Posted by LeftWinger
on 21 October 2014 - 05:05 PM
...at least he isn't playing Cleary and sitting Weiss. That would be the telling point there! I hope baby steps are what we need for Weiss. If he could get that 50 point action going again, then that would be great! Lets hope we don't have another player that we keep saying "if he returns to form" with. I think its obvious that certain player is really struggling to re-become what he was in 08-09, and I hope the same doesn't happen to Weiss. We could really use him...
She needed to keep her yap shut and just be glad she's got a free ride at life. Yeah, I'm still a little sour about it.
No doubt! I mean, since he's the one making all the money she probably shouldn't have any say in their join decision making at all. It would probably be best if she could hold off having opinions or even talking as well. Better yet, she should probably just lock herself in a cage in the basement and only be allowed out when Ryan Suter says so. I mean, he makes money and she has "a free ride" so its not unreasonable to expect her to abdicate her say in their future plans for a life of domestic slavery.
I absolutely hate hearing, "they just need more experience, they'll be ready in a few years, growing pains." Absolute bulls***.
What about Krug? What about Hamilton? What about Riley Smith? How come they don't need "just a bit more experience". These guys have just as much experience as our young guys and absolutely destroyed them.
It's not experience, it's talent and our team has very little.
I think Babcock is guilty of coaching for the individual. He's so busy managing egos and delicate psyches they he sometimes makes bizarre decisions. Like Glendening taking crucial face-offs, or his coddling of other players. Which is fine sometimes. But in a crucial playoff game, screw building confidence and go with what will win.
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Holland's responsibility is to keep Detroit in the hunt. He's not going to stand pat and throw in the season towel just so we can horde B caliber prospects.
Jarnkrok is not "B caliber." Again, Can we stop acting like he's a nobody? He was arguably our best prospect, and we have a deep pool.
I agree with the rest, though.
Well, actually, you may be painting Holland as a wee bit more proactive and aggressive and on-top-of-things than he really is/was. It took losing Helm to concussion protocol - on top of major setbacks to Weiss and Datsyuk (on top of Zetterberg's 12-year rehab) - for him to do something. It's possible we don't lose Jarnkrok if Holland doesn't wait until the last minute. Poile knew he was dealing with a very desperate man.
I think we can all agree that trading is not one of Ken Holland's areas of expertise.
Yeah, but I think Doughty plays better when paired with a solid defensive type, like Vlasic in the Olympics. Even Kronwall makes mistakes, but I still think he's a bit more consistent than Doughty.
I wouldn't want Matt Greene though. He's a 3rd pairing guy and would get caught up in a glut of defenseman here (Smith, Kindl, Lashoff, Almquist, etc.) He's more solid defensively than any of our kids, but doesn't have enough upside to stay in the lineup IMO.
We need a true top 4 type to join Kronwall, Ericsson, and DeKeyser. Basically we need D-man much better than Quincey to take his spot. That should be the main priority as I think all the kids will essentially fight for the bottom 2 spots.
I agree about Doughty. When paired with a more defensive guy he's able to jump into plays and is a more dynamic player. Often when his production dips it's because he's without someone like Willie Mitchell to be paired with, so he has to play more conservatively.
All good points regarding Greene. I'm probably biased because I've always liked the way he plays. He's an old school "ram you facefirst into the glass over and over as you hold the puck along the boards" kind of player. The Wings could use more of that. Though Lashoff could potentially be a Matt Greene type player anyway. I keep forgetting he's only 23.
A more consistent Quincey-like player would make a big difference. Kindl is a plug at this point who only warrants icetime if there's injuries. Unfortunately he's a plug they signed until 2017, but I wish they'd cut bait with the guy and give his icetime to players that still have some hope of developing (Smith, Lashoff, Almquist).
Regarding Jarnkrok reportedly thinking of heading back to Sweden after this season, it was news to Wings Asst GM Ryan Martin.
Jarnkrok projects as a top-six center, and a good one. He's struggled, but hey, first-year NA pros are allowed to struggle. Andersson isn't going to be a top-six center, Sheahan will probably settle in as a good third-line center, and Helm is a third-line center. None of the centers in Grand Rapids project as top-sixers. Speaking of Sheahan, remember when he was supposed to be a career fourth-liner in the NHL? Remember when the DUI incident made us really wonder if he'd pan out? Remember when Tatar threatened to bolt for the KHL?