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#2514379 THN: Top 10 free agent flops - 2013/4 edition

Posted by GMRwings1983 on Yesterday, 01:36 PM

I just can't believe that Weiss will be injured forever. It's been so long he's got to recover. I'm not willing to give up on him yet. His cap hit hasn't hurt us yet, since we had so many injuries this year, and expect good things from him next year. I can't wait for a healthy roster next year. Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2


I've been waiting for 5 years, bud.   

#2514446 Valenti ripping Franzen a new one on 97.1

Posted by Playmaker on Yesterday, 06:29 PM

Screw 97.1 but not to beat a dead horse but Holland clearly should've opted for signing Hossa and not Franzen. Oh we'll I guess....

Yeah, and they should've drafted Jaromir Jagr over Keith Primeau.  It's been 5 years, time to move on.  Hindsight is always 20/20.

#2514415 Valenti ripping Franzen a new one on 97.1

Posted by T.Low on Yesterday, 04:18 PM

Wow. Red Wing playoff time and most of what I heard was about Ndomokan Suh. So sad for Detroit sports fans.

#2514399 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Buppy on Yesterday, 02:47 PM


I have mixed feelings about your post.  Sure, fans overreact when their team looks as bad as we have the last couple of games.  And obviously, the sky is not falling.  You're right, we've made the playoffs a whole bunch of times and in general we're lucky we never have to watch a bottom feeder. 

But you also make it seem like we should pat ourselves on the back for making the playoffs as if that's some victory in and of itself.  It would be...for the Lions.  But given that the Red Wings ALWAYS make it, there's some expectation that periodically they'll challenge for a Cup, or make it to the finals, or even make it to the conference finals...none of which we've done since 2009. 


If it's an overreaction to assume that everything about the team sucks and the Wings are terrible, its an equally bad under-reaction to assume that nothing is wrong with the team, and if not for a few less injuries we'd have been competing for Cups these last few years.  


I guess all I'm saying is that if you look at it objectively, there is some reason to worry that the team is trending in the wrong direction (e.g. barely making the playoffs, stinking up their first round series' against Nashville and now Boston, blowing 3-1 series leads, etc.)

We should pat ourselves on the back. Making the playoffs last season and even more so this season, is a victory. We should be proud of our playoff performance last year, even if we did "blow" a 3-1 lead. Even if we lose in 5 to the PT winners, a team that won a Cup a few years ago and went to the finals last year, it's nothing to be ashamed of.


Having some pride in what we've been able to accomplish during the beginning of our transition is not the same as assuming nothing is wrong with the team. Nothing lasts forever, and that includes being content with marginal achievements. Saying, "we did well this year, all things considered", is in no way, shape, or form a statement that we should never try or expect to improve.


You say "trending in the wrong direction", but by definition you have to go down before you can head back up. To suggest that we should already be getting back to the top is saying we never should have fallen in the first place, or at least that our floor should have been a top 7 overall finish and a 2nd round loss. The expectations most people have for this team are ridiculously unrealistic. We've barely even declined (at least relative to what "decline" means for the rest of the league), and by the look of our kids this year we may already be moving back up (at least in the short-term). It's actually pretty damn impressive, and it's a shame more people can't appreciate it.

#2514393 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by DSM on Yesterday, 02:27 PM

I'm on the fence regarding re-signing Legwand. I do firmly believe that without getting him at the deadline, this team wouldn't be playing right now. I know everyone is just incensed over losing Waynlle Jarnkretzky, but I think this team is showing right now that they'll be better off without another smallish forward on the team.


I do have to wonder if he'll test the market. Behind Stasny, the UFA market is extremely thin for top 6 capable centers. Legwand could stand to get a hefty offer from another team looking for a 2nd line center. I also for some reason don't think the whole "playing in his hometown" thing is factoring in much. In his first game here, they interviewed his Dad at the Joe who made it seem like playing here wasn't the biggest deal.


If you subtract the Red Wings UFA's and assume that all notable RFA's get re-signed, the team has 12 forwards and 6 dmen in the fold. If they re-sign Quincey, Legwand and Alfredsson, they go into the season with the same team that is getting out muscled by the Bruins and can't produce on the PP, except for the additions of a healthy Zetterberg, Weiss and Ericsson. Is that enough to make this team any better?

#2514372 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by kipwinger on Yesterday, 01:27 PM

Compliant Buyout Franzen.

Regular Buyout Tootoo.

