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#2510240 Poking the Bear

Posted by Shinzaki on Yesterday, 03:58 PM

Toughness in the playoffs is about winning the battles in the corner and limiting second shots off rebounds in front of the net.  Fighting isn't an issue....

#2510060 Poking the Bear

Posted by joesuffP on 16 April 2014 - 04:10 PM

Poking the bear and not having an enforcer ? Thats probably the stupidest thing one can do if the Wings are getting involved into the rough stuff this will become a blood bad. Only the Blues, Leafs, Flames ( Lucic wouldn't even look at his gloves with McGrattan in the lineup...)and maybe Kings can afford to go into the rough stuff with the big Bear but for sure not the Wings.


The only chance to get a win against this team is to keep the pedal on the gas by using the youths speed other than that the Bruins aren't having a weakness :(

enforcers don't play hockey in the playoffs. We won't have to fight just be tough in scrums and in front of the net

Smith has been awesome in scrums and sticking up for his teammates. Having him on the first pairing and abby on the first line it should keep the flies off datsyuk

#2510180 Playoff playlist - song recommendations

Posted by GoWings! on Yesterday, 11:09 AM

Slayer: Blood Red

#2509898 Best Hits from the Playoff Streak

Posted by nawein on 15 April 2014 - 07:28 PM

I miss Vladdy.

#2509895 Best Hits from the Playoff Streak

Posted by rick zombo on 15 April 2014 - 07:12 PM

I wonder how many of those hits were suspensions in today's NHL?

#2508430 Nyquist since Datsyuk's Return & Unnatural NHL Development

Posted by rick zombo on 10 April 2014 - 08:54 AM

Who knows that whack on the boards he got in the Sabre's game might have shook him up a bit more than then we know.  I have no worries about him its Franzen that needs to go the  AHL ride some buses and get back to mule mode. 


Not to derail this thread, but anyone bashing Mule's play hasn't been watching him. Yes he's snake-bitten but he's had a ton of chances and he's playing well, driving the net, going to the tough areas, etc.

#2508556 Play em or rest em?

Posted by wings_fanatic on 10 April 2014 - 09:54 PM

I'd play everyone tomorrow and then rest jimmy , Alfie and kronner the last game. That way jimmy doesn't get shelled, the two vets who need rest get it and pav plays cuz he needs to be at his maximum for the playoffs.

#2508593 Pens or Bruins

Posted by VM1138 on 11 April 2014 - 08:52 AM

All I know is that if we do end up losing, I'd rather lose to the Bruins. I just hate seeing Pittsburgh succeed with their diving, whining and knowing smirks.

But if we win, I'd much rather the Wings beat the Pens into the ice.

#2506207 Detroit says Weiss "Not Getting Better", likely done for year

Posted by DickieDunn on 05 April 2014 - 03:05 PM

Clarkson benefited from playing with 2 good guys on his line and in a system where the strategy was "bank it in off Clarkson."  He should have stayed in that system even though they weren't going to pay him as much.  


Weiss is a good hockey player who is dealing with an injury that can linger long term anyway, and that is complicated by the fact that it's in an area where hockey players use more than just about any other athlete.  It's no different than if a starting pitcher tears his rotator cuff or a running back tears an ACL.

#2504166 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by marcaractac on 31 March 2014 - 01:37 PM

It sure as hell is gonna me holland think twice about dealing a dare I yet say it again ... Top prospect if jarnkrok turns out to be a star in Nashville ... I can guarantee you that

And we got lucky nyquist didn't demand a trade or we could of been kicking ourselves , a lot of players in his shoes would of asked for one and he wouldn't of been wrong .... Wasn't Tatar threatening to leave? Well thankfully for us we wished up on that one and gave him a chance


It isn't gonna teach Holland a thing, as he literally almost never makes these kind of trades. It was a circumstance where he HAD to make a move for a center. You act as if he needs to be taught a lesson to never trade a kid again. Yet he is the most stingy GM in the league when it comes to trading prospects since the cap era. Look it up. You're acting as if trading away prospects is Holland's MO, when it is the complete opposite of that. 


Lucky Goose didn't ask for a trade? Please... Nyquist getting all that AHL time is the reason why he is finding so much success at the NHL level right now. It is why this team is able to develop prospects so well. It is why this franchise has been the envy of the league for a long time. Same goes with Tatar. He didn't threaten to leave, he said he wasn't going to play in the AHL anymore, which we all knew considering, you know, he was out of AHL options and had to be with the big club anyway. Goose and Tatar earned their way into the lineup. They weren't just handed their ice time. Jarnkrok didn't want to earn his ice time. He wanted it right away. That is why the kids we do have are thriving, and why Jarnkrok is gone.

