• Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

nyqvististhefuture

Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Rate this topic

1,870 posts in this topic

I'd guess Jarnkrok, Jurco and Nyquist would be the names for top prospects. For proven roster players your guess is as good as mine.

Nahh, Vancouver wants players who can grow into the type of guys they are trading. Q, one of our highly touted D prospects and a high draft pick for Edler would be my guess (as they want an NHL player back that can help them now). Don't rip on me for god sakes, I'm just trying to speculate. There is a reason I'm an Engineering student and not an NHL GM :lol:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Man, I just don't see the need for Kesler at all. Especially with Weiss coming back, the Red Wings are deep at forward. I'm really opposed to giving up Nyquist, Tatar or Jurco in a deal.

brooklynsour likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Man, I just don't see the need for Kesler at all. Especially with Weiss coming back, the Red Wings are deep at forward. I'm really opposed to giving up Nyquist, Tatar or Jurco in a deal.

I'm okay with Kesler, I just don't think he'd wanna come here. I get the feeling he cannot stand Detroit. I'd rather Stewart if we get a forward.

Edit: But only if we land a top 4 dman as well, as that is the bigger need. A forward would be nice as to have someone to take Alfie's place going forward

Edited by marcaractac

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You can't seriously have read my last post and thought that what I said was "Pronger and Chara don't create offense". They do. But they're defense first defenseman who chipped in offense. But chipping in offense wasn't their main responsibility or concern. Compare that to Erik Karlsson...who is an offensive defenseman. If you still don't recognize the difference you're being intentionally obstinate.

I recognize the difference, but the numbers that Chara and Pronger put up offensively are much more then just chipping in. The offensive defenceman has changed, there won't be a pure offensive defenseman anymore; teams put too much of a premium on defense. Just look at Kronwall, he came up as a pure offensive d man, but has evolved into more of a defensive role.

My argument is that teams put an emphasis on defense which has changed the traditional offensive defenceman.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wait, so you REALLY don't see the difference between Pronger or Chara and Karlsson or Subban? You think they're all offensive defensemen? Really?

No I don't think that at all. But don't bring up Subban the guy is a complete tool.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm okay with Kesler, I just don't think he'd wanna come here. I get the feeling he cannot stand Detroit. I'd rather Stewart if we get a forward.

Edit: But only if we land a top 4 dman as well, as that is the bigger need. A forward would be nice as to have someone to take Alfie's place going forward

Love Kesler's toughness but no way he comes here. We have a better chance of landing the Sedins.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No I don't think that at all. But don't bring up Subban the guy is a complete tool.

This is an honest question...are you drunk right now?

brooklynsour likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Erik karlsson yandle Campbell subban maybe doughty, Markov, green, del zotto

I've been wanting Yandle for a couple years now but he makes too much sense for Holland to actually make it happen.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This is an honest question...are you drunk right now?

Disagreeing with you makes me drunk? Come on son. :)

If u tell me the 87 is in your name is for Crosby I'll understand everything and pas out

Seriously? I actually have nothing to say to that. This thread seems to be spinning out of control.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wow I feel like you're accidentally trying to make my points for me. PK Subban was benched on a stacked Team Canada. Tyler Myers didn't even get a try out for a less stacked Team USA. Why do you keep trying to compare Subban to Myers? Subban is clearly 2,000,000 times better than Myers. They're not even close to comparable.

Wow I feel like you're accidentally trying to make my points for me. PK Subban was benched on a stacked Team Canada. Tyler Myers didn't even get a try out for a less stacked Team USA. Why do you keep trying to compare Subban to Myers? Subban is clearly 2,000,000 times better than Myers. They're not even close to comparable.

My point is Subban was benched from team canada because he's a defensive liability , he just got benched last game in mtl for a costly turnover ....your saying myers constantly plays bad(the way your speaking you make it sound like you seen every sabres game)

And the only reason Subban made team canada is so people wouldn't complain about the Norris winner not being there ....Babcock wanted no part of him

brooklynsour likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My point is Subban was benched from team canada because he's a defensive liability , he just got benched last game in mtl for a costly turnover ....your saying myers constantly plays bad(the way your speaking you make it sound like you seen every sabres game)

And the only reason Subban made team canada is so people wouldn't complain about the Norris winner not being there ....Babcock wanted no part of him

When Myers scores as often as Subban people might be willing to overlook his glaring defensive lapses too. He doesn't, so they don't.

marcaractac and brooklynsour like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My point is Subban was benched from team canada because he's a defensive liability , he just got benched last game in mtl for a costly turnover ....your saying myers constantly plays bad(the way your speaking you make it sound like you seen every sabres game)

And the only reason Subban made team canada is so people wouldn't complain about the Norris winner not being there ....Babcock wanted no part of him

None of see really see how Subban being benched for Canada and Montreal has anything to do with Detroit going for Myers.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sorry sorry had to ask, ok enough with the different dmen lol

Does that mean we're moving on to offense now? Joking... Or am I?... No I'm joking, or...

