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#2325533 Prospects Tournament Cancelled

Posted by Wingsfan72 on 16 August 2012 - 03:24 PM

This is getting scary...

#2317722 St. Louis Trades B.J. Crombeen to Tampa Bay

Posted by vladdy16 on 10 July 2012 - 12:49 PM

Nice to see some teams making deals to fill their needs...Holland? You awake? Franzine is expendable, especially when it comes to Ryan/Nash or Yandle...

You post this in every thread, yet you never explain how Holland is going to get someone to take Franzen's contract: 2012-13 $5,250,000 $5,250,000 $0 — $3,954,545 2013-14 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $0 — $3,954,545 2014-15 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $0 — $3,954,545 2015-16 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $0 — $3,954,545 2016-17 $3,500,000 $3,500,000 $0 — $3,954,545 2017-18 $2,000,000 $2,000,000 $0 — $3,954,545 2018-19 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 $0 — $3,954,545 2019-20 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 $0 —

You may be the engineer on the Franzen hate train, but you need to come up with a trade good enough to have someone take on this contract. Just because you want him gone doesn't mean it's feasible or even necessary.

*EDIT* I am completely derailing the thread. PM me if you'd like to discuss trading Franzen, or maybe start a thread about it.

As to the topic at hand: I think Stevie has done a fantastic job for the Lightening thus far. I questioned his Roloson signing, but it worked out better than I thought it might. All in all, I think this is a really good move for him.

#2232468 Need help deciphering autograph

Posted by JasonNewEra on 04 December 2011 - 03:32 AM

It's Slava Kozlov's autograph. Here is some proof for you. It's a really badly written one too.Attached File  Cards_BigCards_046298.jpg   9.5KB   64 downloads

#2182658 How Much Is Hudler Worth?

Posted by eva unit zero on 05 June 2011 - 12:09 AM

my hope is that Hudler and Eva will be traded for a Happy Meal.

You have a few thousand posts to contribute to this forum before you can start suggesting things like that.

#2046583 10/14 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Stars 4

Posted by drumnj on 14 October 2010 - 07:50 PM

Waiting for email confirm for Drum's site...
Anyone else have a stream url?

You'll get approved instantly (Gold, year joined and posts :)), same name?

#2029855 Top 10 Russians in NHL History

Posted by eva unit zero on 27 August 2010 - 11:19 PM

Yeah, well its late not in the mood for debate mode with 1 sentence posters but I can do the whole Eva stats thing if you want. Wouldn't matter. Don't feel like Khabi should be on the top 10 either but don't see Nabby as well. Not a big deal. What about Mikhail Shtalenkov? To me, Nabby has never carried a team to a Cup (and literally) and Khabi was a big part of the Tampa run and has had great seasons previous.

Hey, I consider players based on more than stats :P

I just think that a lot of players are either highly over-rated or under-rated compared to what the numbers say.

As far as the top ten Russian NHL players ever?

1. Sergei Fedorov. This is pretty clear. From early in his career (Hart trophy in fourth season at age 24) until his mid 30s, he was one of the league's top offensive centers. And for years beyond that he was still considered one of the league's elite centers. He was, for basically his entire career (finished second in Selke voting in 92 at age 22 and won in 94 at age 24) considered one of the league's elite defensive forwards, and one of the league's best two-way forwards. He was one of the league's best playmakers, and possessed a powerful and accurate shot, one of the most impressive combinations of those two elements I've ever seen. Fedorov was also incredibly versatile, capable of playing any position at a high level.

2. Alexander Ovechkin. While still very young, Ovechkin is deserving of this rank. I rank him as one of my ten best left wingers ever, and he is making a very strong case for inclusion in the top five. Even since his rookie year he has been one of the league's elite scorers, a powerful physical player and quick skater. While he could improve his defensive play, it is not the deficiency often seen from players with the kind of goal and point scoring abilities he has displayed.

