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46 minutes ago, 88Kaner said:

If the Lions pay Goff I'm done with them what a joke. Unless this guy wins the Super Bowl he has to go. How can you be so aggressive as a coach when you know your QB is a gutless rat. Aaron Glenn has to be fired why would you keep blitzing on 3rd down as if Dak and Ceedee didn't burn you on it already multiple times. The arrogance of this coaching staff combined with Goffs s***ty choices when everything isn't perfect has held this team back for 3 years now.

I agree Aaron Glen has to be fired. The defense has had games where they excel, but also where they are a total joke. Weakest spot of the team by far.

Goff is Goff. He's shattered any and all expectations. Being mad at him at this point is the same as being regarded, Regard.

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35 minutes ago, Troy McClure said:

I agree Aaron Glen has to be fired. The defense has had games where they excel, but also where they are a total joke. Weakest spot of the team by far.

Goff is Goff. He's shattered any and all expectations. Being mad at him at this point is the same as being regarded, Regard.

This team should've won 14 games this year, but Campbell refuses to kick field goals and Goff always folds under pressure. He won divisions and playoff games with the rams, how has he exceeded expectations. He is under achieving this offense is stacked he has everything he needs there is no excuse. Losing to shxtcago.. losing to greenbay at home.. losing to Geno smith... let him go steal money from someone else. 

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6 hours ago, 88Kaner said:

This team should've won 14 games this year, but Campbell refuses to kick field goals and Goff always folds under pressure. He won divisions and playoff games with the rams, how has he exceeded expectations. He is under achieving this offense is stacked he has everything he needs there is no excuse. Losing to shxtcago.. losing to greenbay at home.. losing to Geno smith... let him go steal money from someone else. 

#1 in passing yards
Top 3 in touchdowns
Top 3 completion percentage

From a guy that's supposed to be worse than Stafford and consistently not ranked as a top10 quarterback.

What're you talking about?

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2 hours ago, Troy McClure said:

#1 in passing yards
Top 3 in touchdowns
Top 3 completion percentage

From a guy that's supposed to be worse than Stafford and consistently not ranked as a top10 quarterback.

What're you talking about?

The same Stafford he switched teams with that won a Super Bowl his first year with the worst version of that Rams team. Goffs teams for the rams were better yet the guy couldn't score on an overrated pats defense that year. I know because I'm a Michigan fan so naturally I supported Brady the goat and I know damn well out of all his superbowls that was his easiest win. Goff put up a massive 3 points that game... what a stud.

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2 hours ago, Troy McClure said:

#1 in passing yards
Top 3 in touchdowns
Top 3 completion percentage

From a guy that's supposed to be worse than Stafford and consistently not ranked as a top10 quarterback.

What're you talking about?

He's got the best Oline in the league, budding stars at each skill position and in a year where Mahomes has no recievers, Burrow out, Rodgers out.. etc, Allen being Allen and where is Goff in the mvp discussion with these 'elite' numbers put up. He's not even top five, Ben Johnson just like Mcvay did is Making this guy look good by making everything perfect for him yet he still can't throw 40 tds. He's the most sheltered number one pick I've ever seen, He threw two picks last night that a guy in his what 7th or 8th season just shouldn't be throwing. Elite guys throw the ball away. The guys 6'4 but you wouldn't be able to tell he plays like he's 5'10 when he's under pressure in the pocket, He Hasn't improved its like Cam Newton said he's a game manager.

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6 hours ago, 88Kaner said:

The same Stafford he switched teams with that won a Super Bowl his first year with the worst version of that Rams team. Goffs teams for the rams were better yet the guy couldn't score on an overrated pats defense that year. I know because I'm a Michigan fan so naturally I supported Brady the goat and I know damn well out of all his superbowls that was his easiest win. Goff put up a massive 3 points that game... what a stud.

Stafford? Brady? Take your meds schizo

6 hours ago, 88Kaner said:

He's got the best Oline in the league, budding stars at each skill position and in a year where Mahomes has no recievers, Burrow out, Rodgers out.. etc, Allen being Allen and where is Goff in the mvp discussion with these 'elite' numbers put up. He's not even top five, Ben Johnson just like Mcvay did is Making this guy look good by making everything perfect for him yet he still can't throw 40 tds. He's the most sheltered number one pick I've ever seen, He threw two picks last night that a guy in his what 7th or 8th season just shouldn't be throwing. Elite guys throw the ball away. The guys 6'4 but you wouldn't be able to tell he plays like he's 5'10 when he's under pressure in the pocket, He Hasn't improved its like Cam Newton said he's a game manager.

