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#2096936 Red Wings Tough Guy?

Posted by The Secret on 14 January 2011 - 09:25 AM

This made me laugh because it's true. I think Ruutu would be an interesting acquisition, but it would be well worth it seeing the thread responses and watching people's heads explode because the Wings picked up someone that isn't exactly "classy."


Chelios wasn't exactly known for his class when we picked him up... that was a tough pill to swallow for all, or at least most, at first. He had himself a pretty good career here in Detroit


#2074978 Daniel Larsson's comments on Osgood&Howard

Posted by The Secret on 09 December 2010 - 09:55 PM

Rolling the dice constitutes making a gamble that might get you ahead.

Insulting the goaltenders who are above you on the depth chart is not an example of rolling the dice. It is an example of an individual who is currently too immature and too petty to be respectful towards others in his organization.

At this point in time rolling the dice on MacDonald over Osgood might get you ahead. Rolling the dice on a young healthy and hungry swede with a big mouth and a desire to play and win would also be a bet that would get you ahead over a should be retired vet that "feels great out there" and "is going in the right direction" yet continues to fail when he gets his chance to show he still has it.

I'm beginning to think that you're just trolling.

How am I trolling? I've been a member here for years. Don't trolls join just for the sake of starting arguments with people then leave? Unless by trolling you mean not wearing your brand of rosey red coloured glasses and sharing the same boner for Osgood as you then yes, I am a troll.


#2074898 Daniel Larsson's comments on Osgood&Howard

Posted by The Secret on 09 December 2010 - 03:53 PM

Osgood has 3 rings. Two as a starter. A conn smythe run in 2009.

How does this help him and his s***ty play today?

Howard bailed his team out last season in his first year after being questioned whether he could hack it or not.

How big was his NHL resume at this point and what had he proven in the AHL up until then in his 4 years beside that he could be mediocre?

What has Larsson done to warrant his answers? Nothing. He is essentially a nobody going after his potential teammates (Osgood a potential goaltending coach) because he doesn't feel he needs to pay his dues.

Well he came to a new country to play a very different game and was giving the resident 4 year man a serious run for his money... not bad for a noob

He is selfish. Plain and simple.

Maybe true but so long as its not negatively affecting anything who cares if he is a little selfish?

Thankfully Holland doesn't share your "insight" and cares more about the team than the individual.


Amen... that is why i am here debating with you ying yangs and not making millions

Question: Would it be appropriate for a guy like Miller to complain about being scratched by saying that Draper is done? Do you think Babcock would appreciate those comments?

Would be very bold of Miller to say such things especially given the fact that they share the same locker room. Do I think Babcock would appreciate the comments? He'd probably ask for it to be seen on the ice and call him out to prove it


#2074875 Daniel Larsson's comments on Osgood&Howard

Posted by The Secret on 09 December 2010 - 03:13 PM

I'm busy counting how many time people have told you to wake up and realize what Larsson did was incredibly stupid. It's definitely been more than two.


What Avery does is incredibly stupid. What Hudler did leaving DRW for the KHL was incredibly stupid... Larsson answering his question imo was not incredibly stupid... could have been done with a little more tact but I can't say that I blame him for not wanting to spend the next 4 years toiling in the minors and I don't want to see another good player get away due to loyalty factor on player that is beyond his time... sometimes you have to gamble and this is another case that I'd roll the dice!


#2074863 Daniel Larsson's comments on Osgood&Howard

Posted by The Secret on 09 December 2010 - 02:52 PM

I'm busy counting how many times Larsson's name is on the Stanley Cup.


...want to have some more fun? Try counting how many times Osgood and all his past glory has s*** the bed the past 2 years.

Wait, nevermind. It was pointed out a few posts ago he had a good game against LA. Go Osgood!


#2074845 Daniel Larsson's comments on Osgood&Howard

Posted by The Secret on 09 December 2010 - 02:22 PM

Again, he handled the question terribly. It makes him come off like an arrogant pr**k.

Again, regardless of what YOU or he thinks of Osgood or Howard, you have to earn the right to disrespect somebody on a team like that. And he hasn't even played one millisecond in the NHL. He has no clue what it is like to go through the grind. Not like Howard has for 1 1/4 - 1 1/2 seasons, and definitely not like Osgood has for as long as his career.

There is confidence and cockiness, and there is being an arrogant pr**k. If this translation is accurate, Larsson is being an arrogant pr**k.

If you haven't played in this league or have very limited experience, you better know your place and respect people who have been through this league and know how to survive the grind, whether they are a superstar, fringe 4th liner, or backup goalie.

If I were Howard or Osgood or a teammmate and I hear a similar guy in the system saying stuff like this who hasn't been through the rigors, I'd punch his face out for being an idiot.


Pointing out the facts is not disrespectful if they are true... perhaps the time and place they are stated could lend to being disrespectful but he was asked during an interview and gave his opinion. Had he pulled an Avery I could agree but what was he supposed to do, Lie about the facts? What does he owe Osgood? Osgood's career was what it was but it also is what it is and what it is right now is denying a legit young player the chance to make his name. The kid was giving Howard a run for his money in the AHL coming to a new country and playing in a different style/team/ everything... How long was Howard already in the AHL at that time?


#2074834 Daniel Larsson's comments on Osgood&Howard

Posted by The Secret on 09 December 2010 - 02:02 PM

Regardless of what YOU or Larsson thinks of Osgood or whether somebody is close to retiring, you do not disrespect somebody who has been through the ringer plenty.

You have to earn the right to disrespect somebody on a team, and Larsson hasn't earned s**t yet. He hasn't even come close to an inkling of disrespecting Jimmy Howard, and Howard's only played 1 1/2 full seasons of hockey.


