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#2679475 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by joesuffP on 25 June 2016 - 02:06 PM

 
I'd happily miss out on Stamkos if we sign Boedker, Radulov and Okposo. Then all we need is to trade for a Centerman for line 1 or 2 and we're contenders.


Sign three guys and pay them more than what Stamkos could score on his own. I seriously don't understand not wanting a bonafide superstar on this team
Imagine thinking having Okoposo as the centerpiece to your offense will take you anywhere in the playoffs. Great complimentary scorer but the wings are trying to build a new core
Having a team full of 15-20 goal scorers is how you never score in the playoffs


#2679320 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by frankgrimes on 25 June 2016 - 01:57 AM

Told you ladies he might do this in the offseason thread a few hours prior. Kenny can still play. This is an excellent trade that opens up for all sorts of possible future trades.
It nags me though that we could have had Chychrun at pick #16. Guess you can't get everything in life.
 
Still, it's bigtime to loose that 6.5 million burden.

Well Arizona would have been with Svech or whatever his name is or AA too...both positions than wings are better at than at defense. This trades evaluation will depend on 2 things;

1. Can the Wings convince Stamkos to come here? Yes, the cap space is there but others can offer equal money and th ability to play with Eichel. This reminds me too much of the Suter Parise situation. Although I think Toronto would be the wrong choice for him.

2. Chychrun's development. A physical beast being compared to Scott Stevens falls into the Wings lap and they trade him. Did it ever occur to people that that is a reason, why the Coyotes where so eager to get this guy? The kid the Wings drafted is yet again undersized (wouldn't be a problem if this was a heavy team but it isn't), and known for questionable defensive abilities .. So I just hope Hakan saw something in him..because frankly most experts didn't.

A lot of people seem to think Stammer is a given which is far from the truth and if not him, then what? There is no other number 1 center available. Cap space is great if a team can use to get the best possible player otherwise use less. Back in the days I would've said oh great no bring in Stammer...but after getting passed over by Suter, Parise, Niskanen and with an unknown future Stammer to Detroit is far from a given...and I shudder at the thought of signing Eriksson, Vanek or anyone of that "caliber"


#2679333 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on 25 June 2016 - 08:03 AM



Been pondering the Stamkos situation. We would obviously love to have him and have the money stashed away if he can be swayed now.
With that said, I think it's highly unlikely that he'll join our team. Trying to see it from his perspective, what's most important? In rank, I believe:
 
*Money
*A chance to win the cup
*Acknowledgement from teammates, coaches and the fans
*A future legacy
 
Based on the teams that are actively going for him, we rank mid or low on these selling points. I see Tampa and Toronto clearly in the lead. It would have to take very special circumstances to sign him.
 
I am betting he will re-sign with Tampa.


Exactly that's why paying a premium (Chychrun), instead of one of AA or Svech (a position of strange), could turn out to be a huge mistake.

I think the most important thing is obviously money and every team that wants a realistic chance at him will have to go 11 plus.

I think from all the teams competing for his services Buffalo is offering the biggest chance to become a juggernaut in the future, Eichel, RoR and Ristolainen are already there.. Toronto has some pieces falling in place and the best coach in hockey but they also have tremendous pressure and media scrutiny.

The Wings can offer a guaranteed number 1 center spot and the ability to become the next captain...So the sales job from Holland and company needs to be a huge one.

With that being said maybe there is one team nobody thinks of that will ****** him.


#2679331 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Jacksoni on 25 June 2016 - 07:12 AM

Been pondering the Stamkos situation. We would obviously love to have him and have the money stashed away if he can be swayed now.

With that said, I think it's highly unlikely that he'll join our team. Trying to see it from his perspective, what's most important? In rank, I believe:

 

*Money

*A chance to win the cup

*Acknowledgement from teammates, coaches and the fans

*A future legacy

 

Based on the teams that are actively going for him, we rank mid or low on these selling points. I see Tampa and Toronto clearly in the lead. It would have to take very special circumstances to sign him.

 

I am betting he will re-sign with Tampa.




#2679288 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 24 June 2016 - 11:28 PM

Of the teams listed in "The Running" I believe only Detroit can guarantee him the #1 center and superstar position. This will be his team. Toronto will have Matthews, Buffalo has Eichel.

It's either take Tampas offer or come to Detroit IMO. unless he would rather be #2 or #3 on another team.

Toronto could offer him to be the captain. Something we can't/won't do. There's also the issue of him not being able to wear his own number possibly. And the issue of Buffalo/Toronto being nicer places than Detroit. But our suburbs are nicer, which is likely where he would live so who knows. 

 

Small factors but could be important factors in decision making. 

 

To be honest I would take a $1 million dollar pay cut per year if it meant I got to live in sunny Tampa. That's just me though, I like beaches and wearing shorts year round. 




#2679219 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by NerveDamage on 24 June 2016 - 09:09 PM

 

I'll take Mila Jovovich. You can keep waxed, oiled men.

go ahead and take a 14 year old girl who talks to spirits... Then you'll end up with gruff soapy men 




#2679211 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by achildr1 on 24 June 2016 - 09:02 PM

Honestly, this deal was great and it's hard to complain. I don't know anything about the kid we just picked but Chychrun seemed like the guy that could have reshaped the future of our defense. Maybe Holland thinks super highly of the kid we just picked but I cant help but think of what the Wings would look like in three years with a "Scott Stevens type" on our back end.




#2679197 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on 24 June 2016 - 08:53 PM

Agreed. Stamkos' likely next teams, in order:

1. Toronto
2. TB
3. Buffalo
4. Detroit

If what Dreger is true it's more like

1. Buffalo willing to go 12 aav
2. Toronto
3. Tampa Bay but the captain needs to up his offer
4. Wings and everyone else who is interested

But hey gotta pass on a much needed gift in order to draft another undersized pick no one ever heard of.


#2679193 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by F.Michael on 24 June 2016 - 08:52 PM

Agreed. Stamkos' likely next teams, in order:

1. Toronto
2. TB
3. Buffalo
4. Detroit

Yup...One could make a case that you could swap TB, and Buffalo...Anywho - I'm not gonna get my hopes up.




#2678904 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 24 June 2016 - 05:11 PM

Yup.

 

Another 'ho-hum' draft, and free agency.

If you're wrong you owe me gold before Legion comes out. 

 

:g:




#2678854 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Dominator2005 on 24 June 2016 - 02:20 PM

I can live without Helm. He's not top 6 forward and he should not be playing as a top 6 forward.


#2678644 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by NerveDamage on 22 June 2016 - 05:39 PM

That's not the eyeball test that's just the ball test :lol:

Totally different!

These Balls... Are making me testy!!!

 

*oops.. forgot you hate Seinfeld.




#2678507 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by DickieDunn on 21 June 2016 - 01:35 PM

 
It's also called the Detroit media. It's always, always, always, always the same line. "Ken Holland is trying to find a deal that makes sense for the organization, but every GM wants our top young talent. So his hands are tied. So you can't get mad at him. Being a GM is really hard. Sometimes the best trade is the one you don't make. Ken Holland has a hottt bod and dreamy eyes."

Holland used to know that most prospects don't pan out so it's OK to trade them. He's forgotten that.


#2678479 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 21 June 2016 - 11:10 AM

OK bishop is the real deal and they would of won the cup with him , vasilevsky sucks and stamkos is a top 3 forward in the league ... Got it

Did you know Dominic Hasek is considered one of the best goalies of all time (better than Patrick Roy). He won two Hart Trophies consecutively and 6 Vezinas, single handedly led the Czech to their first gold medal in the olympics but NEVER won a Stanley cup in all that time?

 

Did you know that he came to the Red Wings at an older age of 36 and FINALLY won a Stanley cup?

 

Bet ya didn't. I guess Hasek must have not been the real deal all those years until age 36 when he finally won with the Wings. The Wings we're idiots to acquire him.

 

Vasilevsky is no where the goalie Bishop is. 




#2678420 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 20 June 2016 - 08:42 PM

You're*


NOW WHO'S THE TRUE GENIUS?!?!?!!!

*headbangs*