3. Sergei Zubov. An excellent all-around defenseman who has performed at a high level since entering the league in 93-94, when he was a key member of the Rangers' Cup team as a rookie and again for Dallas in 1999, and continues to be a high level defenseman now. As has been said many times in the past, Zubov is the closest thing to a Russian Nicklas Lidstrom, as he plays a very similar style to Nick, is extremely consistent, and displays a high level of skill at both ends of the ice.

4. Pavel Bure. The "Russian Rocket" was the league's most feared goal scorer during his prime. He dominated games simply through his incredible skating and puckhandling. Beyond that, there was his amazing shot. The type and style of dominance Bure displayed was something only the very elite scorers were capable of. Bure had arguably the most accurate shot in the league, and he used it well, He was also a capable playmaker, although he rarely played with capable teammates, as while playing for the Panthers he broke the record for "highest percentage of own team's goals scored" meaning he scored a great quantity compared to his teammates. Bure was well known for his defensive deficiencies, but however seemed to ignore any suggestion to improve that part of his game.

5. Alexander Mogilny. The former Soviet linemate of Fedorov and Bure was not to be left behind when it came to blazing speed, either. Mogilny also had an impressive shot compared to the other two, but did not use it to the effect Bure did as he was a more highly skilled playmaker and tended more to that style. He was able to achieve the current Russian NHL record of 76 goals while playing the "scorer" role alongside Pat LaFontaine in 1992-93, but despite that he normally preferred the playmaker role. A better defensive player than Bure, Mogilny was considered an average defensive forward.

6. Pavel Datsyuk. He has won the past three Selke trophies as the league's top defensive forward, and has been one of the league's top offensive players for several years, although he did score considerably fewer points this past season than the previous four seasons. Datsyuk has been considered one of the league's elite centers and argued as one of, if not the best two-way center, as well as many considering him simply the best center. While he did start his career later than normal (his first NHL contract at age 23) he has done quite well in the NHL both offensively and defensively.

7. Nikolai Khabibulin. Khabibulin broke into the NHL with a Winnipeg Jets team with a talented young trio of forwards in Tkachuk/Zhamnov/Selanne, two solid veteran defensemen in Teppo Numminen and Darryl Shannon, and a declining semi-star goaltender in Tim Cheveldae. Cheveldae was acquired in a deadline deal the previous season and had been a huge improvement over the previous starter, who went the other way, Bob Essensa. But ultimately over the course of the season, Khabibulin took the starter's job from Cheveldae, the same as happened in Detroit the previous year when he lost it to Chris Osgood. In 95-96, Khabibulin would carry the still weak Winnipeg team all the way to the playoffs. Khabibulin would continue to spend his later years on teams with weak lineups until he came to a Tampa Bay team that, more by chance than anything else, managed to put together a championship-caliber team. He backstopped them to a Cup in 2004, but then came the NHL lockout and Khabibulin ended up going to the Chicago Blackhawks. We all know that story. Since then, he has moved to the Oilers and is again, like the beginning of his career, the backbone of a small-market Canadian team.

8. Evgeni Nabokov. He has been one of the league's top goaltenders for years, showing a high level of skill and consistency in his performance. He has been blamed for his team's failures in the postseason, but it is questionable as to how much of that was really his fault, and how much is simply following the standard "everything was the goalie's fault" so those criticisms must be taken with that in mind. He has posted the best statistics of any Russian goaltender in the NHL, although Ilya Bryzgalov likely will wipe that clean in the future.

9. Vyacheslav Kozlov. One of the most consistent scoring forwards over the past decade and a half, he has scored well regardless of playing with a top level linemate or not. Among offense-oriented forwards, Kozlov is also one of the few Russian forwards who has proven to be quite capable. While none of his skills can be considered "high end" Kozlov is a very good skater and playmaker, and has also proven himself quite capable of scoring goals as well.

