, an offensive upside, size and would be fresh. Fresh also means rusty....and not in game shape. Smith at times looks lost and overall has make some really poor decisions with the puck. Would Cola or White provide some stability on the blueline? Sammy is also healthy...but there hasnt beeen much talk about him. Is the "Shin Guard assasin" better than someone one occupying a spot on the team? If you get to coach the last game of the season, who do you want in the line up with a playoff berth on the line? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) Interesting things to decide on here. If you are the coach, coaching the last game in Dallas, would you consider any of these "X FACTORS" We have won the last 3 in a row with the current line-up. Last game of the year and some of our guys are medically cleared to return. Lets face it, Smith has made some costly errors in the last 3 games...Back to back penalties against PHX and one in Vancouver which led to a goal. He is 3rd on the team in giveaways (behind Pavel and Big E...who have both played more games and have more takeaways) He is also a minus player on the road. We also have Cleary who has played better in the last few games but also took 2 penalties last night. He is slow and looked gassed in the 3rd last night in Nashville. Clears sits fouth on the team in PIM and is 2nd last for plus/minus on the active roster at -6. With Bert apparently healthy and White as a plus 7 on the road, do you make a roster change? If you do, who do you insert? Bertuzzi has soft hands, an offensive upside, size and would be fresh. Fresh also means rusty....and not in game shape. Smith at times looks lost and overall has make some really poor decisions with the puck. Would Cola or White provide some stability on the blueline? Sammy is also healthy...but there hasnt beeen much talk about him. Is the "Shin Guard assasin" better than someone one occupying a spot on the team? If you get to coach the last game of the season, who do you want in the line up with a playoff berth on the line? I would consider Bert over Cleary if I could get a sense in practice that his conditioning wouldn't be an issue & that he could take heavy contact. If not, I wouldn't risk putting him out there & lose him to a cross check in the back within the first couple of minutes of the game. As far as Sammy, that's a straight no there. And as far as White or Cola over Smith, I really don't see either one of them as much of an improvement over Smith given that they would be coming into the last game of the regular season fairly cold/rusty themselves. Easier to hide a rusty forward among 11 others versus hiding a rusty d-man by overplaying the other 5. ("Rusty foward"... Is that a sex thing?) Edited April 26, 2013 by ogreslayer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motown4013 350 Report post Posted April 26, 2013 I would consider Bert over Cleary if I could get a sense in practice that his conditioning wouldn't be an issue & that he could take heavy contact. If not, I wouldn't risk putting him out there & lose him to a cross check in the back within the first couple of minutes of the game. As far as Sammy, that's a straight no there. And as far as White or Cola over Smith, I really don't see either one of them as much of an improvement over Smith given that they would be coming into the last game of the regular season fairly cold/rusty themselves. Easier to hide a rusty forward among 11 others versus hiding a rusty d-man by overplaying the other 5. ("Rusty foward"... Is that a sex thing?) That was definately not the intention......and If it is, someone needs KY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted April 26, 2013 Ain't broke, don't Bert............... Dance with the Cleary that brought ya........... Live by the Smith, die by the Smith........................... yada yada 1 esteef reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted April 26, 2013 Let it ride! esteef 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted April 26, 2013 Delete Cleary, insert Tuzzi. Keep the rest the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted April 26, 2013 Roll with the same guys. The team has played really well the past three games. Not sure an all or nothing game is the ideal spot to bring back rusty veteran players coming off injuries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted April 26, 2013 As much as we would like it, If Bert or Sammy play it won't be for Cleary. I would say Eaves is the odd man out, but he has had a few very good games. Trying to get into Babs' head, I'd say if anyone sat, it would be Toots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motown4013 350 Report post Posted April 27, 2013 As much as we would like it, If Bert or Sammy play it won't be for Cleary. I would say Eaves is the odd man out, but he has had a few very good games. Trying to get into Babs' head, I'd say if anyone sat, it would be Toots.I am afraid you are right in terms of who would be the healthy scratch if Bert was inserted into the line up. In my opinion, I think BOTH Eaves and Toots have had their best 2 games in the last 2 games. That 4th line has been exceptional for us as of late and I would hate to mess with the mojo they have going on. Sadly, the whole " best players get to play" seems to be conjecture...not reality. I would like to see Bert and I think we will see him in the playoffs. Had CBJ lost last night, I think they would have made a few line up changes. Given we have been playing