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#2536614 Training Camp Thread

Posted by Crashnburnluder on 19 September 2014 - 03:12 PM

Sorry the Babcock quote makes zero sense to me.... "Tie goes to the best player" well then it isn't a tie is it.

People comparing it to the "tie goes to the vet" quote. That was completely different, saying if two players are just as good the vet gets it is way different then if the better guy is better then the better guy plays. That's just common sense lol

#2536600 Training Camp Thread

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 19 September 2014 - 12:11 PM


#2536575 Training Camp Thread

Posted by barabbas16 on 19 September 2014 - 09:34 AM

It's a good thing Khan put that "T." In front of "Bertuzzi"....otherwise people might have thought he was talking about Todd instead of Tyler.

#2536571 Training Camp Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 19 September 2014 - 09:17 AM

IF Alfredsson isn't ready to go, and it's looking more and more like he won't be, and IF Jurco starts the season in Detroit, I'd love to see our top two lines as...


Nyquist - Zetterberg - Franzen

Tatar - Datsyuk - Jurco




Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Jurco

Nyquist - Franzen - Tatar

#2536235 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp (Sept. 12-23)

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 15 September 2014 - 04:18 PM

I just got back from my trip to Traverse City and other parts of Michigan. I was able to catch the Prospects Tournament on Friday, but I didn't go on Saturday due to other plans (I got engaged). I strongly recommend attending the tournament. We planned our trip around seeing the Wings, and the game was one of the best parts of the trip. Below are some short impressions from the game. The play was a little sloppy- most of the players haven't played together- and players who hustled and were hard on the puck were most noticeable.


Mantha- Had two excellent goals. The first was a nice snipe, and the second was batted in from mid air. He seemed very composed, made few mistakes, and controlled the play well. He was the Wings' best forward, and I'm excited to see him in preseason. From what I saw he didn't look NHL ready, but he was also playing with new teammates.


Athanasiou- Dangerous. He has great speed and an excellent shot, and was exciting each time he touched the puck. He played a little recklessly, and was hit hard a few times throughout the game. The raw talent is there, and I am excited to see how he can put his shot, speed, and tenacity together. IMO he was more exciting to watch than Mantha.


Frk- Fast, hustles, and has a great work ethic. I am hoping he can continue to improve in GR this season.


Turgeon- Always seemed to be in the right place to make a play, offensively and defensively. We always noted his hustle and energy. I wasn't a big fan of the pick originally, but I am now convinced.


Bert- Much smaller than I expected, both in size and how he plays the game. He made a few bad plays, but managed to assist on the last goal in regulation. IMO he needs to get stronger to be a physical player at the NHL/AHL level. I expected a better game from him- hopefully I caught him on an off night.


Sproul- Solid play and a great shot to send the game to OT. I expected him to be the Wings' best D, and he was by far.


Hicketts- I was impressed. Solid play and scored the GWG in OT. Was very smart with the puck, always seemed to be in the right position, and made a few good checks. His size didn't seem to be an issue in the game, but will likely hinder him getting an NHL contract. IMO if he were 2-3 inches taller, the Wings would/should sign him.


Nedomlel- Formed a solid pairing with Hicketts. Used his size well and was positionally sound. He didn't hesitate to challenge a Blues player to a fight that boarded Athanasiou. I think he has the ability to be a McQuaid type player.


McNulty- Has all of the tools, but needs a lot of improvement. He had some great offensive rushes, and was able to use his size to physically dominate play in the corners and in front of the net. He made some bad decisions, and was benched in OT along with Wheaton.


Babcock- Scowling as usual, but I saw him smile during the first intermission.


Chelios- Looks like he's in shape and ready to play.

#2536145 Who should get cut/traded by game 1 of the season?

Posted by dirtydangles on 13 September 2014 - 01:02 PM

Glendening is very useful. He can be a 4th line RW  - Abby - Helm - Glendening ORRRRRRR he can play C and shut down Crosby like he did last year. We should hang onto him.

#2536141 Who should get cut/traded by game 1 of the season?

Posted by RyanBarnes! on 13 September 2014 - 12:30 PM

I would love to see Callahan steal Miller's spot. More grit and possibly also better scoring touch.

#2536135 Who should get cut/traded by game 1 of the season?

Posted by krsmith17 on 13 September 2014 - 06:55 AM

Some people are so damn impatient. I think a huge reason why I am patient with the way the Wings do things is because I am huge fan as the entire Red Wings organization. I am just as much a fan of the Griffins as I am the Wings. I watch 82 Wings games plus every playoff game every single year, I've watched about 90% of Griffins games the past few years and every single playoff game, as well as a scattered East Coast and Junior game to follow prospects down there as well.


