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#2544764 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 27 October 2014 - 05:59 PM


Niskanen, like Frank said was offered more by Washington. Erhoff wanted more term which Holland wouldnt give (plus IMO he is hoping to have a career year in Pit and then cash in next year like Niskanen).


When you say players took less, this comes from a report by I believe Ansar Khan regarding the Boyle/NYR. While the Wings did reportedly offer more money in total, they offered less per year. (3 years/12.5million @ 4.16million per, opposed to 2 years/9 million @ 4.5million per. Plus, Boyle reportedly wanted to play with St. Louis again, and he thought NYR had a better chance at a cup this year. Though i'm sure if Holland threw at him 3 years at 15million Boyle would have taken it.....but he didnt. Robidas reportedly signed in TO because it puts him closer to family, but I never heard how much Holland offered him.


Holland did make offers, but I he didnt appear to throw insane amounts at these players like other teams did (again, ala Wsh/Orpik).


Wow, I didn't realize you and Barrie were so important to one another. No need to defend the guy so rigorously. He's a big boy. For the record, here's a collection of Barrie's posts regarding Holland's rebuild plan and signing UFA's.


"I'm still not really sure what Holland could have done since 2009 to make things any better. We're rebuilding through the draft. With the Cap, and how over inflated the UFA market is, it's the way to go. We haven't missed out on a thing by not signing guys like Ehrhoff, Clarkson, and Wisniewski, or Suter or Parise to 13 years."


"I guess I was in the huge minority this offseason thinking we had a very good hockey team. Holland, stayed away from overpaying for UFA's, and built a team with a lot of depth. I'm not surprised we're 4-1-2."


"No worries they'll sign. Holland doesn't sign over priced UFA's for this reason. There's more then enough cap room to sign Tatar and DeKeyser, then Nyquist and Smith next off season."

"I'll take Kenny, who's building the team with the draft, isn't signing any over priced UFA's, and actually knows how the cap works."

"I think it's obvious Holland is building through the draft, and won't overpay for UFA's. Teams that build through the draft win Championships, teams that sign over priced UFA's don't."


Barrie's entire premise is based upon the false notion that Holland has refused to "overpay" UFA's since 2009. But it isn't for a lack of trying. Holland has made big, competitive, sometimes overpayment offers (Suter & Parise) to numerous players that haven't signed. That isn't Holland refusing to overpay. That's players rejecting his offers.



Holland threw just as much money at players as other teams. Those players signed for less or for the same money elsewhere. Barrie is acting as if Holland didn't offer such money. That's my point. Because the players didn't sign here, Barrie claims that Holland didn't try to pay them.

#2544691 Rating the Defense through 6 games

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 26 October 2014 - 05:50 PM

DD has a big shot from the point, is a good skater, and is very responsible. He's fine on the PP. Too many people get stuck on labels like "He's a defensive defenseman" while ignoring what a player actually does on the ice.


I'm not suggesting Smith shouldn't get time on the PP also. Just stating that DD is competent and will improve with experience.

#2541762 Weiss

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 17 October 2014 - 05:24 PM

Still makes sense.
Kenny didn't want XO (Babs guy on the opening roster).
Babs respond with benching Weiss, Kenny's (guy) signature.

Holland and Babs aren't teenaged girls in a fight over a favorite lipstick. Good grief.

#2540362 10/11/14 GDT: Game 2 | Ducks 3 @ Red Wings 2

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 12 October 2014 - 07:05 PM

2 games and no Cleary or Weiss! Awesome!!!!!!


Still rooting against a guy the Wings have signed for YEARS for MILLIONS. Makes no sense.

#2539754 10/9 GDT : Bruins 1 at Red Wings 2.

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 10 October 2014 - 08:10 PM

Nice win to start the season. Best part was Cleary and Weiss were healthy scratches! Let the kids play! Good or bad they are our present and future.


Why in the heck would you root against Weiss? I would love for the guy who is signed to be the Wings' 2C for the next 4 (?) years to actually kick ass at his job.

#2539733 Devils Sign Tootoo

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 10 October 2014 - 01:28 PM


It's all the more humorous considering he sounds like Scooby Do.

#2539310 10/9 GDT : Bruins 1 at Red Wings 2.

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 09 October 2014 - 01:45 PM


Are you suggesting that you wife's bio-rhythms are attuned to the important dates in Henrik Zetterberg's life?


Why else do you think I married her?

#2539124 HELP!

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 08 October 2014 - 05:11 PM

You can order any name you want on a jersey/sweater like those dorks who have their own names put on them.

#2539102 Kindl on the block

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 08 October 2014 - 03:00 PM

Ok, this thread is 22.5 hours old. Why is Kindl still a Wing? ::headdesk::

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#2539091 How different things could have been

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 08 October 2014 - 02:03 PM

Geez - I feel like an old man here.


Don't feel bad. I remember trade rumors involving Yzerman for Lindros when Eric refused to play for the Nordiques. Yes, I'm THAT old.

#2538904 Kindl on the block

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 07 October 2014 - 04:54 PM

Who's Greg Brady?


Peter and Bobby's older brother. Groovy.

#2538710 Datsyuk to play Thursday? Weiss to be a healthy scratch?

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 07 October 2014 - 10:15 AM

I wasn't happy lol ... I don't think people should hope for weiss to fail but be prepared incase he does . He hit 60 pt plateau twice playing on on a Florida team where he got top line minutes and ppl time and nothing was ever expected of him

Prior to coming here he had 4 pts in 17 games with Florida and last year he had 4 in 26 here (injury or not)
Now Babcock isn't even suiting him up , you don't think if weiss was doing so good in pre season and practice Babcock wouldn't put him in the top 2 lines ?especially with datsyuk out?

I hope weiss wakes up and gets us a 60 pt season cause we really need it , I'm just not expecting it


Tatar was a healthy scratch for numerous games at the beginning of last season and look how he turned out.


Don't judge Weiss until he has played healthy for the Wings. He may succeed; he may fail. But it's too early to tell and speculating about Babcock's preseason mind games with any player is futile.

#2538335 10/4 Final Preseason GDT: Detroit Red Wings vs Boston Bruins

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 04 October 2014 - 05:02 PM

My goal for the Wings today is for them not to suck as hard as yesterday.


And no injuries.


Bah, others beat me to it.

#2537974 Are the wings underrated?

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 01 October 2014 - 08:40 PM

Mike Babcock is a good coach.  Evidence of that is 2003, 2008, and 2009.  Not 2014. 



#2537870 9/29 Exhibition GDT : Maple Leafs 0 at Red Wings 3

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 30 September 2014 - 08:59 PM

Bab's apparently thought Smith was the best defenseman last night.