the best hockey of the season, I doubt the lines will change tomorrow in Dallas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladdy16 2,154 Report post Posted April 27, 2013 No way I would put in Bert. He's been out way too long to put him in a critical game. He's older and can't get into game shape like he could when he was younger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted April 27, 2013 No way I would put in Bert. He's been out way too long to put him in a critical game. He's older and can't get into game shape like he could when he was younger. Didn't he score 2 goals in the game that he did come back this year? I don't remember if that was his first game or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sabaton617 28 Report post Posted April 27, 2013 If Wings do make the playoffs, I assume Bert at some point will play, so if he's ready to go and I'm coaching, he plays tomorrow. As far as who sits, I leave that up to one of my assistants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Playmaker Report post Posted April 27, 2013 It doesn't matter how old someone is, how long they've practiced or how healthy the are. You can't get into "game shape" unless you play in games. Can't be simulated in practice. Can't stand Cleary, but kind of hard to mess with success. I found it interesting the other day when Babcock was asked what contributed to the hot streak he said "young players". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted April 27, 2013 I found it interesting the other day when Babcock was asked what contributed to the hot streak he said "young players". He's right though. DelKaiser, Nyquist and moving Franzen to centre all combined together to transmogrify us into a proper team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted April 27, 2013 Never change a running system that said, I'd probably go with the current lineup no changes at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted April 28, 2013 Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo.... Cleary. What to do with him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted April 28, 2013 He'll play. Now way Babs will drop him now, he loves to talk about how his vets who may have struggled in the regular season come alive in the playoffs. Plus the guy is an absolute warrior in the postseason. Brunner and Nyquist on the other hand....I think they will be on very short leashes and Babs will get Bert in there if he detects any lack of "compete" in their game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BleedRed&White25 36 Report post Posted April 28, 2013 (edited) What do you think is going to happen with Tatar? I'd like to see him get some playing time, but at the same time, we've finally got some good chemistry on all 4 lines. Decisions decisions... Edit: because I <3 Smilies!!! Edited April 28, 2013 by BleedRed&White25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 28, 2013 What do you think is going to happen with Tatar? I'd like to see him get some playing time, but at the same time, we've finally got some good chemistry on all 4 lines. Decisions decisions... If you replace cleary with Tatar, that second line will be much better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motown4013 350 Report post Posted April 28, 2013 I tend to agree with Nev here. Although Brunner helped offensively down the stretch, he has looked a bit suspect on the back check and when protecting the puck. I think he may be the odd man out. No way he sits Gus.....if he does, it's a ridiculous decision. Gus has been great in both ends of the ice and is the juggernaut on that 3rd line. I think he probably stays with Cleary....but if I was guessing, I think Bert will be inserted at some point and #24 may be the odd man out. In the last 2 years, we have been injured early in the playoffs...this year, IF we were to lose someone, I don't think it would hurt us as much because of the guys waiting to play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan4795 552 Report post Posted April 28, 2013 I hope they let it ride at least until they lose a game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beachwing 426 Report post Posted April 28, 2013 (edited) Cleary has to stay in, his entire mo is built for playoffs.... I cant say the same about some of our young guys though. I saw some neevous nellies out there last night and for sure Babs will be happy to throw a Bert or Sammy in for a rook if beed be. Hell of a luxury to have. Edited April 28, 2013 by beachwing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted April 28, 2013 Getting this Wings edition into the playoffs without needing help from other teams, is just outstanding I don't think Babcock will win, because MacLean has done an unbelievable job with the Senators but it should be close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted April 29, 2013 He'll play. Now way Babs will drop him now, he loves to talk about how his vets who may have struggled in the regular season come alive in the playoffs. Plus the guy is an absolute warrior in the postseason. Brunner and Nyquist on the other hand....I think they will be on very short leashes and Babs will get Bert in there if he detects any lack of "compete" in their game. Brunner and Nyquist have been creating as many chances as Dats and Z. The difference is finish. The guy that should be on a short leash is Filppula, cause he's producing like a 4th liner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites