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Can't remember the last time we were this pathetic

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I give the Pens and Bolts credit. The former aren't exactly known for their defense, yet they're getting it done without almost their entire top four, and then some. And Stamkos basically is the Lightning; it's impressive that they're doing as well as they are without him. One could argue they're better now than we were when we were mostly healthy.

Stamkos may be hurt, but St. Louis isn't. His enormous contribution to that team is lost in Stamkos' greatness.

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I give the Pens and Bolts credit. The former aren't exactly known for their defense, yet they're getting it done without almost their entire top four, and then some. And Stamkos basically is the Lightning; it's impressive that they're doing as well as they are without him. One could argue they're better now than we were when we were mostly healthy.

Weren't we like 5-0 after Datsyuk went down? The Lightning aren't doing that good, they're surviving. The numbers before and after Stamkos got hurt are night and day. Maybe because they just beat us it may seem like they're not struggling.

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Weren't we like 5-0 after Datsyuk went down? The Lightning aren't doing that good, they're surviving. The numbers before and after Stamkos got hurt are night and day. Maybe because they just beat us it may seem like they're not struggling.

We did well after Datsyuk went down, but, on the whole, we've been a fairly bumbling team (shootout losses, blown leads, not winning games we should win, lack of any secondary scoring for a stretch, general lack of scoring, godawful play in our own zone). I'm not saying the Bolts haven't been struggling, and I'm not honestly saying that an injured Bolts team is better than a healthy Wings team. I just give the Bolts a lot of credit. Few thought they'd even be competitive, let alone doing what they're doing and now managing to stay afloat without Steven Stamkos and Victor Hedman.

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Pittsburgh's got the two best players in the world up front. As long as they're both healthy they can cope with most injuries. I wouldn't say they have as many quality players out of the lineup as we have either. But sure, it's impressive that they're not struggling at all with so many d-men out.

Tampa's not doing much better than us. They're 5-3-2 and we're 4-4-2. Once again, other than Stamkos and Hedman they're not missing as many valuable pieces as we are.

Boston? Eriksson and Iginla are good players but that's like us being without Franzen and Alfie, which we would easily survive. Other than that they're not terribly hit.

Columbus? I'm not really aware what injuries they have, but they're 13th in the conference so maybe in their case injuries offer a shakeup to improve their play? Anyway, again, they're not exactly dominating with their 5-4-1 record.

For s***zburgh, Malkin hasn't been playing much and has been dinged all year, yet they are probably the best team in the conference along with all of their d-men being hurt.

Tampa isn't doing better than the Wings, but when they were at full strength, they were playing better than the Wings did.

Boston has several role players out along with losing Horton to columbus and with Thornton being a moron, they're even shorter.

Columbu is missing its Vezina winner, Gaborik hasn't played in over a month, Horton hasn't played this season, Wisniewski hasn't played in a week and now Prout is out. Yet they've crept back into the playoff hunt.

Detroit isn't the only team with injuries. It's an excuse to complain about something everyone else has to deal with. The issue is Detroit's depth isn't very good or hasn't really played at the NHL level and is therefore inexperienced. That's entirely on the GM.

And here: http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/injuries

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As much as it sucks, injuries are part of the game just like fighting, scoring, goaltending. Other teams are dealing with injuries too, good teams are finding ways to overcome them or at least stay competetive. What's happening right now, is the result of having a team that is outside of their two remaining stars not very good and or even good enough. Pasha is coming back from a concussion, so for sure it will take him some time, to regain his form and who knows what is really wrong with Z's back.

The point is, this team can't feel sorry for themselves, they need to find ways to be competetive given the current situation, does that mean they should beat some top teams? No, but even with all the injuries beating teams like the Florida panthers, Tampa Bay Lighting and New york Islanders should be no brainers and to be expected.

Hate to break it to some, but even healthy this is not a team others teams are afraid of playing (hard), even the former castle Joe Louis Arena has turned into a point machine for the opponent! So yes, injuries are holding the Detroit Red Wings back a bit, but the point overall the depth isn't good enough to carry the load (and that includes a healthy roster too).

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I would give anything for a 43 Lidstrom right now. I hate that he will be a gordie howe in the minds of my children. We are so blessed to have even witnessed his greatness. Hopefully these kids carry the elite and classy legacy on.

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I think we had a stretch of like 5 losses earlier this season so it wasn't that long ago ... unless you mean why are we so bad this year.

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I think coaching has a lot to do with it. Yes we get injured a lot. But we aren't the only team that has to overcome injuries. I remember a few years ago Crosby barely played for a good year and a half yet Pittsburgh was up in the standings putting up points, top 3 best record in the NHL without a real goalie or any real stay at home defenseman. I know they're a good team, Malkin is a beast and they get offensive contributions from their defense as well but we have a lot of talent even with the injuries...of course that was before Nyquist, Franzen and Abby went down. Getting swept by Florida and Tampa(making Bishop and Thomas look like Brodeur in his prime), not scoring on a big 5 minute major or responding to Abby getting illegally rocked is showing me that these guys do not seem to have enough motivation. I feel like I rarely see Babcock show emotion and maybe that would've been necessary ever since game 7 of the 09 Cup. These guys have to respect the jerseys they wear because no one else around the league seems to respect them anymore. There is no one scary on this team coming up the ice with the capability of just sniping one in with a rocket shot like so many times has happened to us the past few years(Datsyuk, Zetts are playmakers, Franzen needs energetic linemates as motivation but we just truly lack a legit sniper). Fact is, I see a lot more jump from teams with a lot less talent. We will all be happy when everyone is back, no doubt. But this team seems to act like they've lost before the puck is even dropped at the start of the game.

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We have 2@ top four D men. That's it. That means EVERYBODY has to ignore their game to be COMPLETELY defensive in the choices they make. No passing, no grit, boring!

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I can, we were this bad most of last season too. If not for the last couple weeks we would have missed the playoffs, but we got in and did a great job.

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Doom! Gloom! The Red Wings will never be good again Muahhahahahahaha. Here's my big prediction: Remember when Pavel was the only guy out, and Nyquist finally got called up, and our lines were finally starting to gel and we beat Buffalo 3-1, and Boston 6-1, and the Islanders 5-0, and Ottawa 4-2? Well, once guys get healthy we'll see more of that.

Take a deep breath boys, we'll be fine. That's my bold prediction.

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