#2504164 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 31 March 2014 - 01:27 PM


And people keep comparing jarnkrok to Matthias ....like I said I don't recall Matthias ever being a top 3 prospect that was praised about for years .... If I'm wrong I apologize in advance

I'm the one who brought up Matthias and you seem to have missed my point. I was not claiming he was a top pick. I said that the wings have kept their prospects and don't need to be taught to think twice about giving up a top prospect (as you have said). They have been quite stingy in giving up youth for quite some time. I used Matthias as an example for how long it's been since the wings have given up a prospect. The fact that Matthias was not a top 3 prospect just further shows that the Legwand trade was special circumstance. Management didn't just randomly make the trade. They know better than us how good Jarnkrok might be and felt the sacrifice was justified. 

#2504115 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by VM1138 on 31 March 2014 - 10:55 AM

You make it sound like legwand is a star ... Let's be honest over here ... Will he have a long nhl career ? Yes ... But for a first overall nhl pick he's a bust ... A bust in the sense that when you get a first overall nhl pick your expecting and hoping that player is a franchise player that will carry the team and be super dominant and he hasn't

Him being nashvilles best player of all time isn't saying much , that team has been good for many years in the back end but never had any good scoring threats upfront .... Again legwand is good but like I said before he's a perfect third line center in a very good team .... Low and behold he's on the 3rd line now and what's worse is our big guns haven't even returned yet

This is the whole stephen weiss crap again .... A lot of People gave me s*** here for saying Weiss was overrated from day 1 and yes it's still soon but so far we can say it's been a disaster

You can say whatever you want about jarnkrok being a future bottom 6 .... facts are we gave up on top 3 prospect for a soon to be 34 yr old ufa which is absolute nonsense ... I would of rather called him up and see what would of happened , I'm pretty sure he'd have more games with pts than legwand has so far seeing how he's done with nobody's in Nashville and seeing how he had experience playing with nyquist sheahan jurco dekeyser etc ...

He's gone now so all we can do is accept the trade and or vent about it .... I'm pissed but I accept that it's done ... I just want jarnkrok to continue and dominate so we think hard next time about giving up a top prospect in our system

We all have our own opinions and that's mine and it won't change



I'm really, really, really, really, really tired of people trashing Weiss.  Really tired of it.  Were you also one of the ones saying Colaiacovo sucked? People seem unable to separate injuries from quality of play.  Both Cola and Weiss are very good players.  But Cola was injured so he "sucked."  Not playing due to injuries does not equal sucking.  Because he's injured for a season, and played with the injury in a new system early in the year, some people want to say he sucks. At no time in Weiss' career has he sucked, or been overrated.  He's been overlooked for the most part.


Right now, he's an X-factor of sorts because we don't know when he's coming back or if he'll be 100% this season, but that's about all I think anyone can say about him right now.  If we look at his career the chances of him bouncing back look very good.


And Legwand is a solid top 6 guy.  Yes, on a stacked team it'd be best to place him on the third line.  In the sense that he'd be VERY dangerous there.  I think people are just not understanding that he's not a goal scorer. He's a playmaker.


In addition to all the panic about trading Jarnkrok, we're forgetting that we won't ever personally suffer from that trade.  He's on Nashville.  Even if he becomes a star, it's unlikely that team will ever truly be good, and we'll only have to worry about them in a potential Finals matchup, the odds of that happening are very slim.  So we miss out on a potentially good center.  Well, we can get one from Europe this summer (there's a guy over there who we're rumored to be looking into), or trade for another one if need be.  But I don't know if he'll be better than Weiss or Legwand for several years.  So it's not a bad trade.  Maybe a little overpayment but it was necessary to address the needs of the team, and it doesn't hurt us for a year or two, if ever.

#2504059 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 31 March 2014 - 12:31 AM

I hope Jarnkrok becomes a nobody for the simple fact that I don't want to read about this trade for the next 18 years of his career.

#2503558 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 30 March 2014 - 04:15 PM

He's gone now so all we can do is accept the trade and or vent about it .... I'm pissed but I accept that it's done ... I just want jarnkrok to continue and dominate so we think hard next time about giving up a top prospect in our system

We all have our own opinions and that's mine and it won't change

You keep saying this, but when was the last time the wings gave up a top prospect? Shawn Mattias for Bertuzzi? That was 7 years ago and the wings now keep picks and prospects. I honestly don't know how I feel about the trade - possible present gain for possible future sacrifice. But to claim that the Wings need to be taught a lesson about giving up prospects seems incongruous with management's recent history. 

#2505395 Nyquist goal scoring song

Posted by MaynardJmzKeenan on 02 April 2014 - 11:11 PM

I'd prefer F'n Hostile by Pantera but what do i know...