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#2509952 flyers sign macdonald to 6 year $30 million extension

Posted by Euro_Twins on 16 April 2014 - 05:09 AM

If you negotiate like that no player will re-sign. Every forward would be compared to Gretzky...
The market for defenders this year is at an all-time bad, Amac would have been on of the best available defenseman, his agent he and Holmer knew it. The Flyers prospect pool ie one of the worst in the league so they need to overpay for talent and this is far from a crazy contract. The cap keeps rising Timonen will be off the books.
Look I'm not trying to say this contract is great but it is indeed market value for a guy like Amac. Is Phaneuf worth 7 million per ? No he would have gotten that come July 1 it's as simple as that. I'm always trying to look at things from a player point of view they have a once in a lifetime chance to go to UFA if you want them to give that up, the GM better pays well a hockey career isn't that long and they need to cash in.

It doesn't matter which way you slice it. This is a bad contract, and like usual they'll regret it

#2493654 3/9 GDT: Red Wings at Rangers

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 09 March 2014 - 12:44 PM

Eddie Olczyk reminds me of Jerry "The King" Lawler on color commentary, circa mid 90's



#2490016 Official 2014 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by amato on 05 March 2014 - 11:39 AM

BREAKING: Ken Holland is at Meijer buying a new pair of boots. The old pair are worn out.



I'm hearing now that he was close to a deal but ultimately has been ruled out of the boots sweepstakes.. the price wasn't quite right.

#2489995 Official 2014 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Jersey Wing on 05 March 2014 - 11:30 AM

He's kicked the same tires so much they've popped.


HEY! You! Get off the lot before I call the cops!

#2488814 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on 03 March 2014 - 02:55 PM

With Z, Weiss and Pav out, if we expect to make the playoffs we need help up front as well as the back end. If Kenny sits on his hands this year, with cap space and assets aplenty, we could miss the dance. You can't go into games with your top 3 centers Andersson, Helm, Sheahan. Yes the injuries have been insane, react to those and make a positive move. Youth is great, but we have a ton of prospects and we all know which ones are the untouchables.

#2488524 Marty St. Louis wants out because The Captain hurt his feelings

Posted by kipwinger on 02 March 2014 - 10:34 AM

It was a committee of people. Yzerman had the final say, but it wasn't him sitting home in his man cave or Buffalo Wild Wings drafting a fantasy team. Babcock and everyone else had input too.


So it was the same process as all the other teams pretty much?  (except the Russians, lord knows how they pick their Team).


Regardless, can anyone really criticize Yzerman for his selections this year or in 2010? Two gold medals and I'm not sure, but aren't they also unbeaten in both Olympics as well?


They lost in 2010 to the US team in the prelims.

#2488522 Marty St. Louis wants out because The Captain hurt his feelings

Posted by DickieDunn on 02 March 2014 - 10:27 AM

Legit question here...when people say "Yzerman didn't pick the team by himself" do they mean that he had input from other people but had final say on the roster or was there something special about Team Canada's selection that took some selection power out of Yzerman's hands?

It was a committee of people. Yzerman had the final say, but it wasn't him sitting home in his man cave or Buffalo Wild Wings drafting a fantasy team. Babcock and everyone else had input too.

#2488421 Naming the New Arena

Posted by wings87 on 01 March 2014 - 08:15 PM

They should name it.

The house that Cleary Built.

#2483802 Zetterberg out with herniated disc

Posted by Playmaker on 14 February 2014 - 09:06 AM


Simply not true.  Franzen was concussed before the Olympics, and would still be out concussed in an NHL only no-Olympics season.  He didn't suffer another concussion when he came back for 1 game, he simply wasn't recovered from his initial concussion (only 3 days symptom free when the protocol is meant to be minimum 7).  He didn't rush back for the Olympics, he rushed back because we had no centers.


Datsyuk was injured before the Olympics and would still be injured without the Olympics.  He may be guilty of delaying surgery so as not to miss Sochi, but we won't know that for another 2 weeks.


Zetterberg has been plagued with his bad back for 3 months now.  He hasn't practised in forever.  He's clearly been playing through the pain for Detroit. He had it before the Olympics, and he would have had it without an Olympics.  MANY on here have speculated that it was only a matter of time before his back went again.  Unlucky for us it went after the Czech game.

