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#2491247 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Dabura on 05 March 2014 - 07:16 PM

Look, I'm happy that we got Legwand. But, IMHO, this whole thing with Jarnkrok smells...



Regarding Jarnkrok reportedly thinking of heading back to Sweden after this season, it was news to Wings Asst GM Ryan Martin.


Jarnkrok projects as a top-six center, and a good one. He's struggled, but hey, first-year NA pros are allowed to struggle. Andersson isn't going to be a top-six center, Sheahan will probably settle in as a good third-line center, and Helm is a third-line center. None of the centers in Grand Rapids project as top-sixers. Speaking of Sheahan, remember when he was supposed to be a career fourth-liner in the NHL? Remember when the DUI incident made us really wonder if he'd pan out? Remember when Tatar threatened to bolt for the KHL?



#2491182 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by nyqvististhefuture on 05 March 2014 - 06:28 PM

And if he busts and cant compete at the NHL level then what?? The Wings are still trying to win right now. This fan base would not accept anything else so they went with a proven commodity that can help them now as opposed to a commodity that only has a chance of winning. Legwand is a better hockey player right now than Jarnkrok. When your trying to win now which do you think helps the most? Your putting Jarnkrok on a pedestal that he hasnt earned yet.

Legwand is a mid 30s 3rd liner ufa ....you trade jarnkrok type prospects in blockbuster deals not in legwand type deals .... Habs gave up less than us and got a 30+ goal guy

#2491093 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by GoWings1905 on 05 March 2014 - 05:42 PM

Horrendous. Kenny has outdone the Kyle Quincey debacle somehow. I said it in numerous threads leading up to the deadline, but for once kicking tires and standing pat would have been prudent. Realistically, the Red Wings were at best going to sneak into the playoffs once Z was declared out for the regular season. Then you throw in Pav being gone now, Weiss having a setback and Helm injured again. You just don't overcome those losses and even if you do, is this group a real contender anyways? 


Nothing against Legwand, but what happened to no rentals? If Holland was looking for 'hockey deals' and willing to overpay with prospects and picks, then he should have actually acquired an impact player like Kesler or Ehrhoff. Legwand is an upgrade over Andersson logging first line minutes, but what's the goal here? Either embrace trying to improve fully or stick with what you have and play the season out. 


I just don't understand what Holland's intended direction is for the organization since Nick retired. The Red Wings are stuck in transitional years. Being mediocre is the worst spot to be, especially when it appears your philosophy is to rely more on drafting well. 


Panic move and went against everything Holland preached leading up to the deadline. He has been absolutely atrocious since Nick left with personnel decisions. 

#2491057 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Ekmanc on 05 March 2014 - 05:27 PM

As someone who has followed both Collberg and Järnkrok in the SHL as it's now called I can comfortably say that Järnkrok was a much better player in that league.


Järnkrok has a SHL championship as well.

#2490958 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by achildr1 on 05 March 2014 - 04:57 PM

Wow, really?  I think Sheahan is much better to be honest.  Then we have guys that haven't even made it to the AHL to consider that have a much better upside than him.

This is so short sighted. Actually Jarnkrok is out performing Sheahans rookie AHL year and he actually has an excuse (moving from the big ice) to have a rough transition. Just because Sheahan is on the big club doesnt mean he's better. Sheahan is likely a third line player long term. If were lucky, he's somewhere between Abby and Mule. Jarnkrok has always been billed as a poor mans Zetterberg and has been playing against men since he was 17.

#2490687 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by DannyD on 05 March 2014 - 03:53 PM

If it is in fact Jarnkrok I would've rather brought him up and played him in Detroit than trade for Legwand.

#2490683 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on 05 March 2014 - 03:53 PM

The Wings haven't released official details yet, the Nashville beat guys are speculating. Kenny wouldn't trade our only high end C in our system for a rental, at a deadline where the price for players was so low. But if he did, he needs to retire NOW

#2490111 Official 2014 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by dat's sick on 05 March 2014 - 12:39 PM

The Mike Weaver for a 5th and the Hemsky for a 3rd and 5th could have made this team MUCH better than we are now... Holland is smooching the pooch today. 