I don't want to see Mantha or Jurco or Pulkkinen rushed into the league because I'm quite content watching them develop their game down in Grand Rapids. I'd be happier to see three of them down in the AHL getting huge minutes, playing in all situations, possibly finish the season in the top 10 in scoring while helping the Griffins win another Calder Cup, then see any of them on the 3rd line in the NHL, playing 10-15 minutes a night and no special teams...


I do believe some of these guys will be unbelievable in the next few years, and credit to the Wings organization for being patient with them and making sure they're good and ready before they're thrown into the best league in the world.


Be Patient! And Watch Them Develop!

#2536165 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp (Sept. 12-23)

Posted by martinezsvsu on 13 September 2014 - 06:24 PM

I hope Mantha can make the jump to nhl this year, excited to see this big kid in a Wings uniform playing with Datsyuk and Zetterberg!

with injuries i think we will get a look at him this year.

#2536160 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp (Sept. 12-23)

Posted by Dabura on 13 September 2014 - 04:28 PM

#2536096 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp (Sept. 12-23)

Posted by HockeytownRules19 on 12 September 2014 - 07:14 PM

Wings up 2-1 after 1... Outshot St. Louis 13-6

#2535916 Ericsson and Alfredsson not 100%

Posted by kliq on 11 September 2014 - 02:48 AM

Why doesn't Alfie do what Sundin did a few years back on the Canucks. Let your body rest for a few more months, spend the next 4 months getting healthy and spending time with your family, then in January if you are feeling 100% sign a 1 year deal. by that time, i'm sure someone on our team will have an injury and be on LTIR which will give us a much better picture of what we can sign him to.


I would much rather do that and sign him at 100%, then sign him now only to have him day-to-day a few weeks into the season because he is not fully healed. Its a win-win, we have no cap issues moving forward, we easily sign DD, Jurco starts off in the NHL, and Alfie can rest up. Better for us as well come playoff time, Alfie will have enough time to shake off the rust, but wont have to play 82 games which is better for his body.


Worst case scenario, come January he still feels hurt, its probably better we didn't sign him anyways, At that point, he can retire a Senator.


The only thin im not sure of, is can you do that in the new CBA? As far as I know he doesnt have to pass through waivers since he's not coming from the KHL (ie. Nabokov). I'm not 100% sure of the rules with the new CBA.

#2533455 2014-15 Grand Rapids Griffins

Posted by Jesusberg on 01 August 2014 - 12:38 PM

While some people are less than thrilled about the Red Wings' off-season, I think there should definitely be some optimism about the Griffins right now. The team is stacked, IMO. Leaves me wondering just where players fit in, and who will be going down to Toledo. I'm curious about what some of you think regarding the line combinations, and who will split time between GR and Toledo.

These would be some of my preferred lines:

Jurco-Miele-Pulkkinen (assuming Alfie signs)
Nosek-Nestrasil-Mantha (could swap Nosek-Nestrasil at center)

Hoggan-Porter-Callahan (chippy line, but could use a shooter, perhaps?)

Athanasiou-Ferraro-Campbell (great speed, Campbell brings size/grit)

As far as forwards go, I'm just not sure guys like Tvrdon and Frk will crack the line-up, hence why I have Campbell on that 4th line. If Frk could somehow outplay a few guys, I wouldn't mind him on that 3rd line, but I think GR's pretty deep on the right wing. I also wouldn't mind swapping Mantha with Callahan, at least until Mantha gets the hang of the pace in the AHL, but I can see people thinking that being "stuck" on a line with Hoggan and Porter might hinder his offense.

On the back end:

Ouellet-Paetsch (stable pairing, can eat minutes)
Evans-Sproul (Evans will balance Sproul out nicely)
Backman-Marchenko (seems like a very solid pairing - could work ahead of Evans-Sproul)

I almost wish they had one less veteran here, to allow for Jensen to be paired with one of them on the bottom pairing. I would love an Ouellet-Sproul, Backman-Marchenko top 4, but Evans and Paetsch don't allow for it. This is what I think will pan out on defense.

Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions?

#2535553 Lines Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 04 September 2014 - 11:36 AM

That's a matter of opinion and I disagree. I've been lobbying for years to put Helm on the wing, his speed will be much more of a threat along the boards then down the middle in my opinion. Sheahan definitely isn't a 4th line center, 3rd and hopefully 2nd in a couple years. Glendening is the exact type of player I would want on my 4th line.

#2535542 Lines Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 04 September 2014 - 09:26 AM

Absolutely. How do some of you not remember the assignments Glendening was given last season. As a rookie he matched up and was able to shut down the likes of the Crosby line and Bergeron line. He is a great shut down guy and every team needs these guys on their 4th line.