He was asked a question and gave an honest answer... Him pointing out the facts isn't any more disrespectful then Osgood pretending he can still play. This year is set but next year there needs to be a better duo in net and I think Larsson could provide that at a minimum and more potentially!


#2074826 Daniel Larsson's comments on Osgood&Howard

Posted by The Secret on 09 December 2010 - 01:29 PM

Up until a few days ago I would've jumped on ya since I've always believed in the fact that Ozzie still has some gas left in the tank - however since I've read miller76 post of Ozzie getting drunk at a watering hole in the Phoenix area a night before a game - I get the impression he may very well be collecting his paycheck, and doing what he needs to do to avoid sitting in the press box.

That said I'm now thinking Ozzie will retire after this season, and I'm all for someone else stepping up to the challenge of taking Howard's spot, or being his back-up.


I Missed that post... can you link me to it?

Osgood might have some thing left in the tank (although it has yet to be seen) but Larsson is filled to the rim with piss and vinegar and we need that more than an aging goaltender fighting to prove he still has a little something possibly. I want to see a healthy tug of war (like Hasek/Osgood had) not one guy getting worn out and the other "finding his rythm"


#2074815 Daniel Larsson's comments on Osgood&Howard

Posted by The Secret on 09 December 2010 - 12:56 PM

Like I said before: you don't bash the winningest goaltender in Detroit Red Wings history just because you believe he is done.

That isn't being eager, it's being selfish and stupid.


Well I might not do it and you might not do it but Larsson see's where he and the team can benefit and spoke his mind when asked about it. Keep in mind that something is always lost in translation... perhaps in Swedish it didn't come across as harsh?!


#2074809 Daniel Larsson's comments on Osgood&Howard

Posted by The Secret on 09 December 2010 - 12:42 PM

Sour grapes just a bit.

I'm all for confidence or cockiness saying that you are going to break somebody's win record or shutouts in a season, something along that lines, but to basically call out people as garbage who are still playing on that team and know what it takes to win and have established themselves successfully in the best of best in competition is beyond idiotic.


Osgood's success is in his past and what he's shown the recent few seasons is that he does not know or have what it takes to win anymore. Osgood always saying, "I feel great out there" and "I'm going in the right direction" while he is always losing is whats idiotic. An eager young goalie voicing his wanting to contribute now and pointing out the obvious (that he is better suited for Osgood's current job) is a tad cocky but he is wanting his chance. I say let Osgood retire and let the healthy competition between Howard and Larsson flourish as it will only make the both of them play harder and better. Howard having Osgood behind him barely able to handle the odd relief game is not going to serve as a motivating factor nor will it give him the breathers he requires.


#2074756 Daniel Larsson's comments on Osgood&Howard

Posted by The Secret on 09 December 2010 - 10:19 AM

I like his comments and he is 100% spot on... Osgood is done! I think they should give Larsson a shot next season as Howards backup to start and see if he can steal the show from him. So long as its a healthy competition and not in bad blood... do it! Right now Howard plays well enough and has to be over-played because Osgood is garbage. It's time to move on and why not let Larsson have his chance?!


#2068362 How Long has Huds got?

Posted by The Secret on 25 November 2010 - 09:03 AM

Trade Him....not Leino style. Hudler can play, he can (and will) be valuable on another team but his seat was taken when he opted to leave for more money... too bad, so sad. You leave the best org in Pro Sports for more money to come crying back and find you are no longer a good fit... Loser! I think they trade him but get something suitable in return not just trade him for the sake of trading him.


#2066092 Jiri Hudler Watch Thread

Posted by The Secret on 21 November 2010 - 01:49 AM

I don't find it strange at all, I find it selfish, especially when in Detroit it has mostly been team before individual. Could he have made more money signing with Tampa or Atlanta or wherever? Sure. But smart players have chosen to stay with a superior league team that has proven success versus higher salary options for the simple result of making more money elsewhere. Does Hudler think he is more important than players such as Draper, Maltby, Modano, Chelios, (and the list goes on), because of 1 years worth of production on a team laden with talent? Dumb decision by him to leave regardless. Especially since he hasn't produced as of late.

esteef

Bertuzzi was here, chose to leave for greener pastures, bounced around and was lucky enough to be brought back...he has something to offer that we currently need (skill, size and strength)... Hudler wasn't as lucky, especially to the team that brought him in an gave him his chance. To me when Hudler defected he was Filpula's equal/competitor... now Fil has a progressed and has a home and Hudler needs to prove himself all over again and hasn't done it...and more so has serious competition that has shown him up (Abbie, Cleary, Eaves, even Miller)


#2065944 Jiri Hudler Watch Thread

Posted by The Secret on 20 November 2010 - 06:35 PM

Yay, this rehashed argument again.


This is easily the best organization in pro hockey and possibly in all of pro sports. Players in "decline" or "too old" or even "not living up to expectation" are brought to Detroit, treated like family, given an achievable role and flourish. From this a level of Player/Organizational loyalty has developed to the point that players want to stay here, take less money to stay here and do well by staying here... Yes, this re-hashed argument again! Hudler is the rare exception that has chosen to leave for "greener pastures" only to find he just left paradise... he does not have a place here anymore. He has not yet shown why we should keep him and bring him back into the family. The Leino example is perfect... Leino wouldn't be the same player here and flourished elsewhere, like Primeau-donna did. Hudler might also and he might bring us something we can utilize! I'd risk it!


#2065902 Jiri Hudler Watch Thread

Posted by The Secret on 20 November 2010 - 02:44 PM

I've said it before... Hudler showed his true colours when he defected to the KHL and when he saw the grass was not greener came crawling back :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
I hope that loyalty is returned when he starts to play well and is then traded to some s***ty that won't ever make the playoffs.