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#2683716 Hall of Fame Worthy

Posted by F.Michael on Yesterday, 11:29 PM

1 guy I always respected (although he was a Hawk) is Steve Larmer.


Highly unlikely he'll ever get in the HOF, but had an impressive career nonetheless. 

#2683669 Should any of #91, #13, #40, #30 be retired? Poll/Discussion

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 22 July 2016 - 06:46 PM

As was Fedorov. Lest we mention again, a Hart AND Selke in the same year. Which, btw, was a year that featured all of Gretzky, Lemieux and Messier. If he played D for an entire year, no doubt in hell he'd win a Norris. The ONLY reason his number may not get retired is a personal vendetta.

BTW, Gretzky Lemieux and Messier were not ever considered a Hart AND Selke winner, let alone the same year they were winning Hart trophies.


Not sure what your point is.  Bergeron is also better defensively than Gretzky or Lemieux.  When you're scoring 200 points in a season, nobody cares about Selke awards.  Not to mention, being a two-way center wasn't as important in the 80's.


What Fedorov did in 1994 was impressive and has only been approached by Datsyuk when he scored 95+ points in back to back seasons while winning the Selke.  But that point alone doesn't mean Ilitch should drop what he's doing and put him in the rafters.  


Like I and others mentioned, Fedorov leaving the way he did screwed him over.  Nobody is arguing about his skills or awards.  

#2683623 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by joesuffP on 22 July 2016 - 10:35 AM

Jurco scored 6 points last year

In the end Jurco will get dealt for peanuts and everyone will be livid for a week or two

#2680535 Shea Weber for Pernal Karl Subban

Posted by kickazz on 30 June 2016 - 09:31 AM

Side note...
I wonder what Subban thinks of his beloved Habs today?
Grew up in Toronto (can only imagine the jeers he got from Leaf fans), drafted by the Canadiens, and becomes a fan favorite...It all came crashing down...Sorta feel sorry for him.

I say... Welcome to the United States!

#2683578 Fans rank front offices....Wings 21st

Posted by kickazz on 21 July 2016 - 12:43 PM

Hahahah. That's true, the "we need to miss the playoffs for some changes" argument is definitely dumb. Failing isn't going to turn into success that easily. 


There's no way in hell do I as a fan want to see The Streak broken. I'd much rather keep making the playoffs and get better than not make the playoffs and think magically the 14th pick will be good enough to bring us a Stanley cup lol. And us missing the playoffs isn't going to change free agency. Nor is it going to convince another GM to take on Howards contract. Or Ericssons.


Playoff success is completely irrelevant to contract dumps and pickups or winning the cup. Unless we tanked and got first round pick. But that's the most extreme and stupid way going about things  with mostly uncertainty along the way. 

#2683496 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Dabura on 19 July 2016 - 05:30 PM

I have to believe this surplus of forwards is for a greater cause.



#2683346 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by marcaractac on 17 July 2016 - 11:20 AM

This team will need to be extremely lucky to make the playoffs. I have my doubts that they will unless something drastically changes. We have seen so far that Holland and co. are content with the same old same old - just make the playoffs, anything can happen!


To be fair this team needs a year of missing the playoffs for appropriate changes to be made. With the streak intact, it will be a whole lot of playing it safe to just try and make the playoffs every year. 

#2683275 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Dabura on 15 July 2016 - 04:12 PM

After the Streak ends or the record is broken, change will happen.


I doubt it.


"Y'know, we only missed the playoffs by a couple points. If we win one more shootout, we're probably in. And once you're in, you've got as good a chance as any other playoff team. At the end of the day, we're a team in transition. We like our team. I know there are people who want us to tank, but I've never bought into that kind of thinking. We're gonna keep doing what we've been doing. We're not going to blow everything up because we missed the playoffs by a couple points."


We'd have to miss the playoffs by a country mile. (And even then, I dunno.) If it's close, we stick with the status quo. Because Red Wings.


Our best/only hope: kids. More specifically, we need a new prime-years Datsyuk and a new prime-years Zetterberg. I think Larkin is (going to be) that good. I think Athanasiou has that kind of top-end potential. I think Mantha can grow into a new prime-years Franzen. I've always felt Mrazek has Vezina potential. I think Saarijarvi is an elite talent. But it's probably going to be several years before Holland and Blashill are willing to truly hand the keys over to the next generation. Because kids have to "earn it," or some such bulls***.

#2683252 Darren Helm re-signed: 5 years, $3.85m AAV

Posted by lwing on 15 July 2016 - 09:53 AM

You know when you are at a job interview, they always ask, "Where do you see yourself in five years?" I guess Holland takes care of answering that question for everyone on the team.

#2683153 Glendening signs 4-year, $1.8m AAV extension

Posted by Manny>Ozzie(by a long shot) on 14 July 2016 - 11:00 AM

Tyler Johnsons two goals in game 4 came after Glendenning left the game. We had a lead in the third period. We would have been up 3-1 in the series. After that the wings had no answer for him. Sorry, but I will draw the comparison. I know other already have.

#2683113 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by DickieDunn on 13 July 2016 - 10:57 PM

Zetterberg Larkin Nyquist
Vanek Nielsen Tatar
Helm Sheahan Abdelkader
Miller Glendening

Those are more or less locks to be regulars. Frk is this year's Pulk. Big AHL numbers, lacks things he needs to be a good NHL player, but will probably start with the team. Jurco probably gets the other 4th line spot, square peg in the round hole. Ott probably makes the team. That's the 14 forwards. Holland will stammer about how Mantha, AA, and maybe a couple other guys are good enough but won't play a top nine role because of numbers and trading is hard, like, really REALLY hard and you have to give up a good player to get anything of value back and he won't do that, so they'll be riding the bus in GR. The defense will be a fuster cluck, Jensen will be waived to much crying and clear, whoever loses out of Marchenko, XO, and Sproul will get claimed. A rumor will leak out that whoever gets lost on waivers threatened to go to Europe instead of GR and fans will cry about him for a year until everyone figures out he's nothing special anyway.

#2683097 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 13 July 2016 - 06:17 PM

Look who's #1! Seems like we should know his name from somewhere ...

Did all 20 Tampa Bay fans vote 9/10? :D

Pretty embarassing for Detroit btw. 

#2682991 Revisiting the 2011 Entry Draft

Posted by joesuffP on 12 July 2016 - 03:48 PM

Where exactly is all Jurco's potential? He really can't shoot the puck at all, not a great skater and has never shown any serious playmaking skills

If Jurco is going to turn it around and be an impact player he needs to use his strength. He ha size and can do everything moderately well. The only enormous untapped potential that our coaches have misused is not using him on the shootout to restock his YouTube highlights

Sure Jurco would benefit from playing with better line mates but that's the only thing it would benefit. He just hasn't been able to make plays for two years. Throw Nyquist or Tatar on that same fourth line and theirs a huge difference. Jurco has been bad anybody can see that

#2683056 Pulkkinen re-signs with a 1 year deal

Posted by TheXym on 13 July 2016 - 10:35 AM

Detroit Red Wings ‏@DetroitRedWings 3m3 minutes ago

UPDATE: The Detroit #RedWings today re-signed RW Teemu Pokémon to a one-year contract: http://redwn.gs/29RCxMX
Amazing tweet lol

Small European forwards.... Kenny just has to catch them all.

#2683071 Who should get A?

Posted by kickazz on 13 July 2016 - 11:36 AM

What if Larkin's dads dream was for his son to play for the Maple Leafs?


Then we scroood.