Trade Stephen Weiss, 2014 2nd, and 2015 3rd round pick to St. Louis Blues for rights to RFA LW Patrik Berglund. Immediately sign him to a 4-year, $4.45M/yr contract.

Sign LW Tomas Vanek to 3-year, $9.00M/yr contract.

Sign D Dan Boyle to a 1-year, $6.00M contract.

Re-Sign C David Legwand to a 2-year, $4.50M/yr contract.

Re-Sign D Danny DeKeyser to a 3-year, $3.50M/yr contract.

Re-Sign G Jonas Gustavsson to a 1-year, $3.50M contract.

Re-Sign RFA LW Tomas Tatar to a 1-year, $950K contract.

Re-Sign RFA C Riley Sheahan to a 1-year, $950K contract.







So Gustavsson and Boyle move on/retire after next year.  Frees up money for re-signing Gustav Nyquist ($3.75M/yr for 3 years?), Tatar ($2.75M/yr for 4 years?), and Sheahan ($2.75M/yr for 4 years?).  The last two basically sacrifice their first year or two years of UFA for a big raise over their RFA years.  By the time Legwand is done with his contract, the team will have Mantha, Ouellett, and Sproul up.  Only thing the team would be missing is a #1 C for Datsyuk, depending on his health/ability/desire to play in NHL... Vanek would be 34 and the team could assess him then, too.


If I were David Legwand and I just got demoted to garbage minutes on the fourth line after I put up more points than anyone on the Red Wings team, waived my no-trade clause to come here in the first place, and centered the team's highest producing line of the year, I'd tell Ken Holland to go f*** himself if he called and asked me to re-sign with no raise. 

#2512911 Caption the photo

Posted by Nev on 21 April 2014 - 02:46 PM


#2511474 Lucic Spearing DeKeyser

Posted by Jericho613 on 19 April 2014 - 01:12 PM

Just knock his team out of the playoffs, that's revenge enough, then at the end when they shake hands, Danny can just spear him in the nuts and say have fun golfing loser. Now that's revenge.

#2511026 4/18 ECQF Game 1 GDT: Red Wings 1 @ Bruins 0. DET leads series 1-0

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 18 April 2014 - 08:26 PM

Lucic should be suspended

From the Mackinac Bridge by his testicles

#2510547 4/18 ECQF Game 1 GDT: Red Wings 1 @ Bruins 0. DET leads series 1-0

Posted by GoWings1905 on 18 April 2014 - 02:47 PM

It will probably change closer to game time, but I'm not nervous or anything about this series. Just looking forward to watching the Red Wings in the playoffs after a challenging regular season is a treat alone. Anything they do from this point on is just a bonus and the future is very bright regardless. 


That being said, I still want to win badly. It's a monumental task, though the Red Wings have been up for every obstacle thrown at them. Not sure they have enough to beat the Bruins four times, but they will absolutely be tough to eliminate. 


Let's Go Red Wings!  :stanley:

#2510240 Poking the Bear

Posted by Shinzaki on 17 April 2014 - 03:58 PM

Toughness in the playoffs is about winning the battles in the corner and limiting second shots off rebounds in front of the net.  Fighting isn't an issue....

#2510060 Poking the Bear

Posted by joesuffP on 16 April 2014 - 04:10 PM

Poking the bear and not having an enforcer ? Thats probably the stupidest thing one can do if the Wings are getting involved into the rough stuff this will become a blood bad. Only the Blues, Leafs, Flames ( Lucic wouldn't even look at his gloves with McGrattan in the lineup...)and maybe Kings can afford to go into the rough stuff with the big Bear but for sure not the Wings.


The only chance to get a win against this team is to keep the pedal on the gas by using the youths speed other than that the Bruins aren't having a weakness :(

enforcers don't play hockey in the playoffs. We won't have to fight just be tough in scrums and in front of the net

Smith has been awesome in scrums and sticking up for his teammates. Having him on the first pairing and abby on the first line it should keep the flies off datsyuk

#2510180 Playoff playlist - song recommendations

Posted by GoWings! on 17 April 2014 - 11:09 AM

Slayer: Blood Red

#2509898 Best Hits from the Playoff Streak

Posted by nawein on 15 April 2014 - 07:28 PM

I miss Vladdy.

#2509895 Best Hits from the Playoff Streak

Posted by rick zombo on 15 April 2014 - 07:12 PM

I wonder how many of those hits were suspensions in today's NHL?