I didn't see Howe play, so I cannot comment on him.
I suspect those who claim Lidstrom was the better Wing (and that's what this thread is titled--the better Wing not player) didn't see Yzerman carry this team on his back before Lidstrom arrived. Throughout the 80's, the Wings were Steve Yzerman and not much else.
Listening to Lidstrom speak last night, it's clear that he believes Steve is the greatest Wing of all time.
There's definitely half a pint of beer in the pint glass: wether it's half full or half empty is up to you.
I'm going with half full. A playoff season missed does not help Tatar, Nyquist, Sheahan, Andy, Weiss , Jurco, and Smith gain valuable playoff experience. Legwand helps us get by until the Calvary returns, then once the playoffs begin, as we saw last year, all bets are off. If healthy, we've actually got a damn good lineup.
Somehow, with no top 20 picks since 1991, our prospects managed to win the Calder Cup and produce the Butterfield winner . Jarnkrok is no Pulkkinen, and it's not like we don't have guys in the pipeline ahead and behind him.
Okay, again in the NHL over 50% of the teams make the playoffs.
To give you an idea how easy it is lets compare it to the NFL and MLB
In the MLB there are 30 teams, 8 make the playoffs. Percent of teams that make it any given year: 26%
In the NFL there are 32 teams, 12 teams make the playoffs. Percent of teams that make it any given year: 37.5
In the NHL has 30 teams, 16 make the playoffs. Percent of teams that make it any given year: 53%
Not really as big a deal compared to other leagues, now is it?
You're doing a lot of google research but missing the point. No team has ever made the playoffs for 30 years in a row, the NHL included. The Wings are 7 years away. Doesn't matter if "over 50% of the teams make the playoffs." It matters that no team has ever done it. No in any sport. Not in the history of the world.
Keep rooting for your team to lose, though, that's what true fans do.
Yeah, and you're pretty short sighted to not see that once the Blackhawks started to play the Wings seriously it was over. After game 4 the the Wings scored 5 goals in 3 games, it wasn't as close as people like to pretend it was.
Cute! I must have hit a nerve.
Did I say anything about the Hawks being the better team? Nope. They were and it played out that way. What I did say was that the Wings took them to a seven game series. It was exciting. It was fun. It was playoff hockey.
I'll take 14 thrilling postseason games over an earlier trip to the draft day podium every year.
Meanwhile, the Detroit Lions would be happy to have another "fan" who wants their team to lose in the hopes of acquiring a higher draft pick.
Again, people keep talking about a playoff streak in a league where more teams make the playoffs than miss it. It's really not that special. Want something special? Once the Wings can start challenging the Habs for number of cups I will be really impressed.
It isn't that special to YOU, maybe, but it is special to sports and to people who can objectively appreciate the historic nature of the record. No team in professional sports has made the playoffs for THREE DECADES straight. It's nigh impossible. Yet the Wings are closing in. I hope they break it.
And after they get bounced from the playoffs we get to hear Holland dust off the old gem of a speech 'well its important to get into the playoffs, anything can happen, had a bounce gone our way' etc etc etc. The realistic outcome of this trade is the Wings sold more of their future to keep a streak alive that is meaningless anyway.
I've brought this up a couple of times in other threads and received no response throughout the season. The playoff streak clearly is NOT "meaningless" to the Wings' brass.
Sure, some fans (younger ones, I suspect, who don't remember the last time the team missed the post season) are willing to dismiss the streak's significance with a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately mindset. "Why only make the playoffs to lose in 4-6 games? A high draft pick is more valuable long term."
How terribly shortsighted.
In failing to make the playoffs, the Wings would reset 22 years of chasing a 29-year-old record. Prospects come and go. Making the playoffs for thirty straight years doesn't. Doing so would be more than once in a lifetime. It would be once in the history of hockey.
Does this mean that I like the Legwand trade? Not particularly. But the Wings were in desperate need of a center while trying desperately to make the playoffs for a consecutive 23rd year.
I, for one, am glad they're trying to keep the streak alive. Breaking the longest playoff streak in pro sports would be a huge feather in the Wings' collective cap, one that every fan should wear with enormous pride.
Yea I'm pretty sure and hopefully Kesler doesn't come to red wings... We need to send Weiss/cleary and/ quincy for edler.... No way to give away Nyquist +others for kesler
Trading away Weiss before he has had a chance to play uninjured for the Wings just isn't going to happen. You can keep suggesting it every couple of pages, but rational people realize we haven't seen what the guy can really do in a Wings' sweater.