Your point is that Goff is sheltered? Wow, did you also recently discover that the sky is blue?

Goff is mid as fuqq, everyone knows that. So we shelter him around better players. What you want out of a crappy shltered mid QB is exactly what Goff is giving us. You think he's gonna suddenly become peyton manning or some s*** becase the o-line and receivers are good lol?

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37 minutes ago, Troy McClure said:

Stafford? Brady? Take your meds schizo

Your point is that Goff is sheltered? Wow, did you also recently discover that the sky is blue?

Goff is mid as fuqq, everyone knows that. So we shelter him around better players. What you want out of a crappy shltered mid QB is exactly what Goff is giving us. You think he's gonna suddenly become peyton manning or some s*** becase the o-line and receivers are good lol?

no lol I just despise him so big but plays so small

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8 hours ago, Axl Foley said:

Brady is not the GOAT

IDK how you can look at his resume & come to this conclusion. Did you not see how many times he dragged inferior pats teams to the playoffs.. to the Superbowl? Winning most of them as well, don't tell me you think bill deserves the credit. He's been running that franchise into the ground since the 2010s and it really showed after he no longer had Brady to wipe his ass. 

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On 1/6/2024 at 8:16 PM, 88Kaner said:

IDK how you can look at his resume & come to this conclusion. Did you not see how many times he dragged inferior pats teams to the playoffs.. to the Superbowl? Winning most of them as well, don't tell me you think bill deserves the credit. He's been running that franchise into the ground since the 2010s and it really showed after he no longer had Brady to wipe his ass. 

Lesser QBs have won Super Bowls and better QBs have lost them. It's a team sport and the only QBs who benefitted more from the team around them than Tom Brady are Joe Montana and Troy Aikman.

Tom Brady would have never won a SB if you put him on just about any other team.

And the Pats suck now, not because they are without Brady, but because they have lesser talent overall. The Patriots still did pretty well in their prime with Matt Cassel as QB.

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1 hour ago, Axl Foley said:

Lesser QBs have won Super Bowls and better QBs have lost them. It's a team sport and the only QBs who benefitted more from the team around them than Tom Brady are Joe Montana and Troy Aikman.

Tom Brady would have never won a SB if you put him on just about any other team.

And the Pats suck now, not because they are without Brady, but because they have lesser talent overall. The Patriots still did pretty well in their prime with Matt Cassel as QB.

Dude go look at the patriots draft history they haven't had a stacked team since they lost those Superbowls to Eli yet Brady still won three more Lombardis stop it. Then he goes and takes the succaneers to the super bowl his first year in his early 40s and beats mahomes. He won 7 Superbowls in played in what 10 or 11 how you could think he wouldn't win on any other team is ridiculous he already did. He could've done it in Pittsburgh Baltimore Seattle.. if he played for Tomlin on those stacked Steelers teams he probably would've won more than 6 Superbowls. He's clearly a better coach than Bill dudes never even been under 500. 

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14 hours ago, 88Kaner said:

Dude go look at the patriots draft history they haven't had a stacked team since they lost those Superbowls to Eli yet Brady still won three more Lombardis stop it. Then he goes and takes the succaneers to the super bowl his first year in his early 40s and beats mahomes. He won 7 Superbowls in played in what 10 or 11 how you could think he wouldn't win on any other team is ridiculous he already did. He could've done it in Pittsburgh Baltimore Seattle.. if he played for Tomlin on those stacked Steelers teams he probably would've won more than 6 Superbowls. He's clearly a better coach than Bill dudes never even been under 500. 

Those are all good teams that won with other QBs. Arguing TB would have won with them doesnt make him better than those QBs.

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On 1/8/2024 at 1:51 PM, Axl Foley said:

Those are all good teams that won with other QBs. Arguing TB would have won with them doesnt make him better than those QBs.

Who's the goat then, no other QBs resume comes close. He won more with inferior rosters compared to those other teams but in your head it's somehow inconceivable lol.

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8 minutes ago, 88Kaner said:

Who's the goat then, no other QBs resume comes close. He won more with inferior rosters compared to those other teams but in your head it's somehow inconceivable lol.

inb4 "Peyton Manning"

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