It seems like a long day.

brooklynsour likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A 4 million cap hit would be a nightmare? For a solid, proven dman? I'll tell you what contract is a nightmare. It's the 5.5 mil cap hit that follows Tyler Myers that is absolutely untradable.

There will always be a bottom feeder willing to take a player like Erhoff to reach the cap floor if he were to not be effective 4 years down the road. Good luck getting someone to take on 5.5 mil for a 6'8 turnover machine

Bottom feeder team will take ehroff to reach the floor but not myers? Sure. ..... Myers just turned 24 ehroff is 31 ....myers upside is miles ahead of ehroff .... The way you talk about ehroff you'd think he was the next lidstrom .... He's a reliable 3-4 dman at best

In the end, Myers would be a HUGE risk. That isn't Holland's style, and I'm thankful for that. All these kids in the lineup we all love? We wouldn't have half of them if Holland made all the trades a lot of people here keep wanting.

Sure the potential reward for landing Myers would be big. Far too big a risk to take. Ehrhoff is the safe option. He is the kind of player who would fit in with this team well. The guy can put up 50 points a season, and when paired with the right person, hold his own in the defensive side of things. 4 million per year is very reasonable for what he would bring to the table. Especially when pretty well half of the salary for his contract has already been paid to him. He'd be a steal for this team, and make our back end a lot better going forward.

50 pts??

That's a far stretch

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Bottom feeder team will take ehroff to reach the floor but not myers? Sure. ..... Myers just turned 24 ehroff is 31 ....myers upside is miles ahead of ehroff .... The way you talk about ehroff you'd think he was the next lidstrom .... He's a reliable 3-4 dman at best

Exactly. Ehrhoff IS a reliable 3-4 dman, which is what this team needs!! Myers MIGHT be a legit top pairing guy some day. Then again, he might become nothing more than a bottom pairing dman with a 5.5 million dollar cap hit. If a team is gonna take on a contract to hit the cap floor, they are at least gonna want a veteran who can give them solid minutes and teach their young players a thing or two.

You act as if there is no risk in Myers, as if a trade automatically makes him the second coming of Jesus. Thankfully Holland is the GM, and not you.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'd guess Jarnkrok, Jurco and Nyquist would be the names for top prospects. For proven roster players your guess is as good as mine.

Tatar almquist athanasiou and a 1st for kesler is as much as I'd go .... Wouldn't touch any other of our top prospects or nyquist

Although kesler is a risk cause he gets hurt a lot so don't know if I'd do it

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Bottom feeder team will take ehroff to reach the floor but not myers? Sure. ..... Myers just turned 24 ehroff is 31 ....myers upside is miles ahead of ehroff .... The way you talk about ehroff you'd think he was the next lidstrom .... He's a reliable 3-4 dman at best

50 pts??

That's a far stretch

You say that as if he hasn't done it before.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Bottom feeder team will take ehroff to reach the floor but not myers? Sure. ..... Myers just turned 24 ehroff is 31 ....myers upside is miles ahead of ehroff .... The way you talk about ehroff you'd think he was the next lidstrom .... He's a reliable 3-4 dman at best

50 pts??

That's a far stretch

Nobody is saying Erhoff is Lidstrom. Enough hyperbole. All he's saying is that a proven Erhoff at 4 million is a better option than an unproven Myers at 5.5 million. You're welcome to disagree, but don't put words in his mouth. His argument is pretty easy to follow, even if you don't believe it.

Also, it's not too far fetched to think Erhoff could score 50 pts. considering he's already done it once in his career.

marcaractac likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm okay with Kesler, I just don't think he'd wanna come here. I get the feeling he cannot stand Detroit. I'd rather Stewart if we get a forward.

Edit: But only if we land a top 4 dman as well, as that is the bigger need. A forward would be nice as to have someone to take Alfie's place going forward

Where did you hear he doesn't wanna come here? He's from Michigan if anything I'd think he would wanna come here

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now