If you really think so you know very little about hockey. Not only could those 3rd and 5ths turn into players like Jurco, Tatar, Nyquist, Oullet, Sproul etc. , but Weaver and Hemsky would not fill any need we have on the team right now. 

#2489921 3/4 GDT: Red Wings at Devils

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on 05 March 2014 - 07:35 AM

Howard has 13 wins in March. It hasn't been completely his fault, and he's battled injuries. But that just isn't good enough, especially when you factor in his numbers. Really, if not for Gus, we'd be completely out of the race. With so many guys out of the line-up, Howard needs to be good every night. And his top pair (Kronwall-Ericsson) can't have albatross games out of the blue, points are too important.

#2489333 Luongo to Panthers

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 04 March 2014 - 05:01 PM

Roberto Luongo confirms he has been traded to Florida. Signing papers right now. #Tradecentre

14 years after they traded for him the first time around.


Is there an application I can fill out to become Vancouver's next GM?


If you can complete a basic job application you may very well be overqualified. 

#2443995 Monday 1 PM start time?

Posted by 55fan on 13 October 2013 - 03:33 PM

It's for me.


Gary and I were having lunch last summer and I mentioned that I work evenings and have to miss games.  He said that he'd like to put one in the afternoon for me, but that people wouldn't be home to see it.

I told him to have one on the 14th because it's Thanksgiving in Canada.  Once we established that Canada is a country north (mostly) of the US, and that they watch hockey there and spend money on the sport, he agreed that revenue was good, so the date was set.

I told him to be sure to have two Canadian teams, but he doesn't remember that the league has any since the only time that he pays attention is when being booed when giving the silvery thing that's taller than he is to a smelly man in shorts and long socks (at least that's the part that he sees).


I assured him that if he had to use two American teams for the game, that it would be ok since it's Columbus Day in the US.  Despite his obvious marketing talent, I managed to convince him that Columbus playing on Columbus Day would not mean that the league would get over 90% of the television market because Columbus (the team) sucks.


He was amazed to learn that Columbus Day was not named after the BJ's (a subject near and dear to his heart - or the organ that stands in for one in his case).


Upon learning that all school children in the US learn (erroneously) that Columbus discovered America, he thought that this man Columbus deserved a daytime game to commemorate his great feat.


It was a beautiful moment.  Bettman actually showed some emotion when he pondered what would have happened had Columbus not been the first person in America (see erroneous data above).  His heart broke at the thought of all of those buildings in New York that would be sitting empty since there were no people here before Columbus (see erroneous data above).  The loss of revenue floored him, and he declared that a daytime game was indeed proper and fitting.


So now you know.

#2440230 10/2 GDT : Sabres 1 at Red Wings 2

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 01 October 2013 - 04:36 PM


#2434756 Franzen: "I am not a goal scorer"

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 02 September 2013 - 10:18 PM


well i said 60 points cause you said a better player fora couple million more, but you never did show me that player


There probably isn't one, but you're also missing the point.


Franzen could be a lot better than 30 goals and 60 points.  With that kind of shot, that kind of frame and those kind of linemates, I'm going to channel Mickey Redmond when I say that Franzen should be on a scoring pace of 40 goals every season these last couple of years.  He should be hard to play against every game, which he never seems to be.    


You're basically admitting that he's an underachiever who's worth all he's paid.  So am I.  I'm just not happy about it, because he could be better (probably too late now that he's in his 30's).  The guy has talent, but doesn't play hard enough every game.  I can't excuse that just because he makes as much money as other 30 goal scorers around the league.  Those other guys around the league don't have his physical talents.  He's untapped potential.     



And that's why many posters here don't like him.  Nobody wants to see a guy scoring two goals one night, and then looking lost and disinterested the next 5 games.  Regardless of what he's paid and who else around the league makes what.  

#2434508 Teemu Selanne to return for a final season

Posted by TheDetroitRedWings on 30 August 2013 - 10:02 PM


Are you kidding me? How is he a diver let alone a whiner? 

The question is, are you kidding? He's been a diving whiner since his rookie season. And it's only gotten worse with age. Just so happens he is also a very talented goal scoring machine.

#2429607 Brunner Contract Talks

Posted by chances14 on 11 July 2013 - 06:02 PM

i heard that the new jersey devils are looking for some offense