10. Vladimir Konstantinov. While his career was cut to only six years, he played those six years at an extremely high level. He was among the league's top defensive defensemen, if not top defensemen, for all of them. As far as comparison to other Russian defensemen, Konstantinov is 12th in defense scoring, despite scoring relatively few points per season. The only defensemen who have played more NHL games than Konstantinov and played a high end defensive game were Zubov, Vladimir Malakhov, and Dmitri Yushkevich. Malakhov was a good two way defenseman but was not good enough offensively or overall to have had a better career; he actually had a worse PPG than Konstantinov. Yushkevich was one of the league's top defensive defensemen, but had no puck skills or skating ability while Konstantinov was perfectly capable of participating in an offensive rush. Sergei Gonchar is another defenseman who could be argued above Vladdie, but his lack of defensive and physical skills combined with his limited offense places him behind.

I have also selected ten players for Honorable Mention:

Ilya Kovalchuk
Alexei Kovalev
Evgeni Malkin
Alexei Yashin
Alexei Zhamnov

Sergei Gonchar
Viacheslav Fetisov
Vladimir Malakhov
Andrei Markov

Ilya Bryzgalov

The All-Time All-Russian Team:
First Team
F Sergei Fedorov
F Alexander Ovechkin
F Pavel Bure
D Sergei Zubov
D Vladimir Konstantinov
G Nikolai Khabibulin

Second Team
F Alexander Mogilny
F Pavel Datsyuk
F Vyacheslav Kozlov
D Sergei Gonchar
D Viacheslav Fetisov
G Evgeni Nabokov

#2002522 Scott Niedermayer retiring

Posted by WingsallTheway on 22 June 2010 - 12:17 PM

Their probably going to announce that he will announce his possible retirement in the future

#2001891 Nice little article on our 2010/11 lines...

Posted by plopster on 20 June 2010 - 09:41 PM

all player debates aside, here are my projections/hope for the lines next year. I may be wrong, but if they arent keeping lilja then i guess we put erricson in there but damn he sucked quite a bit last year. and dont even get started with the bertuzzi debate. hes a bum on offense and you all know it. yes he was good at keeping the team afloat with all the injuries last year, but he just isnt up to par on offense like the rest of the forwards on this list and you all know it. like some people on here said in the maltby thread, its time to stop being sentimental. he was a good fill in and thats it. end of story. you were grasping at straws last year saying he was great. he was turnover todd and you all know it.

zeterberg, datsyuk, holmstrom
hudler, fillpula, franzen
draper, helm, eaves,
miller, abdelkader, bertuzzi

lidstrom, kronwall
rafalski, stuart
lilja, kindl

#1991770 CBC's Hotstove: Lidstrom to determine future within 7 days

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 31 May 2010 - 12:47 PM

While I agree that I want a bit more change than Hudler for Williams, getting rid of Lidstrom is not the answer.

Say he asks for 7 million, which you would not want. What possible additions could we make that would actually be an upgrade for that money? If Lidstrom's gone, while that might mean change, it would be a change for the worse.

if lids retired, holland could then keep lebda and give him his much deserved pay day :lol:

who CAN the wings get if he leaves, while still being cap responsible?

volchenkov is reportedly gonna be thrown approx $5mil from the Caps. no way is he worth $5mil. i don't care how many shots he blocks. volchenkov = stuart, and lots of you guys for whatever reason want to hang stuart who was great last year with a horribly injured team.


realistically from the list in the link above, what good defenseman won't be re-signing with their current team?

anyone who thinks vancouver is letting mitchell walk isf****** nuts. and corvo's gonna rot in ottawa. tallinder's resigning with BUF. that doesn't leave much if lids retires. the wings would have to trade some prospects/picks to get a good solid top 4 dman.

with kronwall, stuart, rafalski, ericsson in the lineup, possibly lilja and kindl in the mix.
on the way up is brendan smith, gleason fournier and adam almqvist. kolosov and janik are also potential players that have value. even logan pyett isn't too bad.

the wings could keep a good core of those dmen and trade a couple of them to get a top 4 guy. they also have some pretty good forwards coming up (callahan, tatar, raedeke, nyqvist, ferraro, coetzee, nestrasil, andersson, ritola...) tell me for one second that with all the guys i mentioned that the wings can't pry a pretty good dman from a team and still have a good prospects crop at the end of the day.

i'd personally package tatar, mcgrath and kolosov and a pick or 2 and see what comes in return.