All speculation on your part as well.   Nothing factual to back it up.  Datsyuk would not be playing with the Red Wings right now.  He's still be out with the injury.  It was clear to anyone who saw him play that he's not even close to being recovered.  He would still be sitting out if the season was ongoing, as well he should be.  Same with Zetterberg.  They were playing so they could go to the Olympics, not to help the Red Wings.

#2483635 Zetterberg out with herniated disc

Posted by LeftWinger on 13 February 2014 - 01:03 PM

Worse to miss their final chance at Olympic Gold? Worse than what, missing the rest of the Wings season? Screw the Olympics...



Thank GOD for no NHL in 2018!!!!

#2483621 Zetterberg out with herniated disc

Posted by LeftWinger on 13 February 2014 - 11:37 AM

No say it ain't so....:ninja:


Back is toast...he needs to take the entire tourney off in order to heal up enough to come play for who puts his food on the table...

#2478029 Babcock's comments on playing time

Posted by kipwinger on 28 January 2014 - 10:22 AM


Well, the blame is passed from one to the other in different circumstances.


It is on Babcock when he can pick and choose who he wants to play and he picks incorrectly.


It is on Holland when everyone is healthy, and we have to send down guys who make the team better because he kept signing a bunch of guys we didn't need. 


I agree with your point, however I'm not particularly interested in "blaming" anyone.  It's not therapeutic for me to point fingers.  The roster could have been managed better, and the coaching could be better, but immaterial right now.  We've got a team that could (and should) go on a run down the stretch.  There's no reason for this team to miss the playoffs.  Add a puck mover to the second pair (moving Smith to the third and Kindl off the team for good) and a scoring winger with some size and there's no reason we shouldn't compete for the Cup.


But to do so requires that tough decisions be made.  Moving the right combination of vets, prospects, young guys, and picks.  How deftly Holland does that will say a lot more about his talent than all the FA singings in the world.  Likewise, how well Babs can coach a young team that doesn't coach itself (like he's had since he joined the organization) will say a lot about his talent as well. 

#2478001 Babcock's comments on playing time

Posted by DickieDunn on 28 January 2014 - 01:52 AM


Abdelkader, Miller, Glendening and Eaves were literally our best defensive forwards playing last game.  It's not all about creating offensive chances.  It's about limiting defensive chances just as much.


Is that why Eaves blew his coverage on one of the goals?  And Abdelkader is average defensively.  Also, when you have the puck as much as the kid line did, you're being a lot more effective in keeping the other team off the board than you are chasing them around your end playing defense.


I'm not one of the people who thinks that anyone who doesn't score 20 goals is a waste of a roster space, but this isn't the Grind Line out there.  They shouldn't be taking that many shifts at even strength, especially not at the expense of the line that scored 2 of your goals and generated 11 of your 30 shots on goal.

Tatar has more points than Cleary and Bertuzzi combined.  Are we still talking about Babcock's comments?




Tie goes to the vet, and Cleary and Bert are thick guys.  They've gotten the cheese and are going hard, blah blah blah.


I've always defended Babcock, but come on coach, come up with some new cliches.

#2477996 Babcock's comments on playing time

Posted by esteef on 28 January 2014 - 01:15 AM

Yup could be earning the spot or spreading the scoring around or injuries or line matchups, or linemates and chemistry or stupid things he said to the press last year or he's struggling with his father's health/death.
Frankly I would believe any one of those before I believe Babcock would irrationally hate a player and possibly put that before his team.

Sorta like irrationally loving a player(s) and possibly putting that before his team?


#2477992 Babcock's comments on playing time

Posted by esteef on 27 January 2014 - 11:59 PM


Abby plays top line all the time.  Does that mean he's held in higher regard than Alfie?? No.  It's about roles and spreading out the scoring between three lines.


So is it making him earn his spot or spreading the scoring around?  I can't keep track.  All just the same Babcock media lip service.  Playing Bert and Cleary over Tatar was stupid from day one and that's been painfully apparent to everyone except Babcock for quite some time.