#1987322 Jimmy Howard has championship skills

Posted by Guest on 19 May 2010 - 05:52 PM

He's overrated and a not-so-good goalie, people just won't admit it, he wouldn't have a spot on any other team.

#1983877 Mike Babcock expects 70 points from Hudler

Posted by king_malice on 12 May 2010 - 01:06 PM

I wouldnt be shaocked if he put up 80pts, now playing on top 2 lines all season with top players. Not to mention the fact the he is probably going to want to make a point with everyone saying how he isnt as good as everyone makes him out to be and about him bailing on the Wings.

#1979650 Tomas Kopecky

Posted by FlintGangster on 07 May 2010 - 11:42 PM

Wow, that guy must really like Vanilla Ice. He must want to be his boyfriend. You wish you still had Kopecky.


You would have been so cool if you chose Snow Informer as your avatar. Choosing Vanilla Ice just shows a lack of creativity on your end. Long live Kopecky!!

#1969377 Octopus vs Shark

Posted by The Secret on 02 May 2010 - 09:44 AM

#1955062 Norris Finalists Announced

Posted by eva unit zero on 23 April 2010 - 03:49 PM

If you take off the Homer glasses guys its easy to see that Lids didn't really deserve to win or really get nominated. Its an award for best defenseman, Nick has been shakier then usual this year on the defensive end with almost no offensive output. Doughty and Keith are both deserving, not Green however. Nick simply isn't the best in the game anymore, its a changing of the guard.

I'm pretty sure its awarded to the best defenseman not best defensive defenseman. Noone has ever said defenseman aren't supposed to put up points too, just like forwards aren't supposed to just forecheck.

Yes, it's awarded to the best all-around defenseman. No, Lidstrom has not been as good this year as he was three or five years ago.

That doesn't mean he's not one of the three best defensemen in the league.

Duncan Keith deserves the Norris. He deserved to be a first teamer last year and he deserves the Norris this year. Drew Doughty deserves to be nominated as well. But Mike Green being nominated is a joke. An absolute joke.
Even just looking at offensive performance, his offensive performance was worse than last season despite the fact the other four members of the top unit were more productive offensively. The support cast of the Capitals was also better offensively, leading to a team that scored more goals than any team in fifteen years. A 50-goal increase by his team, and despite that his offensive performance was worse even as a key offensive cog on that team.

Lidstrom started the season poorly (mainly offensively, and that's why it was widely noticed). But he was playing as well as any defenseman in the league by mid November and from that point on. Unfortunately when a guy like Lidstrom is playing well, there are no "Lidstrom is doing really well, doesn't feel he is in a slump he has to break out of" articles that people who don't watch the Wings read.

Green is a good offensive defenseman. But seriously, I find it hard to say he's that much better, if better at all, than Brian Rafalski. Lidstrom over Green ten out of ten, Kronwall over Green ten out of ten. Swap Rafalski for Green and see what happens. A speedy defenseman with a hard, accurate shot? Rafalski would probably put up better numbers than Green does, given the fact Green is not as slick a playmaker and Rafalski would be even more deadly if feeding Ovechkin and Semin on the PP.

Keith, Lidstrom, Doughty, Weber, Boyle would have probably been my ballot. Others in consideration would have been Kronwall, Pronger, Kaberle, Pitkanen, Ehrhoff, Chara, and perhaps Streit and Bouwmeester.

#1955023 Norris Finalists Announced

Posted by Guest on 23 April 2010 - 02:36 PM

The general feel (not on this thread in general but the whole website) is that everyone still thinks Lids is the best in the game. While he is still good he just simply isn't the greatest anymore.

Lidstrom is not the best in the game anymore. If you think this then you=homer, pure and simple.